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Thread 28 Sunak : Lords, Ladies and Lame Ducks

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DuncinToffee · 20/07/2023 13:59

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4835909-thread-27-sunak-the-ship-is-sinking-hold-your-nerve?page=1

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MrTiddlesTheCat · 11/08/2023 13:46

So the barge is now being evacuated. Another government success story.

Notonthestairs · 11/08/2023 13:46

Not only is it inhumane but people have already died.

I think the Government rushed the Bibby Stockholm fitting to coincide with their Stop the Boats campaign - also inhumane.

pointythings · 11/08/2023 15:05

I would actually not be surprised if it turned out that the government knew about the legionella, or had skimped on checks, and moved people onto the variety anyway.

MrTiddlesTheCat · 11/08/2023 15:25

pointythings · 11/08/2023 15:05

I would actually not be surprised if it turned out that the government knew about the legionella, or had skimped on checks, and moved people onto the variety anyway.

That's what the media now need to be asking. When was the testing done? As opposed to, when were we informed. If the testing was done before people were moved there, then there needs to be prosecutions for endagering those people. If the testing wasn't done, why wasn't it done? And there needs to be prosecutions for endangering those people.

You'd expect the BBC to be all over this seeing as when they failed to ensure a safe water system in their building leading to a legionnaires outbreak, they got prosecuted.

itsgettingweird · 11/08/2023 15:31

mibbelucieachwell · 11/08/2023 12:53

So, now we're getting regular updates on the number of boats detected in the channel and the number of new migrants. Confused

The reporting of daily number of positive covid tests and deaths from covid with no context succeeded in frightening the public . So now they're trying it with migrant numbers.

I'd love someone from media who is interviewing to mention they now mention daily updates.

Then ask them that considering they've now got 2 RAF sites and a barge they are moving migrants to for processing as a deterrent - can you explain why you are reporting increased number of crossings.

My bet is the change of tune from deterrent to cost is because it hasn't stopped the boats!

Piggywaspushed · 11/08/2023 15:52

Just had Labour at my door. Nice lady. Discussed tactical voting. About time they did some proper campaigning round here.

She did say they had encountered lots of aggression today...more than anywhere else in Nadland. Not surprised and not proud.

Notonthestairs · 11/08/2023 16:33

BBC reporting that the testing was done before asylum seekers were moved on to the barge but before the results came back.

They rushed it because they wanted the photo opportunities.

IClaudine · 11/08/2023 16:35

Notonthestairs · 11/08/2023 16:33

BBC reporting that the testing was done before asylum seekers were moved on to the barge but before the results came back.

They rushed it because they wanted the photo opportunities.

They really are lower than a snake's belly (with apologies to snakes and their bellies).

Notonthestairs · 11/08/2023 16:38

Piggywaspushed · 11/08/2023 15:52

Just had Labour at my door. Nice lady. Discussed tactical voting. About time they did some proper campaigning round here.

She did say they had encountered lots of aggression today...more than anywhere else in Nadland. Not surprised and not proud.

I do feel for the activists of any party. We are a pretty angry country at the moment.

But is it any wonder when you look at this chart from John Burn- Murdoch in the FT -

Thread 28 Sunak : Lords, Ladies and Lame Ducks
DuncinToffee · 11/08/2023 16:40

So much for the 2019 flag ship 'levelling up'

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DuncinToffee · 11/08/2023 16:44
Shock

https://twitter.com/edwinhayward/status/1690011129081131008?t=9XGa-NLS5fx__3sHjG3aQQ&s=19

Breaking down the recent installments in the Bibby Stockholm performative cruelty farce

(Long. Sorry. Please expand tweet.)

6 August

Internal documents warn of the danger that "large numbers" could be affected by disease outbreaks on the Bibby Stockholm.
theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/a…

7 August

First 15 asylum seekers arrive on Bibby Stockholm.
theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/a…

8 August

Lee Anderson tells the Express: "If they don't like barges then they should f* off back to France."
express.co.uk/news/politics/…

More asylum seekers are brought on board the barge.
news.sky.com/story/bibby-st…

Justice Secretary defends Lee Anderson saying that asylum seekers should "F* off back to France" if they refuse to be housed on the barge.
thetimes.co.uk/article/bibby-…

Home Office tries to put disabled asylum seekers and torture victims on barge, only to be thwarted by legal challenge.
independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-n…

9 August

Tories threaten to withdraw all government support from any asylum seeker who refuses to go to the Bibby Stockholm.
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan…

10 August

Tories disregard health advice about the dangers of allowing a TB sufferer on board the barge.
inews.co.uk/news/home-offi…

755 people cross the Channel in one day, more than twice the total occupancy of the Bibby Stockholm once it's crammed like a sardine can.
theguardian.com/politics/live/…

Local legal challenge launched against Bibby Stockholm presence.
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan…

11 August

Potentially fatal Legionella bacteria found on the Bibby Stockholm. All 39 asylum seekers removed.
news.sky.com/story/asylum-s…

And there you have it. Not even a week's worth, folks.

