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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

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fromorbit · 02/05/2026 11:45

Zack Polanski is making things bigger yet again so another thread needed.

Well things have developed rather a lot since the start. ZP started out as being another sexist guy in politics - no shortage those around, but he thought he could take it to a new level and he proved he could do it.

The Green threads have followed his rise from the start of with the Hypnoboobs scandal and much more. There is also:

Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it, has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and is now encouraging people to sue the Green party if they attempt to stop them saying racist stuff.

The other deputy Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounding like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. Yet she is the least crazy when violence is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

Hypnoboobs scandal got worse recently when it became clear from BBC footage ZP actively believed in the Hypnoboobs thesis rather than being tricked into it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

Alongside all this there is constant ongoing attacks on biological reality from the party in interviews and in policy.

Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of antisemetic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.

The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power. The huge drama over a crazy motion which they were trying to pass against Israel at conference alongside a motion to prevent women having sports will surface again their September conference.

It seems likely after next week The Greens are going to be running a bunch of councils which doesn't bode well after their antics in Bristol.

Yet there is hope, in Bristol women are fighting back_: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued_

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, ( https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Greens internal drama warms up | Mumsnet

New long article looking at the drama inside the Greens over biology suddenly existing again despite their best efforts. *How the Green Party forgot...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

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1984Now · 10/06/2026 11:42

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 10/06/2026 10:45

Thanks for the link, it's hilarious, Count Binface gets my vote. I like the whole manifesto but points 6, 8 & 15 are the best. 😂

I loved the Monster Raving manifesto for my candidate in 2019.
Teenagers not allowed out in public after dark.
The Channel Tunnel to be perforated to provide a car wash en route to France.
Got my vote, chose not to vote for the liar Johnson.

fromorbit · 11/06/2026 14:36

Greens working on Foreign Policy apparently. Decisons to be made at the Autumn conference which is liable to be crazy.
https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/snchez-doctrine-greens-remaking-foreign-policy-offer

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fromorbit · 11/06/2026 16:02

Greens against unnecessary surgery for kids. Have they thought about this?

EXCL: The Green party is considering a new policy to ban circumcision, The Spectator can reveal.

The party’s Health Policy Working Group (HPWG) has launched a consultation seeking views on whether parents should only be allowed to consent ‘to an irreversible surgical procedure on a child if that procedure is medically necessary’.

Circumcision is an integral part of Judaism, with Jewish boys traditionally undergoing a ‘brit milah’ on the eighth day after birth.

Interestingly, the consultation on outlawing the practice was publicised specifically in a ‘Greens for Palestine’ WhatsApp group.
https://archive.is/oYQeF

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Chersfrozenface · 11/06/2026 16:09

Interestingly, the consultation on outlawing the practice was publicised specifically in a ‘Greens for Palestine’ WhatsApp group.

Um, circumcision is very widely practised in the Muslim world. It is almost universal amongst Palestinians.

Lalgarh · 11/06/2026 16:15

Little Zack has even been applauding the need for more defence spending and the "grave threat" the UK faces re: the defence secretary resigning.

I think that's his inner Lib Dem fighting to come out. I'm waiting for Zarah Sultana to say something suitably Batshit to restore my faith in the lotus eating left

DrBlackbird · 11/06/2026 22:36

Lalgarh · 11/06/2026 16:15

Little Zack has even been applauding the need for more defence spending and the "grave threat" the UK faces re: the defence secretary resigning.

I think that's his inner Lib Dem fighting to come out. I'm waiting for Zarah Sultana to say something suitably Batshit to restore my faith in the lotus eating left

He’ll say absolutely anything that he thinks will get him votes. I still do not understand how anyone has been taken in by this empty shell of soundbites.

DrBlackbird · 12/06/2026 18:00

impossibletoday · 12/06/2026 17:11

The problem with GenAI is that everyone can now write a letter that strings two sentences together that makes them look semi coherent. Shame really. Doesn’t stop them from going on and on though.

fromorbit · 13/06/2026 07:18

Green councillor forced to study Equality Act after cancelling authors
Helen Elliott-Boult compared gender-critical speakers to Holocaust deniers when justifying de-platforming

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/06/13/green-councillor-forced-to-study-equality-act/

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 13/06/2026 07:39

Sorry, I can't read the article the Archive Site I usually use is not working anymore.

