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NeelyOHara · Today 06:30

This is revolting, the Scottish government really, really seem to hate women don’t they. Is anyone in Scotland, is this being reported on up there?

JesseDavisGonnaHangOnInThereNSoul · Today 06:40

I've not seen anything about it apart from on here.
I'm in NE Scotland

Igneococcus · Today 06:52

This in the Scotland section of the Times, lets hope other Scottish newspapers and media are going to pick up the story.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · Today 07:24

AngleofRepose · Today 06:05

from the article:

LGBT Health and Wellbeing reported income of £1.15 million in 2024-25, though less than £38,000 came from individual donations. The Scottish government provided the charity with £262,000 and NHS Lothian handed over £252,000.
The charity received a further £230,000 from the Glasgow Health and Social and Social Care Partnership and Edinburgh Integration Joint Board. The vast majority of the cash, almost £900,000, was spent on salaries and pension contributions for its 27 staff. [my bold]

It's a money-making enterprise for sick people using newborns as props.

They should be shut down.

💯 agree, another quango, a complete rip off of public money, not mentioned thoroughly sickening use of money badly needed to provide services that the public need.

FortnamsTea · Today 07:39

@HelleofaboreThank you for that info - it's fascinating ! It's genuinely disgusting that infants are being experimented upon to provide thrills for men who are trying to become women. Criminal.

AngleofRepose · Today 07:42

I'd like to hear John Swinney's answers to questions about this. In public. On record. Being filmed, so we can see his face as he answers.

Pleasantsort2 · Today 07:44

MrsOvertonsWindow · Yesterday 21:44

The fact that this is funded by the NHS shows yet again how the NHS employs some very dangerous adults at senior levels. Encouraging men with a fetish to experiment on babies is unforgivable,

It's also deeply misogynistic to enable these dodgy men to disrupt the mother baby relationship and undermine a new mother's attempts to establish breastfeeding. Which is no doubt part of the attraction.

A million times this. Jail the lot of them. Won't happen but. 😭

FortnamsTea · Today 07:50

@NeelyOHaraI'm in Scotland. I was unaware of this.
It's ALL about NHS jobs (& fat pensions) feeding off mental health delusions. I'm the parent of an ASD young person who thinks they are 'trans'. Despite them having a diagnosis of situational mutism & clear difficulties (50% school timetable for years) my local NHS would be happy to refer them to a 'gender clinic' for a pathway to potential lifelong medical damage & mutilation.
My other young person, a survivor of covid-caused heart failure, can't have some treatment needed due to 'lack of funds'. NHS Scotland madness right here.

mrshoho · Today 07:53

I'm hoping a wonderful shero with millions of global followers will bring sunlight this disturbing use of NHS Scotland funds.

Helleofabore · Today 07:55

Adding posts for those who have not read about this issue previously

This is the case of a grandfather.

Novel Lactation Induction Protocol for a Transgender Woman Wishing to Breastfeed: A Case Report

Esme D. Trahair, Sarah Kokosa, Andy Weinhold, Heather Parnell, Andrea B. Dotson, and Carly E. Kelley
27 March 2024

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/full/10.1089/bfm.2024.0012

Background: Lactation induction in transgender women is a clinical and research priority in the field of breastfeeding medicine. To date, there are four case reports detailing successful induced lactation in transgender patients who wished to breastfeed. The Academy of Breast Feeding Medicine does not formally recommend a specific medication regimen for transgender patients due to lack of high-quality research.

Case Presentation: A 50-year-old transgender woman with a hypercoagulable disorder who was able to lactate and breastfeed with novel hormone regimen management at a gender care clinic. Her baseline hormone treatment was an estradiol 0.3 mg transdermal patch every 72 hours and micronized progesterone 200 mg daily.

Results: Within four weeks of initiating a modified hormone regimen (estradiol 0.4 mg patch every 72 hours, progesterone 300 mg daily, metoclopramide 10 mg three times daily), the patient was lactating spontaneously. On multiple occasions, she breastfed and expressed up to 30 mL of milk through pumping.

Conclusion: This report offers a new effective hormone regimen for transgender patients who wish to lactate and cannot access domperidone—the galactagogue used in previous case reports. It also provides a review of previously published case reports on this subject. Future research in this field should prioritize cohort studies of transgender patients who desire lactation to further assess patient attitudes, experiences, and outcomes.

Some more background on this:

https://x.com/millihill/status/1773343604678758886?s=20

The patient first expressed the unique desire to breastfeed her expected grandchild at an appointment with her endocrinologist in the spring of 2022. She disclosed that this was a last-minute idea that came to her very close to her daughter's due date. Her primary motivation for inducing lactation was to experience the bond from breastfeeding that she had not been able to experience with her own five children.

