Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

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Zack Polanski is making things bigger yet again so another thread needed.

Well things have developed rather a lot since the start. ZP started out as being another sexist guy in politics - no shortage those around, but he thought he could take it to a new level and he proved he could do it.

The Green threads have followed his rise from the start of with the Hypnoboobs scandal and much more. There is also:

Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it, has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and is now encouraging people to sue the Green party if they attempt to stop them saying racist stuff.

The other deputy Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounding like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. Yet she is the least crazy when violence is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

Hypnoboobs scandal got worse recently when it became clear from BBC footage ZP actively believed in the Hypnoboobs thesis rather than being tricked into it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

Alongside all this there is constant ongoing attacks on biological reality from the party in interviews and in policy.

Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of antisemetic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.

The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power. The huge drama over a crazy motion which they were trying to pass against Israel at conference alongside a motion to prevent women having sports will surface again their September conference.

It seems likely after next week The Greens are going to be running a bunch of councils which doesn't bode well after their antics in Bristol.

Yet there is hope, in Bristol women are fighting back_: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued_

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, ( https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Given the volatility of certain alternative Sex People setups (I'm sorry to have to reference the polycule again) it's highly possible that make trans couple are more violent towards each other.

I think it was Katie Herzog that looked at the claim trans were more subject to violence and found that it mainly applied in Latin America and was of a par with rates of violence for other males. Ie males: violence

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Sadiq Khan now trolling Polanski on his Urdu in the London assembly

Probably includes their wifes being less than thrilled or their parents expressing reservations. Or not going along with the radical rewriting of the past in which they claim to have always been trans.

Will Labour enforce the law on other parties and protect women?

Trans activists bullying us out of Lib Dems and Greens, say women
Campaign groups write to Bridget Phillipson alleging intimidation from pro-trans party members
Women in the Liberal Democrats and Green Party claim they have “been bullied out of their political home” by trans activists.
The Liberal Voice for Women and Green Women’s Declaration, have jointly written to Bridget Phillipson, the Minister for Women and Equalities, saying they have “experienced a sustained pattern of abuse, harassment, dehumanisation, intimidation and physical aggression” from “fellow members”.
The Liberal Voice for Women has also written to Sir Ed Davey, Lib Dem leader, about its concerns for women’s safety at the party’s annual conference in Brighton, which starts on Saturday.
The letter calls on Ms Phillipson to “condemn violence and intimidation against women in all political parties”.
It alleges that activists “largely run” the Lib Dems’s and Green Party’s internal complaints systems, and that aggressive pro-trans members “do not get held to account for their actions, leading to them being further emboldened”.

https://archive.is/3jEHR

Morally and in the wider political sphere it makes sense to protect women. Yet it means standing up to sexist forces in the unions and other places.

Labour are in a by election right now. Will they strike against the Greens or do nothing?

Kicking off inside the Greens. ZPy tried a power play and failed. Showdown incoming!

Polanski request to postpone Greens’ conference to focus on byelection refused by party
Exclusive: Leader understood to have wanted to concentrate on Holborn and St Pancras campaign in London but executive committee voted against plan
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/sep/18/zack-polanski-request-postpone-greens-conference-byelection-refused

This is going to get so excruciating for him then

For what it's worth Polly Toynbee thinks Labour might still lose it.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/sep/08/byelection-holborn-st-pancras-labour-green-party-defence-rent-north-sea-oil-burnham

They've actually picked a local candidate who seems well liked though

The Green campaign asks: “Why elect just another Labour MP, when a Green MP in parliament will challenge the government?” But this week Labour looks set to select not just “another Labour MP” but Sagal Abdi-Wali, Camden council’s leader and community organiser, popular with her party and a well-known dynamic force locally. Green criticism of Labour over Gaza comes up against a hijab-wearing Muslim woman who has spent years calming racial and religions tensions, and building relationships with many Jewish voters here, too. “If Greens stir up community antagonisms over Gaza,” she says to me, “that would be disgraceful”.

I wouldn't put it beneath Galloway to spend his main efforts attacking her rather than Polanski given his vitriol against Naz Shah in Bradford West.

I get the sense that he's trying to line up another job because he knows he's about to be sacked from the one he has.

He knows that some craziness from the conference is likely to be used against him in his campaign to become an MP and he doesn’t want any obstacles impeding his climb up the greasy pole of politics. It’s served him well as jointly providing a source of ready income and the attention he craves. And If he manages 5 years of being an MP I think he gets a nice pension. Incentives.

George Galloway stands in Holborn by-election

Guess he also wants the same thing as Polanski.

And in doing so splits the vote

Galloway is also chums with Farage. Due to his near legendary abilities to win the affections of vulnerable middle aged Muslim men, first from the Bangladeshi community in Bethnal Green then the Pakistani community in Bradford and Rochdale ( I mean really, you'd think they'd be insulated from this by their own clan politics) it's perfectly possible he'll try it again with the Somali/ Sudanese Arab community. He's said himself it's a misnomer that he's assumed to be left wing. It's just that the constituency he appeals to are the same ones the left chases and allies with

Someone should mention her name to the Arch B of Canterbury. She's got an award going begging and Sagal Abdi-Wali might be a genuinely worthy recipient.