ArabellaScott · 13/06/2026 07:57

Chersfrozenface · 11/06/2026 16:09

Interestingly, the consultation on outlawing the practice was publicised specifically in a ‘Greens for Palestine’ WhatsApp group.

Um, circumcision is very widely practised in the Muslim world. It is almost universal amongst Palestinians.

How long will the Greens mange to keep riding both horses? Next conference is going to be carnage.

hihelenhi · 13/06/2026 08:13

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 13/06/2026 07:39

Sorry, I can't read the article the Archive Site I usually use is not working anymore.

Edited

Me neither. Thought it was just me!

So who "forced" her to learn about the Equality Act? Obviously, I don't disagree with that, her behaviour towards Jo Bartosch and Rob Jessel was ridiculous and defamatory.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/06/2026 08:30

Seen Polanski’s comments about the Palestine Action terrorists being jailed, including a man who hit a policewoman with a sledgehammer for doing her job? Even worse than the last comment he made on it.

"Gut-wrenching to see four young people jailed for direct action against an arms supplier to Israel. Years in prison for protesting to save lives in Gaza, with 'terrorism' used despite no jury convicting them of it. A truly dangerous attack on the right to protest."

1984Now · 13/06/2026 08:46

hihelenhi · 13/06/2026 08:13

Me neither. Thought it was just me!

So who "forced" her to learn about the Equality Act? Obviously, I don't disagree with that, her behaviour towards Jo Bartosch and Rob Jessel was ridiculous and defamatory.

"charity digital inclusion manager" lol, how very 2026.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/06/2026 08:51

DrBlackbird · 12/06/2026 18:00

The problem with GenAI is that everyone can now write a letter that strings two sentences together that makes them look semi coherent. Shame really. Doesn’t stop them from going on and on though.

She’s quoting the discredited census figures to claim that London has the highest proportion of trans people. AFAICR it was improbably Newham.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 13/06/2026 08:54

Thanks for the new link, I was able to read the article.

I do love it when the 'educate yourself' brigade are forced to attend education training themselves. 😁

"Ms Elliott-Boult responded in a statement, saying: “The complaint was resolved under the informal resolution provisions. I will be completing the same SDC councillor training as all SDC councillors. At no point did I make negative comments about gender-critical views.”

Perhaps they could add something to the training about not lying, the only reason she would have put anything about Holocaust Denial in her tweet was so GC views would be seen negatively.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/06/2026 08:59

Yes, but I don’t think the ONS has fully taken them down, just caveated, which obviously she knows people aren’t likely to bother following the link to.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/06/2026 09:01

She looks EXACTLY what I expected before I saw her picture.

Lalgarh · 13/06/2026 09:17

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/06/2026 08:59

Yes, but I don’t think the ONS has fully taken them down, just caveated, which obviously she knows people aren’t likely to bother following the link to.

Yes re reading they've downgraded it to "experimental"

That telegraph article:

"...Stroud has become an unexpected battleground for debates over gender ideology in recent years. In 2025, local police treated graffiti that stated “men can’t be women” as a hate crime..."

I used to follow a twitter account dedicated to Argentine space Trotskyite Juan Posadas that based in Stroud. Ah proletarian democracy, where did you go.

https://jacobin.com/2020/04/j-posadas-argentina-trotskyism-ufos

The cancelled authors were going to talk about the impact of the porn industry rather than gender stuff. I guess it fired green synapses BC they'd likely also think Sex Work Is Work

J. Posadas, the Trotskyist Who Believed in Intergalactic Communism

From his hopes in human-dolphin socializing to his claims that UFOs were sent by alien communists, J. Posadas’s quixotic beliefs are today legendarized in countless memes. But a new biography suggests that the Argentinian Trotskyist was not such an out...

https://jacobin.com/2020/04/j-posadas-argentina-trotskyism-ufos

HenriettaSwanLeavitt · 13/06/2026 09:26

The cancelled authors were going to talk about the impact of the porn industry rather than gender stuff. I guess it fired green synapses BC they'd likely also think Sex Work Is Work

I've just finished reading their book, Pornocracy. It is an excellent, if deeply concerning read. Shame on the Greens for not wanting debate about an industry that is ruining the lives of so many children, women and men, and causing profound, long term harm at a societal level.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/06/2026 09:41

Lalgarh · 13/06/2026 09:17

Yes re reading they've downgraded it to "experimental"

That telegraph article:

"...Stroud has become an unexpected battleground for debates over gender ideology in recent years. In 2025, local police treated graffiti that stated “men can’t be women” as a hate crime..."

