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aliasundercover Thu 26-Nov-20 20:37:46

twitter.com/BoyzMagazine/status/1332052779871965186

Looks like they're gunning for gay men now. Anything other than complete agreement is no good.

Readers here will be used to this sort of insanity:
twitter.com/robholley/status/1332054419337334789
I wonder if it will wake up those who have not seen it before?

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Winesalot Thu 26-Nov-20 20:44:58

Apparently it was a good seminar to have been in. Anyone attend?

CaraDuneRedux Thu 26-Nov-20 21:04:01

Ha ha.

Bet their be-penised readers still aren't interested in gentlemen with vulvas, though.

PurpleHoodie Thu 26-Nov-20 21:11:51

Gay men are still ONLY going to Gay though so.......

Duckwit Thu 26-Nov-20 21:16:13

They might as well have just tweeted 'forgive us Father, for we have sinned'.

Still it's looking like a mere confession in the box isn't going to be enough, so they might have to reach for the hairshirt and cilice belt?

StillAFeminist Thu 26-Nov-20 21:18:37

Why are they meeting with Mermaids? I assume Boyz despite its name is for consenting adult men rather than for children

ArabellaScott Thu 26-Nov-20 21:21:51

Best comment on there: '“Do it to Julia!”'

TweeBree Thu 26-Nov-20 21:23:41

I don't visit very often but Data Lounge seems quite gender critical.

EyesOpening Thu 26-Nov-20 21:53:49

ArabellaScott

Best comment on there: '“Do it to Julia!”'

Am I the only one who doesn’t understand that? confused

SirSamuelVimes Thu 26-Nov-20 21:55:16

It's what Winston says in room 101 when he's about to be eaten alive by rats. 1984.

lionheart Thu 26-Nov-20 21:55:25

Just saw this. I was going to go to the webinar but didn't want to take a space that might be used by a gay man. Really disappointed at the retreat.

lionheart Thu 26-Nov-20 21:59:01

Not to mention:

'We got it wrong. Please forgive us. We will be setting up a meeting with @Mermaids_Gender in the very near future to help improve our relationship and our reporting of trans issues and their concerns. David Bridle, Managing Editor, Boyz.'

OhHolyJesus Thu 26-Nov-20 22:01:30

Why mermaids though? Why not Stonewall? Mermaids is about 'trans' kids not gay men.

I know Stonewall isn't for gay me either, not anymore, but by their mission statement alone Mermaids is not the way to go. They even got that wrong. This won't go well for Boyz. Lots of support for LGB Alliance though so 👍🏻

lionheart Thu 26-Nov-20 22:06:01

Meanwhile:

LGB Alliance
@ALLIANCELGB

'We are so sorry David. We understand completely. Thank you for you efforts to encourage respectful dialogue.'

SirSamuelVimes Thu 26-Nov-20 22:20:04

Agree about Mermaids. It's a children's charity, isn't it? And this is a magazine for adult gay men? Where is the overlap? Where is the relevance?

jj1968 Thu 26-Nov-20 22:21:16

lionheart

Just saw this. I was going to go to the webinar but didn't want to take a space that might be used by a gay man. Really disappointed at the retreat.

A good example I'd say of what the vast majority of LGB people really think of attempts to carve off the trans. Almost every well known gay business London just refused to stop stocking Boyz. I realise lots of straight people love them but LGB Alliance are clearly utterly toxic within LGBT circles.

DeaconBoo Thu 26-Nov-20 22:29:47

LGB people are disappointed at the retreat and are boycotting the magazine because of the apology?

2020inhouse Thu 26-Nov-20 22:30:03

Surprise surprise it was David Paisley who bullied their sponsors online in order to force the retraction
He loves silencing people.

OhHolyJesus Thu 26-Nov-20 22:30:38

We are so sorry David. We understand completely. Thank you for you efforts to encourage respectful dialogue.

It's just so classy isn't it? None of the drama. I can understand why LGB people just want a calm discussion instead of all the tantrums, it's getting very tiresome. I'm not surprised to see so much support for them on Twitter tonight, though I think Boyz are toast. Even if Mermaids showed their support of Boyz I think they will just be driven to ground for not prioritising the T 100% of the time. Capitulate or die.

DJLippy Thu 26-Nov-20 22:37:47

Looking through the comments sections. Looks like they are coming for the editor. The sharks smell blood.

DJLippy Thu 26-Nov-20 22:40:49

twitter.com/Mermaids_Gender/status/1332059426178654214?s=20

YomTov Thu 26-Nov-20 22:44:12

I went to the webinar, and it was great, hearing gay men who obviously understood what was happening to women, and all the pitfalls of gender ideology. And it's sad to remember that they were praising Boyz for being open to discussion, how important this was. And then I came out of the webinar and a short while later, saw what was happening on Twitter....

LadyLightning Thu 26-Nov-20 22:58:04

It does seem to make sense to separate support people whose sexuality is not always accepted or supported and may be discriminated for because of that and people whose gender identity puts them in the same situation. Since we keep being told sexuality and gender are completely different things, why not be seen separate.

jj1968 Thu 26-Nov-20 23:06:20

LadyLightning

It does seem to make sense to separate support people whose sexuality is not always accepted or supported and may be discriminated for because of that and people whose gender identity puts them in the same situation. Since we keep being told sexuality and gender are completely different things, why not be seen separate.

Firstly because trans and LGB people have always stood together in solidarity and been stronger for it.

Secondly because pretty much anyone trans in a relationship is going to be viewed as LGB by some people and likely to face homophobia as a result.

Thirdly our enemies are the same, those who are transphobic and usually homophobic as well.

And finally because a lot of LGB people are also gender non-conforming so it is in the interests of us all to fight for a society which is not hostile towards people whose gender identity or presentation does not conform to the sex they were born.

ImaSababa Fri 27-Nov-20 00:01:25

Solidarity? There's solidarity in a trans woman telling a lesbian she is a bigot if she doesn't sleep with them?

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