Guardian: weaponised emotional blackmail from 14yo 'trans' athlete

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The Guardian's rearguard action on reality continues. Apparently the problem is not the parents and authorities who conspired to lie to this boy, coddle his delusions, disadvantage all girls around him in the service of his own wishful thinking etc etc etc: it's definitely the people who pointed it out:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/jun/17/trans-athlete-no-one-should-face-vicious-attacks

I am prepared to feel a little sorry for the kid, who couldn't have been exposed like this if the useful idiots around him had done their fucking jobs. But the Grauniad can fuck off with the tired 'beee kiiiind' shit as a solution. Been there, binned the t-shirt. We want our shit back.

The idea of some kind of brain and/or endocrine test to backup cross-sex gender feelings is often floated as if such a thing, should it exist, would be a benefit to people with cross-sex gender identities. I rather doubt it, quite the opposite is my guess.

Men who purport to want such a thing to validate their feelings, would obviously be pretty sad when it came up with "bog standard straight bloke"

"bog standard straight bloke" with naff taste

Yes I think it was “Translucent” who floated the idea of some groundbreaking science they said they had access to (sceptical on that, but moot point because it was never released) then had to swiftly backtrack due to TRA outrage (led by Katie Montgomerie ISTR) that at least some of their number might be invalidated by this transmedicalist approach, because a woman is anyone who says they are, right?

I was reminded of that little incident too (though you are much more on top of the details!)

Ultimately most of them know they aren't 'really' women and in many cases it's just a fetish. This would blow their cover completely.

Thanks :)

That's horrendous. Thanks for sharing.

"There are a lot of very, very intelligent women here, who posters like you, insult massively by telling us to have empathy and to be kind which avoids the real issue".

What a hideously arrogant post. Unlike yourself, other posters managed to engage in a discussion with me that didn't resort to such disgraceful insults. Who the hell do you think you are?

If you were so "very, very intelligent" (delusional btw!) you would, surely, have succeeded in recognising that I'm very new to this topic and you would have been capable of explaining your point (and perhaps explain something to me that I had not yet considered) without having to resort to such demeaning and entirely unnecesary language - as the vast majority of other posters engaging with me were able to do. Shame on you.

Wow - that is a massive overreation!

Please, read her post again. She didn't say you aren't intelligent. She didn't insult you.

There's a reason old-school forums and usenet groups used to have a FAQ.

If you are new to a topic, take the time to read some threads. Use the search. See if your perspective has been raised before. If you are new there's a good chance it has, many times, so actually it's kind of arrogant on your part to just jump in again with something that has been dicussed many times already,

I think true trans women exist
Those are generally very effeminate gay boys who aren't a threat to women. I have every sympathy for them as they have been harmed by this ideology more than women have. Mostly they lived quietly and tried to blend in

The biggest mistake was the TRA's getting involved and wanting to expand the definition of trans to include fetishists, agp's, cross dressers, furries and anyone who woke up one morning and decided to identify as female. Campaigning to open womens spaces to include the above and shaming/ threatening violence on any woman who protested has resulted in a massive back lash against trans rights. They pushed it too far. In their eyes anyone who doesn't look at this picture and afirm this person as female who we should be happy to get our knickers off in front of in the womens changing toom is a bigot. Any lesbian who isn't willing to include a trans woman in their dating pool is a genital fetishist. Gender non conforming people are more likely to be challenged as men claiming female identity are ignoring the ruling so anyone looking male in the womens loos could have problems

Women didn't start this. Tra's are the Nazi's here - they invaded Poland (aka the womens changing rooms)

I think true trans women exist
Those are generally very effeminate gay boys

That's not what "true trans" is, though? If they are gay boys, then they are not "true trans" women. "True trans", unless I understood it wrong, is pretty much the exact opposite: people who genuinely "feel like the opposite sex" instead of having more logical reasons to want to change sex, such as being gay, wanting to avoid male oppression for girls, being uncomfortable in their body because of neurodivergence, and so on.

I agree that the TRAs overshoot big time in the UK though. My own country is still massively captured, and I think the main reason is precisely that TRAs didn't make the same very public, very loud stink here as they did in the UK. Not to say that they are not being dangerous still, because they are if you dare to oppose them frontally.

@forgotmyusername1 How do you know that's not a woman? I mean, we keep being told it's hard/impossible to tell the difference 😉

I think true trans women exist

I think you mean that there are ways for men to pretend to be women that don't hurt women.

For example if they are gay they won't be looking at women in a sexual way in changing rooms or if they pass we wont know they are there. If we call some women it doesnt mean we have to include abusive men in the definition of woman.

This behaviour does harm women because it takes single sex spaces away from us, and what it is to be a woman.

A young gay man might be a victim of this ideology, but it isnt womens role to walk them through it, or to humour them until they see sense, if they ever do. The idea that women are everyone's mother, and men are children needing care is gender.

We cant say that some men are vulnerable to trans ideology, yet treat these men as if they are women, or different to any other man. Thats saying trans ideology is dangerous, but we are going to support it anyway.

I think true trans women exist
Those are generally very effeminate gay boys

Then they're not 'trans' they're just gay, 'trans' is a maladaptive copying mechanism for same sex attracted people who can't cope with being same sex attracted. They need help to comes to terms with what they are not have they're head filled with a load of bollocks which try's to change who they are.

'Trans' is the conversion therapy and should be banned.

You've clearly never come across the infamous "one drop rule". Maybe don't pontificate on the social construct that is race if you're this ignorant.