I used to follow a twitter account dedicated to Argentine space Trotskyite Juan Posadas that based in Stroud. Ah proletarian democracy, where did you go.

https://jacobin.com/2020/04/j-posadas-argentina-trotskyism-ufos

The cancelled authors were going to talk about the impact of the porn industry rather than gender stuff. I guess it fired green synapses BC they'd likely also think Sex Work Is Work

YY I don’t think their book has anything to do with the trans issue.

ArabellaScott · 13/06/2026 13:35

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/06/2026 08:30

Seen Polanski’s comments about the Palestine Action terrorists being jailed, including a man who hit a policewoman with a sledgehammer for doing her job? Even worse than the last comment he made on it.

"Gut-wrenching to see four young people jailed for direct action against an arms supplier to Israel. Years in prison for protesting to save lives in Gaza, with 'terrorism' used despite no jury convicting them of it. A truly dangerous attack on the right to protest."

My jaw was fully on the fucking floor with that.

Mask off.

fromorbit · 18/06/2026 10:44

ALERT
Major coverage of developments inside the Greens.

Jewish Chronicle report on the nasty debate between Jewish members and "anti-Zionists" in the Greens:

Explosive dossier that reveals escalating row between Jewish group and pro-Palestinian Greens
Email correspondence obtained by JC documents how heated debate over ‘Zionism is racism’ motion led to Jews being held to account for Israel’s actions, sparking calls for an investigation by equalities watchdog
https://www.thejc.com/news/politics/explosive-dossier-jewish-group-palestinian-greens-ww08pk4w

Meanwhile the Spectator reveals Mothin Ali is plotting against Zack.

EXCL: As Keir Starmer struggles to keep his crown, another leadership battle is raging. Away from the media spotlight, there is a struggle for the future of the Green party between its various official ‘Special Interest Groups’ and its leader, Zack Polanski.

On one side, Polanski and his officials are at least trying to appear to be dealing with allegations of anti-Semitism and extremism within the party. On the other, a powerful affiliate group, the Global Majority Greens (GMG), is accusing its leader of creating a ‘hierarchy of racism’, with allegations of anti-Semitism taken more seriously than other complaints.

Polanski, it claims, has failed to be truly anti-racist because he has not backed the ethnic-minority Greens who have been suspended over alleged anti-Jewish rhetoric. Most extraordinarily of all, it believes the Greens – yes, the Greens – are too pro-Zionist.

Crucially, the group is formally backed by Mothin Ali, who serves both as deputy leader of the party and GMG treasurer. Ali has endorsed official reports compiled by the GMG accusing Polanski of a litany of crimes against racial justice. In private WhatsApp groups, documents and Zoom calls leaked to The Spectator, Ali’s disdain for his boss’s conduct is plain.

Included in the leaks is a scathing draft GMG report that will be presented at the Green party AGM later this month. It accuses Polanski and his team of ‘performing anti-racism’ without putting it into practice. The report, which covers the first year of Polanski’s leadership, condemns a ‘serious governance problem inseparable from institutional racism’. Specifically, it criticises the party for suspending members accused of anti-Semitism – even though in most cases the evidence of anti-Semitism is clear-cut.
Article Plot against Zack Polanski:

https://archive.is/c7arr

This is reminiscent of elements of the drama which destroyed Your Party. Parties dominated by this brand of leftish identity politics and sexist nonsense cannot function effectively in modern Britain.

Get the popcorn out folks.

Explosive dossier that reveals escalating row between Jewish group and pro-Palestinian Greens - The Jewish Chronicle

Email correspondence obtained by JC documents how heated debate over ‘Zionism is racism’ motion led to Jews being held to account for Israel’s actions, sparking calls for an investigation by equalities watchdog

https://www.thejc.com/news/politics/explosive-dossier-jewish-group-palestinian-greens-ww08pk4w

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