Thread 9 Starmer : Return to Westminster

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More Merry Wives of Windsor I would have thought.

Although given his recent drivellings, he clearly thinks Julius Caesar is his star turn.

Funnily enough I was gonna ask if it was the direction poster?! Think it's the same one???

https://news.sky.com/story/chancellor-rachel-reeves-to-change-public-finance-rules-to-borrow-more-for-investment-13240354

I think this might have been hinted at before, but Reeves is changing the fiscal rules.

Which presumably means the FT are going to have to adjust their budget game.

She is quite naive compared to the caps lock one

This has credible backing. Good.

I'm not sure it's available in St Petersburg yet...

I'm very disappointed in a Labour government here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn01ljdl07xo

The whole business of slavery - let alone reparations - is a complex brew.

I noticed recently a suggestion that European countries (which would include Britain) should seek recompense for the actions of the barbary slavers who regularly kidnapped people from Britain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_slave_trade#Britain_and_Ireland

Perhaps call it quits ? 🤔

I think that's whataboutery, tbf.

Maybe. Maybe not.

But it does rather support my opening comment about complexity. We both know that there will be a lot of people who didn't know that happened.

The person thought to be the last child of an enslaved person from the African died in 2022. The last person to die who was kept in slavery as a result of that trade died the year my father was born.

It's not as old a history as Starmer may rather clumsily have suggested.

You go ahead and send your money to former colonies. I won’t be

It's not my money.

If you read the article it's also not just about money.

But I'm glad I woke you on the thread to make that sweeping statement.

Well all these initiatives cost money and the money will come out of our pockets. Well done Rachel Reeves.

i do not think anyone should be surprised by this government’s position; presumably it is exactly the same as former government for each the same reasons.

There was an interesting interview on R4 about this this morning. About 8ish (just after).

Some good points made for both sides of the argument

No, different one.

https://x.com/BestForBritain/status/1849521499473904027

OUCH. Review of Rachel Reeve's fiscal rule change, by fmr IMF economist Mohamed El-Erian

Jeremy Hunt, look away now.

• Better than current rule
• Most economists back
• Not automatic interest rate rise, in fact may lower them
• Markets not fussed

- Tories left a horror show

The original fiscal rules were stupid. Pretty sure we’d already learned through practice you can’t austerity yourself out of an issue you have to invest out of it.

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The new rules on MPs second jobs come into force tomorrow.

Could get interesting

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You'd better start a thread on that Bob

Zonder, step away

Thanks - I have now 😊