Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #65

[nauticant]

TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: www.tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

Thread 63: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5581909-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-63 24 September 2026 to 27 September 2026

Thread 64: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5583133-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-64 27 September 2026 to 29 September 2026

NC currently having robust discussion with the judge.

Thanks for new threat Nauticant.

No worries. I'm looking forward to the focus being on the ET rather than on pig wrestling.

Thank you once more nauti

This is gripping (and flabbergasting) stuff. Freda Wallace???

From TT:

NC we already know RCN has a misogyny problem. Any RCN activist ought to be aware and wish to see the union distance itself. If he thinks that’s a difficult question that’s why it’s legitimate.
J Mr Hay’s point is this witness wouldn’t make the decision to expel. Potentially

SF yes
NC you would feel obligated to report?
SF yes if that was a member I was aware of yes
NC we’ve agreed unpleasant behaviour lead to investigation
SF yes

Carefully worded there, @Boiledbeetle .

Just place marking, to busy reading to comment. 😁

I'm still not sure if Stuart realises how badly he handled this, and how much legal stuff he just wasn't on top of.

The Bananarama defence rears its head

Thank you nauticant, and a reminder that in the past nauticant has suggested that we use the 'thanks' emoji rather than a post to say thank you - if we all post how grateful we are individually, that's hastening the end of this thread and poor overworked nauticant having to start another!

That's right, isn't it, nauticant? a thanks emoji is enough to make you feel loved and valued and appreciated?

I've been out of the loop with real life stuff taking precedence and hadn't even registered we were back in court. I have a lot of catch up reading to do!

Objectivity?!!!!!!

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Oops, important missing bit from TT above (the tweet cut off and I didn't notice): should say

Potentially other witnesses might be able to answer. This witness has said he doesn’t know who FW is and can’t decide if can be expelled. NC the follow up question is RCN code of conduct and aware behaving publicly in this manner ‘the responsibility of all RCN members’

It obviously has a different meaning in some dictionaries.

From TT:

NC re the suspension review meeting. P 353. Your note
SF yes
NC SP was emphatic she loved her job and didn’t want to move but in the car park you tried to persuade her to move
SF not persuade, exploring options

NC another indication you weren’t approaching it from pov of her rights
SF my understanding was she was under investigation
NC but the obvious person who should be asked to modify his behaviour was the man in the changing room. You hadn’t spotted it.
SF I was unsure what had been reported. A bundle and have to keep objectivity.
NC but your starting point is what your member tells you is true? You hadn’t spotted that was a manifestation of her PC?
SF not that she held those beliefs but how she manifested them potentially

OMG!!!!!!

No matey, it isn't still contentious, it's settled law!

Wriggle wriggle wriggle.

Expressing thanks via the medium of an emoji works well in my view.

Stuart sounds a bit down.

From TT:

NC but at that point the charges hadn’t been clear. You hadn’t spotted that because no one had bothered to train you re forstater and Higgs

SF we work on the basis of prospects
NC you were not aware this was a developing legal area?
SF it still is
NC did that not mean you needed more info?

Your understanding, everyone at RCNs understanding = the RCNs official position.

Fed definitely an RCN member according to Robbie Travers on X

https://x.com/RobbieTravers/status/2104867842214502616?s=20

Sandie never stood a chance with this numpty representing her.

NC you were not aware this was a developing legal area?
SF it still is

oooh a bit of feistiness there from Stuart, it's not quite time yet for
'Just leave it, Nay, 'e's done'