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Remember, by 7 days old an infant requires 65 ml per day and for what reason would a medical professional in a country with ample supplies of donor breast milk and milk substitutes induce a new born's grandparent to lactate to assist their daughter? That desire is a red flag right there!

https://www.babycentre.co.uk/x553873/how-much-milk-does-my-baby-need-in-the-first-few-days

How much breastmilk does my baby need in the first few days?

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https://www.babycentre.co.uk/x553873/how-much-milk-does-my-baby-need-in-the-first-few-days

roseyposey · Today 07:56

Absolutely sickening, literally.

Queer milk

Jesus wept and wept and wept some more at the very fuckery of messing around with the purest, most beautiful and natural way of feeding and bonding with newborn babies in the name of a selfish, nonsensical, fetishistic ideology.

Helleofabore · Today 07:58

On some previous threads, some posters have brought up what about women with PCOS and testosterone. Here is a study and some commentary on that issue, although to be fair, we rarely see that argument supporting these male people these days. Maybe the message got through...

https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/16/2/244/649618?login=false

I found a study that looked at the hormone levels in women breastfeeding. A breastfeeding women without PCOS has the following testosterone levels at 4 weeks and 8 weeks of breastfeeding :

Ng/ml
4th wk 0.13
8th wk 0.11

A woman with PCOS (ng/ml)
4th week 0.21
8th week 0.26

The male who fed exclusively for 6 weeks started with 0.205 ng/ml or that could have been 2.56 ng/mol because the data is contradictory. That was with the suppression drug that was not noted to change in dose throughout this period because it was not tested.

HOWEVER that suppression is known to be unreliable so the level of testosterone may have fluctuated during the feeding time. Plus of course, there may have been an interaction with the other drugs.

Here is a doctor's view on this study and male feeding.

https://lascapigliata.com/2018/03/26/analysis-of-study-of-induced-lactation-in-trans-identified-man/

"On presentation, the patient was on a gender-affirming regimen that included spironolactone (a heart medication used in this case as an androgen blocker), estradiol, micronised progesterone and “occasional” clonazepam and zolpidem for panic disorder and insomnia."

"At initial appointment, the patient had gynaecomastia (abnormally enlarged breasts in a man, Tanner stage V) that was likely a side effect of spironolactone and cross-sex hormones he was taking."

"Interestingly, it’s unclear what was the patient’s serum testosterone level, because two markedly different results were given, one in the body of text – 256 ng/dL – and another in the results table 1. – 20.52 ng/dL."

"This is problematic not only because it constitutes a glaring inconsistency within the report, but also because the higher result indicates that the patient had male testosterone levels. Considering that the study reported no further testosterone data, indicating that they didn’t measure his testosterone level at any other point in the study, and that 75% of trans-identified men on spironolactone fail to reach testosterone level in the female range, and those who augment the treatment with estradiol have variable response, there is no reliable evidence that adequate androgen blockade was achieved, even though authors claimed that androgen blockade was an important part of the regimen."

And it goes on.....

Well worth a read

75% of Transgender Women Fail to Suppress Testosterone

Testosterone suppression using spironolactone, the accepted US medical regimen, was insufficient in the vast majority of transgender women, according to a single-center cohort study.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/893280

roseyposey · Today 08:03

🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

Helleofabore · Today 08:03

Another male lactation paper
A recent case study.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s13006-024-00624-1

Case presentation
In this case a 37-year-old transgender woman, who was under the care of the centre of expertise on gender dysphoria in Amsterdam, and in 2020 started lactation induction because she had the wish to breastfeed her future infant. She was in a relationship with a cisgender woman and had been using gender affirming hormone therapy for 13 years.

Prior to initiating gender affirming hormone therapy she had cryopreserved her semen. Her partner conceived through Intracytoplasmic Sperm Injection, using our patient’s cryopreserved sperm.

To induce lactation, we implemented a hormone-regimen to mimic pregnancy, using estradiol and progesterone, and a galactogogue; domperidone. Our patient started pumping during treatment. Dosage of progesterone and estradiol were significantly decreased approximately one month before childbirth to mimic delivery and pumping was increased. Our patient started lactating and although the production of milk was low, it was sufficient for supplementary feeding and a positive experience for our patient.

Two weeks after birth, lactation induction was discontinued due to suckling problems of the infant and low milk production.

Conclusions
This case report underlined that lactation induction protocols commonly used for cisgender women are also effective in transgender women.