(We haven't even begun to touch on all the other ridiculousness, from the multiple fire warnings to the truly insane cost of this exercise in delivering a very public beating to some of the most vulnerable people imaginable.)

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Anxioys · 11/08/2023 16:48

DuncinToffee · 11/08/2023 16:40

So much for the 2019 flag ship 'levelling up'

That was of course designed to fool people but when was the last time anyone saw a Conservative government spend lots of public money to assist those at the bottom of society?

The answer is never.

DuncinToffee · 11/08/2023 16:53

Piggywaspushed · 11/08/2023 15:52

Just had Labour at my door. Nice lady. Discussed tactical voting. About time they did some proper campaigning round here.

She did say they had encountered lots of aggression today...more than anywhere else in Nadland. Not surprised and not proud.

This might anger even more

NEW: Nadine Dorries has NOT breached the MPs' Code of Conduct by failing to turn up to Parliament in over a year, the Standards Commissioner has ruled
https://twitter.com/josiahmortimer/status/1689998556160024576?t=VLjyZj4ceIXf92bQYgmTpQ&s=19

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Notonthestairs · 11/08/2023 16:56

Quite.

I genuinely found that graph shocking.

I'd listen to any party that could string a sensible, workable, probably long term policy together that could offer solutions to this. But it would take more than a 5 year term - & I think it should be a cross party commitment.
No idea how anyone could make that happen though.

Notonthestairs · 11/08/2023 16:57

Sorry - took so long typing I missed posts!

Piggywaspushed · 11/08/2023 16:59

DuncinToffee · 11/08/2023 16:53

This might anger even more

NEW: Nadine Dorries has NOT breached the MPs' Code of Conduct by failing to turn up to Parliament in over a year, the Standards Commissioner has ruled
https://twitter.com/josiahmortimer/status/1689998556160024576?t=VLjyZj4ceIXf92bQYgmTpQ&s=19

Angers me , certainly. Most constituents are angry at her, though, rather than specifically her party.

Notonthestairs · 11/08/2023 17:00

In what world is it fine not to turn up for work for a year? Absolute madness and a sign the rules aren't fit for purpose.

RafaistheKingofClay · 11/08/2023 17:22

Assuming that nobody has actually contracted legionnaires disease, having to evacuate it in a week because of another fuck up is pretty funny.

There’s literally nothing that goes right for Rishi’s government. He’s got the opposite of the Midas touch.

RafaistheKingofClay · 11/08/2023 18:25

STOP THE BOATS!

No, not that boat.

itsgettingweird · 11/08/2023 18:35

Apparently the tests were carried out before they started putting people on the boats but they hadn't had the results back then.

So now they are paying for

Housing those asylum seekers in the boat
To fix the legionnaires problem
To house the asylum seekers in alternative accommodation.

The party of fiscal responsibility ladies and gentleman 🙄

DuncinToffee · 11/08/2023 19:21

The Mirror reports

Home Office was informed about discovery of Legionella on Wednesday evening

It continued to move six further migrants onto barge on Thursday

Following UK Health Security Agency advice these were taken off that evening, before everyone removed today

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itsgettingweird · 11/08/2023 19:24

Well at least they can finally claim success - they've stopped a boat Grin

Notonthestairs · 11/08/2023 19:28

DuncinToffee · 11/08/2023 19:21

The Mirror reports

Home Office was informed about discovery of Legionella on Wednesday evening

It continued to move six further migrants onto barge on Thursday

Following UK Health Security Agency advice these were taken off that evening, before everyone removed today

FFS.

jgw1 · 11/08/2023 19:42

Notonthestairs · 11/08/2023 16:38

I do feel for the activists of any party. We are a pretty angry country at the moment.

But is it any wonder when you look at this chart from John Burn- Murdoch in the FT -

Posters on some threads seem to get very upset when I point out that the problems in the Uk are down to inequality not migrants.

MrTiddlesTheCat · 11/08/2023 19:48

DuncinToffee · 11/08/2023 19:21

The Mirror reports

Home Office was informed about discovery of Legionella on Wednesday evening

It continued to move six further migrants onto barge on Thursday

Following UK Health Security Agency advice these were taken off that evening, before everyone removed today

So they negligently and knowingly put people's lives in danger. They are truely fucking evil.