Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #64

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TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: www.tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

Thread 63: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5581909-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-63 24 September 2026 to 27 September 2026

He's outclassed in every sense here.

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😍 was starting to get twitchy!!!

I don't think he can really answer that tbh.

SF I’ve been off with a bereavement

Sorry for your loss and all that but……this just made me snort my tea

Thank you.

Still vertiginous, but much less so. I ought to be able to do half an hour or so, spelling with you.

I can't say about this afternoon yet, if not recovered I may be asleep for at least part of it. 😘

He really doesn't want to talk about Fred!

Can't blame him on that score!

I wonder if he's just starting to get a tiny inkling of an idea of how all those nurses felt when their professionalism was called into doubt?

DH piling in to try and help SF out.

I wish we could see what Freda was wearing!

Fairly typical I'd say. All sorts of people with zero qualifications or credibility get to "train" professionals because they claim to be trans.

I dont!

Probably not a lot

"I don't recall"
"sorry can you ask that question again"
"I don't know if that was their position"
"I haven't, no"
"I couldn't say for certain"
"I don't think that was my understanding of the case law"
"...potentially..."
"I can see why you would draw that conclusion"
"Someone could take it that way"
"...sorry, what was the question?"

And he gets paid for this knowledge.

From TT:

J were you present?
SF no
NC this appears to be a tweet of FW appearing
SF it says RCN on the platform not sure. I don’t believe FW is a staff
NC but he is a member
SF don’t know.
NC he’s dressed less demurely in these other pictures. If this man has been allowed to lecture to
NC FW has been asked to talk to RCN about discrimination.
SF RCN doesn’t have an ability to address posts on social media
NC looking at these posts do you agree he’s a menacing individual who RCN shouldn’t be associated with?
SF I’m unclear ..whether investigated or not.
NC but

I use the Pexip app. When you set up for the first time you can set as default that the mic and camera are not accessed by the app. Highly recommended.

So this guy seems fairly incompetent. Dose that show that the RCN were just a bit shit, rather than discriminating against SP for being GC?

BH said yesterday that the RCN represented Rose in the Darlington Nurses case. I wonder how quick they were to respond to his request for help?

I think he's dead, Naomi. Comatose, at least.

NC has finally managed to annoy the judge

Unison for Rose

I so wish she'd bring up the Workplace Regulations - these must be the bread and butter of union reps, surely?

From Nick re Fred Wallace as this is mind-blowing:

"NC I think I am write there is a series of events put on by RCN for local activists called activist academy
SF yes
NC what is it

SF in ref to what
NC you said we have an AA - what is it
SF my understanding of it - we have one in England where a series of academies about training reps and keeping them up to date in support and representation - 3 types - learning, stewards and health and safety reps

NC and they get together and do training
SF I would have thought so I have not been involved in this
NC can you go to the smallest supplementary bundle - p51 - a tweet from a Freda Wallace
SF think it's a BlueSky post

SF we don't call them tweets any more
NC let's call it a post. Its from someone called Freda Wallace - this is from an AA event at the London HQ
SF I don't know who FW is - I know we hired that space out - anyone can hire rooms at HQ - not sure it's an RCN event organised by

NC looks like FW is training nurses about discrimination
SF not sure it's an RCN event
SF people can hire that space and use it freely
NC any reason why you are keen to intro the idea this is nothing to do with RCN SF don't believe FW is a member of staff
NC but it is

known he is a member.
NC and if you look at the subsequent pics - he's dressed quite demurely at the event, but in the other pics he is dressed less demurely, isn't he
SF yes
NC if what p51 implies is true - that FW has been invited to speak at RCN events about discrimination...

... then in the light of the pics and posts on pp41 - 50 that is a serious reputational risk for the RCN isn't it.
SF RCN can't police peoples SM
NC "looking at those posts do you agree he is a thoroughly unpleasant and menacing ind who RCN should not be willing to associated with publicly"

SF if they are a member and I don't know if they are I believe there's a code of conduct they have to adhere to
NC not saying this is a matter for you to implement - but surely someone like FW should be expelled before their feet touch the ground the moment these pics come to

their attn.
DH don't answer that q.
Judge this has been put to SF and he's said this is not his area to judge
NC in the past the RCN has notoriously has a serious misogyny problem and these posts suggest they haven't dealt with it"

Judge is sounding croaky.

They must all have the lurgy.

Sorry, yes you're right

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