Welsh Government: Transgender people are people who are born as one sex but are the other sex

[OldCrone]

This is from the new LGBTQ+ Action Plan for Wales: easy read version

Transgender people are people who are born as one sex but are the other sex. For example, a person who looks like a man on the outside may be a woman on the inside

This is one of the documents for the current consultation about the new LGBTQ+ Action Plan.

I decided to look at the easy read version and the young people's version since the standard version didn't seem to have any kind of glossary about the terms used. The easy read version does, but some of the definitions, like this one, don't make sense. The young people's version, like the standard version, has no glossary.

In a consultation about LGBTQ+ people, the Welsh Government appears to be unable to define clearly what terms like 'transgender', 'gender identity' and 'non-binary' actually mean.

[LongBlobson]

Has the whole world lost the plot?

[NancyDrawed]

I get that this is the easy read version, but it names gender as a protected characteristic (although does include sex, so that's something)

[catzwhiskas]

Exploding with fury.

[MrsOvertonsWindow]

It's embarrassing to see this sort of rubbish being produced by a government. And it shows just how untouchable this ideology is that nobody dares point out incoherent drivel self identifying as legal facts.

[NancyDrawed]

Sexual Identity
Sexual Identity is who you are sexually attracted to. For
example lesbian, gay man, bisexual, heterosexual.

So Sexual Identity is a re branding of sexuality?

[Jaysmith71]

Maybe I like Rugby and Cheese on toast. Does that make me Welsh on the inside?

[GrimDamnFanjo]

@OldCrone

This is from the new LGBTQ+ Action Plan for Wales: easy read version

Transgender people are people who are born as one sex but are the other sex. For example, a person who looks like a man on the outside may be a woman on the inside

This is one of the documents for the current consultation about the new LGBTQ+ Action Plan.

I decided to look at the easy read version and the young people's version since the standard version didn't seem to have any kind of glossary about the terms used. The easy read version does, but some of the definitions, like this one, don't make sense. The young people's version, like the standard version, has no glossary.

In a consultation about LGBTQ+ people, the Welsh Government appears to be unable to define clearly what terms like 'transgender', 'gender identity' and 'non-binary' actually mean.

That's just embarrassing. Fuck me.

[Artichokeleaves]

No. Just plain untrue.

[Wrongsideofhistorymyarse]

Absolute nonsense.

[TheWeeDonkey]

A Welsh person is anyone who identifies as a Welsh person Jaysmith71 💫👍

[EarthSight]

It seems that people are unhappy with the idea of gender identity. They now want to completely erase the meaning of what sex is, much to to the detriment of women. Also, is that statement in line with the Equality Act?

[TheWeeDonkey]

No I get it, I'm short and fat on the outside but I'm tall and slim on the inside.

Won't anyone validate my true identity? 😭

[Silvergreen]

@NancyDrawed

Sexual Identity
Sexual Identity is who you are sexually attracted to. For
example lesbian, gay man, bisexual, heterosexual.

So Sexual Identity is a re branding of sexuality?

These are sexual orientations. The sex of the people you are attracted to. It's nothing to do with having sex although that may be part of your life. This has been completely changed and it pisses me off.

[Jaysmith71]

@TheWeeDonkey

A Welsh person is anyone who identifies as a Welsh person Jaysmith71 💫👍

Well iechyd da to that.

Now where's me seaweed sandwich?

[TheWeeDonkey]

I'm sorry, this is so far through the looking glass I can't take it seriously. I would love to see how the people who do this react when the house of cards collapses

[ArabellaScott]

@Jaysmith71

Maybe I like Rugby and Cheese on toast. Does that make me Welsh on the inside?

What is Rugby and Cheese on toast, some kind of weird national dish?

[AtlasNeverShrugged]

Who do we email to complain about this?

[EarthSight]

For example, a person who looks like a man on the outside may be a woman on the inside

How does that work with medicine, exactly? It doesn't does it, because you can't wish away material reality. I just have to question the effect this is having on young girls. I just see this as gaslighting on an unbelievable scale. It's cult-like.

[ArabellaScott]

Same, WeeDonkey, it's amazing that someone writes this with a straight face. If the consequences weren't potentially serious it would just be amusing.

[EarthSight]

Also, what does 'inside' even mean????

I assume they don't think that out outward bodily appearance is some kind of shell, like a costume?? I think what they want to say is 'may be a woman psychologically' or 'may be have a female soul'....but they don't actually want to come out and say that because it would inspire to many questions that they would then have to spend some time silencing or shouting down.

[TheWeeDonkey]

I dunno EarthSight maybe its like that guy in Men in Black? Or like those matryoshka dolls? Or maybe like a Kinder Egg, chocolate on the outside but a toy on the inside!

[TheWeeDonkey]

I mean one person wrote that, then another person proof read it. I assume someone else translated it and then someone else published it and distributed it!🙈

[BreatheAndFocus]

If our outside body she’ll can hide a person of the opposite sex, why could it not hide another species, or another age of human - or indeed anything we want.

I thought this was a problem with identity politics, but it’s actually the whole point of it - you are what you say you are, be that the opposite sex, an elf, a toddler, a wolf, and anyone who questions you or expresses disbelief is just being horrid.

[Jaysmith71]

So I asked Google Translate to say what 'gender' was in Welsh, and it came back as 'rhyw.'

So I asked Google Translate what 'rhyw' was in English and it came back as 'Sex.'

[ThisIsSimplyBeyond]

Genre or class is 'dosbarth, so it should be sex = rhyw and gender (from root genre) is dosbarth...?