Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

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Zack Polanski is making things bigger yet again so another thread needed.

Well things have developed rather a lot since the start. ZP started out as being another sexist guy in politics - no shortage those around, but he thought he could take it to a new level and he proved he could do it.

The Green threads have followed his rise from the start of with the Hypnoboobs scandal and much more. There is also:

Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it, has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and is now encouraging people to sue the Green party if they attempt to stop them saying racist stuff.

The other deputy Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounding like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. Yet she is the least crazy when violence is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

Hypnoboobs scandal got worse recently when it became clear from BBC footage ZP actively believed in the Hypnoboobs thesis rather than being tricked into it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

Alongside all this there is constant ongoing attacks on biological reality from the party in interviews and in policy.

Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of antisemetic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.

The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power. The huge drama over a crazy motion which they were trying to pass against Israel at conference alongside a motion to prevent women having sports will surface again their September conference.

It seems likely after next week The Greens are going to be running a bunch of councils which doesn't bode well after their antics in Bristol.

Yet there is hope, in Bristol women are fighting back_: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued_

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, ( https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

And yet, the hate speech aimed at those of us Women in GPEW was left totally unchecked, nay even totally supported by the ruling group!

But that is "somehow" different.

Wonder why?

This sounds interesting - must go and read about it.

I think a lot of luxury elite politics is all about what they want to happen to other people. Whilst their lives remain the same. It's easy to advocate for open borders when it's not your children being raped by immigrant men from countries where women and girls don't have human rights.

Here's a link to an archive of Baroness Falkner's article about antisemitism, in case it hasn't yet been linked. It's good. She's a courageous woman.

https://archive.ph/X0Pls

It's the same in my town, all the 'social justice' initiatives are all in one area, and that area ain't the leafy suburb area.

I would so love for the Global Left/Open Borders types to have all the 'inclusive' chickens come home to roost on their door steps for a change.

I don't mind there being a class aspect in politics - every party should try to look after its voters [1] - but there's something quite funny about the left-of-centre parties pretending to speak for the lower classes that they very obviously don't belong to. It's the Harriet Harmanisation of politics.

Mrs Thatcher used to ask every day what her government was doing for White Van Man. I have no problem with this approach to politics.

[1] Of course the latter-day Conservative Party was in government for 14 years and did bog all for its natural supporters. There's a moral to that story.

It was very noticeable in tonight’s news that the young people found guilty of breaking a policewoman’s back with a sledgehammer during a £1m vandalism spree were all middle class. They made a point of saying one was an Oxbridge graduate.

Luxury beliefs and luxury crimes, working class youngsters tend to have concerns much closer to home.

DeSantis sent people to Martha's Vineyard. They were quickly moved to a military base on Cape Cod.

www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-marthas-vineyard-desantis-flights-illegal-immigrants-sanctuary-destinations/

Newcastle greens have withdrawn support for 2 candidates, now, the day before the local elections.

https://nitter.net/treesey/status/2051783683510514176#m

Polanski is being interviewed on R4 Today by Nick Robinson later this morning as part of the party leader rounds. I can't actually remember if they did Ed Davey. He's successfully supplanted any media attention they'd normally get.

It's not clear if the candidate who uses the name Real Anne Frank is still standing though

Oooppps.

Zack Polanski falsely claimed to be British Red Cross spokesman
The Green Party leader was also not a full member of the National Council of Hypnotherapy despite making the claim to potential clients
They include his repeated assertion to have acted as a “spokesperson” for the British Red Cross, which he put on his site and two donation pages while running for deputy leader in 2022. The British Red Cross denied the claim, and the Green Party later said the reference was to Polanski hosting fundraisers for the charity.

It also emerged that Polanski was not a full member of the National Council of Hypnotherapy while working as a hypnotherapist, despite making such a claim to potential clients.
https://www.thetimes.com/article/029c673e-d114-41bf-8e8b-1b71f329db50?shareToken=3e00bfdaea64f9946c31b79443b1aad1

To be fair to ZP this will not affect his core vote it is like when Boris or Trump are caught lying. Charismatic guys can get away with things with followers.