However, the amount of milk produced may not be sufficient for exclusive nursing.

Nevertheless, success of induced lactation may be attributed to its importance for parent-infant bonding, rather than the possibility of exclusive chestfeeding.

Lactation induction in a transgender woman: case report and recommendations for clinical practice - International Breastfeeding Journal

Background We present a case of non-puerperal induced lactation in transgender woman. Medical literature on lactation induction for transgender women is scarce, and the majority of literature and protocols on lactation induction is based on research in...

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/s13006-024-00624-1

Igneococcus · Today 08:03

AngleofRepose · Today 07:42

I'd like to hear John Swinney's answers to questions about this. In public. On record. Being filmed, so we can see his face as he answers.

He doesn't answer questions. I read the report from first minister's "question" time most Thursdays by Alex Massie in the Times and the common theme is JS huffing at the discourtesy of the opposition to ask questions.

MrsOvertonsWindow · Today 08:13

After years of all this I'm still shocked at how relentless the assault on safeguarding children is by advocates of transgenderism.
There seems no boundary that they won't breach is there?

Murraystreet · Today 08:15

In Scotland too and horrified (once again). This needs reporting wide and far.

AngleofRepose · Today 08:15

Igneococcus · Today 08:03

He doesn't answer questions. I read the report from first minister's "question" time most Thursdays by Alex Massie in the Times and the common theme is JS huffing at the discourtesy of the opposition to ask questions.

Just asking the question, "Do you approve of public funds being given a charity that attempts to assist men who think they are women to feed newborn babies chemically-laden secretions from their fake breasts?" and receiving no answer, and having that on camera would be worth a lot!

Igneococcus · Today 08:17

AngleofRepose · Today 08:15

Just asking the question, "Do you approve of public funds being given a charity that attempts to assist men who think they are women to feed newborn babies chemically-laden secretions from their fake breasts?" and receiving no answer, and having that on camera would be worth a lot!

Yes, good point. Like when Sturgeon was asked on camera about Isla Bryson and fluffed it.

roseyposey · Today 08:20

MrsOvertonsWindow · Today 08:13

After years of all this I'm still shocked at how relentless the assault on safeguarding children is by advocates of transgenderism.
There seems no boundary that they won't breach is there?

It seems that way @MrsOvertonsWindow

Feeding a baby is sacrosanct, the most sacrosanct of all human activities. In Scotland the government obviously doesn’t see it this way.

mrshoho · Today 08:24

MrsOvertonsWindow · Today 08:13

After years of all this I'm still shocked at how relentless the assault on safeguarding children is by advocates of transgenderism.
There seems no boundary that they won't breach is there?

In all these trials and experiments there is never any consideration whatsoever on the impact on the baby. There is no benefit to the infant yet why is the NHS supporting and funding the concept. Right in front of our eyes.

AngleofRepose · Today 08:25

https://lgbthealth.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/Safeguarding-Policy-April-2024.pdf

From LGBT Health and Wellbeing Safeguarding Policy, page 3

Definition of abuse
Child abuse as defined in Scottish Office guidance refers to circumstances where a child’s basic needs are not being met in a manner that is appropriate to his/her individual needs and stage of development and the child is, or will be, at risk through avoidable acts of commission or omission.
^^
Abuse has also been defined as the wrongful application of power by someone in dominant position. Whether abuse occurs in institutions or in the home, it involves the elements of a power imbalance, exploitation and the absence of full consent. It also involves acts of omission and commission.
[my bold]

DrBlackbird · Today 08:30

MrsOvertonsWindow · Yesterday 21:44

The fact that this is funded by the NHS shows yet again how the NHS employs some very dangerous adults at senior levels. Encouraging men with a fetish to experiment on babies is unforgivable,

It's also deeply misogynistic to enable these dodgy men to disrupt the mother baby relationship and undermine a new mother's attempts to establish breastfeeding. Which is no doubt part of the attraction.

This needs repeating ^ about the dual implications of fetishisation and misogyny.

is it about feeding the dysphoria?

Yes, obviously, but it is also much more than feeding ‘dysphoria’. It’s about feeding a purely male compulsion to dominate and destroy what women do naturally with their bodies whilst also feeding a sexual fetish.

That is what some men are compelled to do. Not really a surprise.

But it is beyond grotesque and enraging, indicative of the madness in the NHS, that these men are actively supported to abuse newborn infants in plain sight. The Left is heading to oblivion when no kink can be criticised and every disturbing male impulse is to be applauded and celebrated.

Edited to add: There seems no boundary that they won't breach is there? None. With the NHS cheering on from the sidelines.