No vaccines for healthy 12-15 Yr olds

[Wellbythebloodyhell]

news.sky.com/story/covid-19-vaccines-will-not-be-recommended-for-healthy-children-aged-12-to-15-government-advisers-say-12398444

Is anyone else glad this potential decision has been taken away? I was very much undecided about vaccinating my older dc and now feel a bit of a weight has been lifted now its not something I need to consider.

I’d like to have the decision to make, I want my children vaccinated. You could always choose not to if it was offered, sadly I don’t have the option to have my choice.

Awful decision, which I suspect will become clear in a few weeks time when schools have been back a few weeks.

It makes total sense when we know that the vaccines are limited in preventing infection or transmission.

Vaccinating children wouldn't be for their benefit.

I'm very pro vaccines by the way, and I know they're excellent at preventing hospitalisation and death.

This has annoyed me as a mother with 2 kids in this age category and as a secondary school teacher. I think parents should be given the option if they want their children vaccinated in this age group.

I did notice the JCVI has at least recommended expanding the current criteria for vulnerable children able to receive the vaccine. That's the minimum that should be done. It's currently extremely difficult to get CEV children vaccinated despite it being open to them. It also excludes many children who shouldn't be.

Absolutely ridiculous. I'd rather my child had the vaccine than risk long covid. Also, this means I might not be able to visit my family for another 18 months and unvaccinated 12-15yr olds need to quarantine

Where I live (European country) 75% of 12-15yr olds have at least one dose, school starts next week so it will be interesting to see how it affects transmission in secondary vs primary, as statistically last year the younger the child the fewer classmates infected, despite the fact that there were no masks worn amongst the youngest.

Fascinating. The govt will now be having frantic meetings about whether they can overrule the JCVI (Hunt hinted at it on R4).

They basically had the plans ready to go for the next couple of weeks and were relying on it to stop secondary being a complete shitshow. What will they do now? It’s going to have to be more than CO2 monitors by Christmas.

Let's home no one wants to go abroad to some locations for a bit.
A number of countries - say anyone 12+ needs to be fully vaccinated to enter, and no test allowed as a way round it. Based on places friends have been to this summer: I think Portugal only changed to allow entry by negative test this week and Antigua has just introduced vaccine entry only.

Most parents I know would have just liked the option to decide for themselves whether to vaccinate their child or not.

The JCVI ruled on the individual risk/health of the child only. Not on community transmission, disruption to education etc etc.

This is just their recommendation based on very specific criteria, it is not necessarily the final decision as things stand.

Just have to wait and see.

Crazy decision. I really don't understand it.

The right decision IMO.

No one seems to remember the swine flu vaccine and the scandal over its effect on kids - people have such short memories!

My 13 year old won't be having it. I've had the vaccine - the risk/benefit analysis for me was weighted so that having it was worth it for me but for her the risks far outweigh any benefits. Teens are at more risk from accidents on the road than Covid. When she's 18 she can make up her own mind.Madness to even think of vaccinating the under 18's IMO.

I get the impression Nicola Sturgeon and the Scottish government might overule the JCVI advice. If Scotland open up vaccines to over 12s but England don't, could you hop over the border to a drop in centre and have it done?

The JCVI ruled on the individual risk/health of the child only.

Just as it should be. Children should not be taking a risk if it is not of benefit to their individual health.

The UK's vaccine advisory body has refused to give the green light to vaccinating healthy children aged 12-15 years old on health grounds alone.But the JCVI said the government should consider wider issues including disruption to schools.Ministers across the UK have asked chief medical officers to look at whether that tips the balance.

Hopefully the government look at other issues, like disruption to education and gives the parents and children the choice.

As a parent and secondary teacher I'm utterly frustrated. Give parents and children the choice.

An interesting development, I’m curious to know more about why and to see how the public will react should the government go against this recommendation and issues arose as a result. .

This will certainly put a dampener on the whole ‘schools are safe’ argument when they can’t use vaccination as a key reason for keeping schools restriction free when cases start to rise again.

Autumn is going to be tough for many people.

Interesting watching people desperately struggle with the cognitive dissonance of, on the one hand telling people to take the vaccine because the experts say it's safe but, on the other, saying that they should have the right to decide whether their children are vaccinated because they know better than the experts.

What is the argument in favour of vaccinating 12-15 year olds? If it doesn't reduce transmission, and that age group don't get very sick with it statistically than what different would it make to schools now that there's no such thing as close contacts isolating?

Fuxache. My kids going to be annoyed if he can't have it.

@bumbleymummy

The JCVI ruled on the individual risk/health of the child only.

Just as it should be. Children should not be taking a risk if it is not of benefit to their individual health.

This.

@illuyankas

The UK's vaccine advisory body has refused to give the green light to vaccinating healthy children aged 12-15 years old on health grounds alone.But the JCVI said the government should consider wider issues including disruption to schools.Ministers across the UK have asked chief medical officers to look at whether that tips the balance.

Hopefully the government look at other issues, like disruption to education and gives the parents and children the choice.

Would parents really decide to vaccinate when the scientific consensus is that the risks of the vaccine don’t outweigh the benefits to a healthy child, purely to avoid disrupted learning? Particularly when many children are already immune so shouldn’t need to come out of school and isolate anyway.

consensus from the jcvi*

My 13 year old would’ve be having it anyway. She had covid and was absolutely fine and guess what… no long covid!

@Thislittlefinger123

What is the argument in favour of vaccinating 12-15 year olds? If it doesn't reduce transmission, and that age group don't get very sick with it statistically than what different would it make to schools now that there's no such thing as close contacts isolating?

Vaccinations do cut transmission according to the government

www.gov.uk/government/news/one-dose-of-covid-19-vaccine-can-cut-household-transmission-by-up-to-half