However it is bad news when you need to appeal to a wider middle ground and one argument is that Farage is untrustworthy. It also marks a significant difference with Corbyn. He is often mistaken about stuff, or underplays his dubious allegiances, but he was never that deceitful.

Caroline Lucas
Statements that have now come to light from a handful of TheGreenParty
candidates are totally unacceptable & require immediate action. There’s no place for anti-semitism or any hate speech in the party. This is a society-wide problem & needs to be rooted out wherever it’s found

On the radio now. Says he was traumatized by the sight of the golders green attacker in handcuffs being restrained.

Though he has said the Jewish community is not safe now. Not merely a perception

"traumatized" lol. He needs to get out more.

Huge gain for the Greens. Crazy group switches sides.Over for YP.

The Revolutionary Communist Party abandons Corbyn only to embrace Zack Polanski’s Green Party
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/05/04/gjai-m04.html

Guardian on ZP's latest scandal

Zack Polanski falsely claimed to be British Red Cross spokesperson, charity says
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/05/zack-polanski-falsely-claimed-to-be-british-red-cross-spokesperson-charity-says

I’m enjoying the interview but simultaneously appalled that this man and his party will have an increasing role in British politics. It feels to me as though he’ll say anything in an interview including the opposite of what he’s previously said. And I can’t help but believe that he says things without meaning any of it. A Schrödinger politican. So slippery. Feels like an even more marked opportunistic power grab than the typical politician.

The times interview with him notes he's the first party leader to forged their leadership through identity politics rather than class

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/zack-polanski-i-want-to-talk-to-people-who-disagree-with-me-z9tt7shkj

.... through identity politics rather than class

I would say identity politics is all class, it's only the affluent and idle rich classes that are buying into it. Those who have nothing better to do with their time than cosplay revolutionaries on the one side and grievance politics on the other. The Green's are manipulating jealousy and resentment, telling the Big Lies in order to get people to vote for them, they don't care about the problems ethnic communities have, they just using them to get power.

It will bite them on the arse because it's been done before and those that end up in power afterward always turn on those they used to get it.

If only they had paid attention to history before they rewrote it. 😱
Stupid fuckers.

It's so clear he's a grifter. Anyone believing anything he says or any promises he makes at this point must have their head in the sand.

One of the best things Robert Crampton has written IMO.

I knew Robert back in the day when I was helping to set up, and living at, a peace camp outside of an American base in High Wycombe, in the early 1980s. He used to visit regularly ( wearing his red and white shemag/keffiyeh). Comes from a solidly Labour activist family in Hull, but now living in Hackney, which the Greens have a chance of taking on Thursday.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/local-election-results-uk-2026-jewish-antisemitism-farage-polanski-pzqnqq2m0

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The Green Party is so far from what it was when I originally joined, decades ago, that I now have a positive aversion to it.

I've just seen that if you go to your 'account' details there is a listing for 'Bonus Accounts' you seem to be able to share from there.

But I'll also give your method a go......thanks!

Like so many on here I’m a politically homeless leftie. No election in my area tomorrow but I was musing on who I’d vote for if there was a GE on Thursday. Our current MP is Labour, from the area, lives in the constituency, sensible and moderate, and responsive to constituents. Ticks all my boxes on what I’d want for an MP, except for the national state of Labour. Sadly under threat from the Reform vote at the next election.

Looking at the national levels of all the parties, the only one that sounds sensible on anything at the moment is the conservatives. And I increasingly like Kemi. I’ve always thought it will have to be a cold day in hell for me to put a cross in a box against the Tory party, but now it’s looking more like “never say never”.

I strongly suspect that at the next election it will be a Green v Reform in my constituency. I’ve voted tactically in the past when living elsewhere (lib dems) but never had the situation where it’s anyone but the two leading candidates.

Gotta say, you may not agree with Zia Yusuf on much, but he's about the most entertaining person in UK politics right now