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Ghislaine Maxwell Trial

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orangepeelsz · 01/12/2021 18:35

Is there a thread anywhere regarding the ghislaine maxwell trial? I've searched and can't find one anywhere

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colouringindoors · 03/12/2021 09:52

Thanks Rousette interesting Twitter read...

DuncinToffee · 03/12/2021 09:55

This is also a good twitter thread

AdamKlasfeld@KlasfeldReports

Or via their website
lawandcrime.com/live-trials/ghislaine-maxwell/she-looked-young-jeffrey-epsteins-former-house-manager-backs-up-testimony-by-ghislaine-maxwells-accusers/?utm_source=mostpopular

Roussette · 03/12/2021 13:44

This article is interesting, a lot about grooming and how GM fits into all of this.

time.com/6125081/ghislaine-maxwell-grooming-trial/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_term=u.s._crime&linkId=142731879

CommonRoom · 03/12/2021 13:58

There are two mysteries about Epstein which I think are not mysteries, but people are not willing to say it out loud.

  1. How did he make his vast fortune? He came from a very modest background and it was difficult to tell exactly where his money came from.
The answer=the billionaire Les Wexner (founder of Victoria's Secret and other companies) mysteriously trusted JE with his finances and mysteriously made him very rich. Les Wexner was gay, but not out of the closet. You can draw your own conclusions
  1. How did JE continue making vast sums of money?
Answer= He was able to procure girls and he spent a lot of time with rich and powerful people. He had recording equipment on his premises.

It seems obvious to me that both JE and GM were running a blackmail operation.

Roussette · 03/12/2021 14:38

Totally agree. I remember reading an article about his NY mansion. Every single room had cameras all feeding back to a central hub. This room had 20+ screens and staff monitoring all that was happening. You can't tell me that footage was not used for nefarious means. To blackmail, to sell on, to share... all of it.

And how Ghislaine can say she knew nothing about this beats me

PerditaNitt · 03/12/2021 14:58

Amazed that footage from the townhouse has not been leaked.

Other rumours around his fortune are equally shady - money from the towers financial ponzi scheme is unaccounted for.

SoItWas · 03/12/2021 15:44

I'm not sure if Epstein killed himself either. On the one hand, maybe he could have struck a deal, by agreeing to drop some surprise big names in the shit. But those he could have named, got him first.

On the other hand, maybe he really didn't have any cards left to play, knew he would have a shit time in prison for the rest of his life, and chose to go on his own terms (as opposed to being brutally attacked or murdered in jail).

Roussette · 03/12/2021 15:52

I've veered from thinking he definitely did not commit suicide, to thinking he did.

I actually now think he probably did and the fact footage was missing, the guards weren't doing their job etc... was irrelevant. I think it was just sloppy management of the prison which is why GM is checked continually all night because they cannot let this happen again.

I think he'd lived such a life of out of this world luxury that he knew he'd be in jail forever and couldn't handle it.

Allthatglittersandgold · 03/12/2021 15:53

@notangelinajolie I am so sad and angry to read about what happened to your Dad.

EvilPea · 03/12/2021 15:56

Has anyone seen the court drawing of ghislane drawing the court artist drawing ghislane

SoItWas · 03/12/2021 16:14

"I also thought that JE’s autopsy revealed throat injuries consistent with strangulation?"

Epstein was found with marks on his neck one day, in jail before his death. There was an investigation, to see if he was attacked, or tried to commit suicide.

His cell mate, insists Epstein tried to kill himself, but he interveened, and there should have been CCTV showing all this, but it disappeared.

www.npr.org/2020/01/09/795004811/video-outside-cell-during-jeffrey-epsteins-first-suicide-attempt-no-longer-exist?t=1638547895880

Maybe he was allowed to kill himself? A blind eye was turned?

Allthatglittersandgold · 03/12/2021 17:01

@EvilPea

Has anyone seen the court drawing of ghislane drawing the court artist drawing ghislane
Yes, fucking freak.
Roussette · 03/12/2021 18:32

Oh my, haven't seen this. Are you saying Ghislaine is drawing the court artist?

Given it's not a televised trial, there will always be court drawings...

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/03/ghislaine-maxwell-trial-jeffrey-epstein-photograph

This is revolting. Prepubescent drawings of young girls pulling down their pants, everything exposed... pictures outside his bedroom at his Palm Beach property.

Yet Ghislaine didn't know anything...

colouringindoors · 03/12/2021 18:34

Wow. That is appalling. How on earth could anyone believe she didn't know Angry

colouringindoors · 03/12/2021 18:35

Maybe he was allowed to kill himself? A blind eye was turned?

I think that is a hugely likely scenario.

orangepeelsz · 03/12/2021 18:57

There is another Instagram account called trialtracker

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sjxoxo · 03/12/2021 19:10

Podcast I’ve found that’s tolerable: The Epstein Chronicles. American guy who does a summary every day. Not amazing but best I’ve found so far with actual info rather than people chit chatting their own opinion!

Agree there’s a huge lack of coverage in the UK. Seems much more content from the states xo

Tulipomania · 03/12/2021 19:18

Following with interest. I met GM when she was at Oxford and have also met other members of her family.

I'm an ex-journalist and don't think there is anyone holding back on news coverage. It's as I would expect on the news sources I usually follow - Guardian & BBC. Trials are long and slow and quite tedious and there won't be that much happening on a day to day basis.

Also the competing news agenda has been quite intense.

Tulipomania · 03/12/2021 19:21

What fascinates me (trivially) is whether she has had access to hair dye in jail. Hard to tell from the drawings.

In some US states trials are televised. Unfortunately not this one.

OJ Simpson was, and Jeffrey Dahmer (grim serial killer).

Porcupineintherough · 03/12/2021 19:28

I think its because its a federal trial that its not televised.

Its not the main point at all but I would love to know what the fuck the parents of some of these children thought they were doing. A millionaire playboy wants to take your daughter off to his holiday home/island/luxury apartment and you don't wonder why?

upinaballoon · 03/12/2021 19:51

@notangelinajolie

I am interested in this. Not because of Prince Andrew. Because of the Maxwell name. My dad worked for Robert Maxwell and at the age of 60 lost his entire pension. He had to make up a lifetimes pension contributions in 5 years. He did it but it had a massive impact on his health. He spent the years he should have been slowing down and looking forward retirement working his socks off. Unsociable hours, living out of a suitcase in a grotty hotel 300 miles away from his family for 6 days out of 7. In his 60's sat on the floor of a packed train from London to Manchester just to get home to my mum for one night. I blame the Maxwell family (and that includes Ghislaine) for this. My dad died 6 months after the day he retired Sad Bastards the lot of them.
Bastards the lot of them.

Until recently when one of the brothers spoke up for her, and reminded me, I had put to the back of my mind the questioning of the two brothers by Frank Field. It was on TV news. It was all to do with the pensions and the clever little whotsits refused to answer every question.

Roussette · 03/12/2021 20:12

@sjxoxo

Thank you! I'm going to download this

Roussette · 03/12/2021 20:14

@Tulipomania

I have watched many televised trials (the last one being Chauvin, and before that Pistorius) it's a shame this isn't being televised but understand why

Roussette · 03/12/2021 20:16

@Porcupineintherough

These were vulnerable kids. Poor, desperate, parents thinking they'd struck lucky.
They trawled trailer parks, schools, camps etc.

Porcupineintherough · 03/12/2021 20:28

But what did they say to them? Adults dont usually hang out with 14 year olds for the sparkling repartee or because of shared interests. Where their parents selling them, poor kids? Sad

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