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Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #64

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nauticant · 27/09/2026 20:51

TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: www.tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

Thread 63: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5581909-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-63 24 September 2026 to 27 September 2026

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Boiledbeetle · 28/09/2026 15:22

NC nothing on the RCN website that clarifies or updates GC protections.
SF not sure
NC we’ll see later.

The suspense is killing me.

YouCanCallMeMonster · 28/09/2026 15:22

He’s suddenly not got a lot to say…

Appalonia · 28/09/2026 15:22

Yeah mate, you need that gulp of water.

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 28/09/2026 15:22

What is this guy's full job title?

Mmmnotsure · 28/09/2026 15:22

People pay actual money to be advised by someone like this? I can hardly believe it.

FarriersGirl · 28/09/2026 15:22

From TT:

NC website refers to Jaguar Landrover ‘given that gender is a spectrum’ and ‘an important decision’. What we see there is your senior people and activists given a contrasting treatment compared to a binding judgement?

Boiledbeetle · 28/09/2026 15:23

Mmmnotsure · 28/09/2026 15:22

People pay actual money to be advised by someone like this? I can hardly believe it.

I'm actually appalled.

Coffeebeforework · 28/09/2026 15:24

Is NC's "We'll see later" a threat or a promise???

SinnerBoy · 28/09/2026 15:24

A nice simple story; why, indeed!

🥊🥊🥊

Boiledbeetle · 28/09/2026 15:24

Coffeebeforework · 28/09/2026 15:24

Is NC's "We'll see later" a threat or a promise???

Depends if you are SF or Mumsnet!

FarriersGirl · 28/09/2026 15:25

From TT:

SF I understand what you’re saying but disagree with the assumption.
NC also on website ‘let’s talk inclusion, being the change’. December 24. Back to other page - seemingly deliberately muddle the concepts of gender and sex. Confusing?
SF It was yes

YouCanCallMeMonster · 28/09/2026 15:25

This is horrifying that the language has been muddled so deliberately.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 28/09/2026 15:26

Boiledbeetle · 28/09/2026 11:30

And she was probably feeling like she was going mad. It must have felt like she'd fallen into some alternate universe where up is suddenly down.

Yes, exactly, and Marie is right as well. Being accused of professional misconduct is absolutely devastating. I have seen the effects at first hand. It is perhaps even more devastating, or at least just as devastating, when the accusation is false, based on prejudice or misunderstanding of what actually happened and the motivation of the health care professional.

Appalonia · 28/09/2026 15:26

That word, gender, has got a LOT to answer for..!

CriticalCondition · 28/09/2026 15:26

YouCanCallMeMonster · 28/09/2026 15:22

He’s suddenly not got a lot to say…

He's played his best card. That was a halting and unexplained reference to 'Grainger' in the hope it might convince everyone he knows what he's talking about.

KittyWilkinson · 28/09/2026 15:26

Appalonia · 28/09/2026 15:20

No wonder the RCN is in such a mess.

It was always shit. I don't think I've ever had a discussion with anyone who felt well represented by them. It's not even affiliated to the TUC. (Although that's not saying much!)

Boiledbeetle · 28/09/2026 15:27

Come on Stuart...

Where's your fight gone?

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 28/09/2026 15:27

It sounds like NC is really beating him around the ring (a boxing metaphor)

chilling19 · 28/09/2026 15:28

NC has done well so far to show the bias of the RCN against GC members by promoting the ubiquitous ‘inclusive’ approach.

FarriersGirl · 28/09/2026 15:28

From TT:

NC then it rewrites the law ‘gender identity is the more inclusive term’ a deliberate attempt to extend the law.
SF I don’t know if that’s the intent.
NC It then proceeds as if it’s self evident that misgendering is bad?
SF preferred pronouns
NC they’re using correct sex pronouns

YouCanCallMeMonster · 28/09/2026 15:28

Boiledbeetle · 28/09/2026 15:27

Come on Stuart...

Where's your fight gone?

I could hazard a guess as to where it has retreated to but I think my post would get deleted.

MookieBananas · 28/09/2026 15:28

Can't believe what i am reading, your bunch of haterrzzzz..... what happened to #Be Kind to the Most Vulnerable with Feelz??

(In other words- can't believe I failed to realise there was another glorious thread! Thanks for the TT account and the comments 😘)

Appalonia · 28/09/2026 15:29

Who DID write this??

Boiledbeetle · 28/09/2026 15:29

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 28/09/2026 15:27

It sounds like NC is really beating him around the ring (a boxing metaphor)

It's the way she pushes him into basically agreeing with her or disagreeing and looking like he's lost the plot.

Boiledbeetle · 28/09/2026 15:30

YouCanCallMeMonster · 28/09/2026 15:28

I could hazard a guess as to where it has retreated to but I think my post would get deleted.

<Sniggers>

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