Sandie Peggie: Employment Tribunal, associated legal claims, and related matters - thread #64

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TLDR version: Sandie Peggie vs Royal College of Nursing is currently being heard. The hearing started on Wednesday 23 September 2026 and is scheduled to end on Thursday 1 October 2026.

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims were of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claimed to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and after a prolonged process judgment was handed down on 8 December 2025. That judgment is being appealed and an appeal hearing is expected to take place in 2027.

Additional legal claims have been raised. Sandie Peggie is taking action against the Royal College of Nursing, against three senior managers who were witnesses in the employment tribunal - Dr Kate Searle, Dr Maggie Currer and Esther Davidson, against Carol Potter, the chief executive of NHS Fife, for victimisation, against NHS Fife for discrimination, and against its director of people and culture David Miller for harassment. In addition, Sandie Peggie is being investigated by the Nursing and Midwifery Council over fitness to practice.

The past proceedings were live tweeted by www.x.com/tribunaltweets. Tribunal Tweets are likely to be providing coverage in current and future proceedings. There's additional information on Tribunal Tweets' substack: www.tribunaltweets.substack.com/.

Links to previous threads #1 to #60 can be found in this thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5379717-sandie-peggie-list-of-threads-covering-employment-tribunal-and-afterwards

Thread 61: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5472628-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-61 8 January 2026 to 3 August 2026

Thread 62: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5562302-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-following-employment-tribunal-judgment-thread-62 3 August 2026 to 24 September 2026

Thread 63: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5581909-sandie-peggie-employment-tribunal-associated-legal-claims-and-related-matters-thread-63 24 September 2026 to 27 September 2026

I think initially she didn't name a particular person, just had heard about the case but now knows the name Isla Bryson, so would agree that this is the person she was referring to?

Snorts coffee out nose.....

Wild horses wouldn't drag out of me a double entendre about a woman devoting two hours when a man could only manage two minutes...

From TT:

SF Yes
EC but if you waited till the disciplinary process had run its course you’d be out of time.
SF yes
EC you’re aware of Forstater case?
SF case she took action and it was found her beliefs were protected
EC had you any training on Forstater
SF yes Anderson Strathern.
EC p 1021

Oh Stuart. You are Sandie's best witness.

Naomi is making mincemeat of him.

Hello, Peter. Hello, Paul.
Goodbye, Peter. Goodbye, Paul.

Though he may reappear.

You know what they say about the career progress of mediocre white males.
Where do sub-mediocre ones end up on a Monday afternoon?

Naomi's questions are cheering me up no end.

He's had a career in customer services doncha know. And has just demonstrated he hasn't the faintest of faintest scoobies about the law.

From TT:

EC RCN magazine legal update GC belief and protection
SF yes have seen it.
EC do those pages represent your understanding dated September 2021
SF yes
EC by the time you spoke to SP you aware?
SF yes
EC (reads aloud) ‘it does represent an extremity of belief’. A grudging interpretation that focuses on protection of trans people as opposed to GC beliefs?
SF it would be difficult to summarise the case but I see the point you’re making

This donut trying to explain the complexities of the law to Naomi.

.

The Supreme Court ruling has ALWAYS been the law!

Numpty.

She's going to have to get the big pictures out in a minute

He is coming across as a right numpty.

From TT:

EC a fairer summary of Forstater would say this protects your members who hold those beliefs?
SF the SC ruling gives us more clarity than Forstater.
EC but think of the two sides of the debate, both engaged in Forsater. GC side has powerful protection and that is big news. Because lots of people didn’t know they were protected.

I’m cringing for him.

Real live video from the tribunal.

This is painful in a completely different way to this morning.

Who is EC? Should it be NC?

Stuttering numpty. Also revealing his bias by his answers.

…be careful about trying to bring science into this discussion, Stuart…

This is a man who is supposed to know certain stuff in order to assist many people.

He blatantly doesn't. It's shocking!

From TT:

EC but this is framed as something that might diminished the rights of trans people . No sense of ‘this will help you RCN protect your members’.
The language used is of ‘extremism’ makes it sound only slightly less toxic than Nazism.
SF but Grainger other aspects

NC nothing on the RCN website that clarifies or updates GC protections.
SF not sure
NC we’ll see later.

No wonder the RCN is in such a mess.