Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #64

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TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: www.tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

Thread 63: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5581909-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-63 24 September 2026 to 27 September 2026

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Damn it Judge! The Lemsip was just kicking in.

Sad times. But something to look forward to.

He didn't give a shiny shit about the women being forced to undress in front of a man did he.

I disagree, he doesn't care or seem to be a deep thinker.

That's one of those "don't say the quiet bit out loud" moments, isn't it? Or, rather, blurting out the thing that you just can't keep out of your head?

From TT:

NC didn’t occur to you to talk to other women? SF no I didn’t do that. J will you be another hour? NC probably yes J in that case we’ll finish and resume tomorrow at 10.00

Even with a cold, she's quite something. I've had a nasty one come in today and all I've done is sit on the sofa wrapped in a blanket.

SF the board decided

Are you fucking kidding me Stuart??

I’m pretty certain that in his evidence, Upton said that Sandie didn’t actually say the name.

Yes, from Thursday 6th Feb 25, in evidence to JR:

DU - she said it wasn't safe for me to be there, asked what my chromosomes were, said it was analagous to the recent case, I assumed Isla Bryson...
JR - hang on please explain exactly the prisons comment
DU - she said it's like the situation in the prisons.
JR -what did you think
DU - I assumed she meant Isla Bryson, that she was comparing me to a sexual predator, there was an argument over men and women's estates

Reading through, I’m so annoyed once again by the utter nonsense DU was allowed to spout, especially when being examined by NC. And at the constant needless interruptions from JR

Nah, I think he'll be tossing and turning and clawing at the duvet saying
Yes! I mean No! I mean She! NO I mean He! Please, somebody, make her stop!

Amd he failed to note that Sandie didn't know whether he was one of the dangerous ones or not.

And he did in fact turnout to be pretty damn dangerous.

He'll get the 'her' right there, won't he.

It's quite devastating as a woman to hear this (presumably ordinary and not sex offender) male witness, who holds a professional job, demonstrate total contempt for the feelings and human rights of women, the majority of whom don't want to get undressed in front of men whatever their GI beliefs, and his disinterest in addressing this casual sexual harassment/ abuse even though he works for a union....

I cannot believe he was trying to pass off his bias of writing "she" as a spelling error, you don't get to change it now, there is no slip rule for you.

This afternoon was infuriating.

Meanwhile what about the workplace regs? As a union rep he should have known about these and so on that basis alone he could have supported Sandie’s case.

Just caught up hope that Nick post all his tweets soon as not on twitter.

sounds as if SF is going home with his head on a plate

It was the utterly jawdropping moment when Upton said " biological sex is a nebulous dog whistle ", which I will NEVER forget!

It's not hard to see how they think they did nothing wrong in how they "supported" Sandie after his evidence so far.

He thinks Sandie, and by extension any woman, should just shut up and take their clothes off so as not to upset the men.

NC's point - he was not interested in the wrongs done to SP and all the other women in NHS Fife. Only in the 'wrongs' SP may have done to DU.

I'd bet he's got a stinking headache right now.

Bias is not the right word ... indoctrination?

From TT:
Many apologies for some typos in earlier posts in this thread. EC should be NC throughout this second afternoon session.

I don't see how the 2nd Q supports RCN. It's evidence they won't represent women even when the TW is actively behaving badly rather than simply being present. Makes them look more biased, not less.

Oh he knew about the 1992 regs, but trans init.