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Helen Webberley v Robbie Starbuck . . . WOW!! 😂

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POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 24/11/2025 23:12

I have watched all the recent Webberley interviews . . . this one is a doozy!!

Robby Starbuck Vs. Pro Trans Doctor: Debate On Child Transitions!

Robbie Starbuck cool as a cucumber and totally unfazed by Webberley's almost continuous unhinged ranting 😂🤣

In previous interviews I thought that she was feigning ignorance. I am not so sure now. Otherwise, she has really jumped the shark by claiming never to have heard of Marci Bowers, at the same time banging on about WPATH as the fount of all knowledge!

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Boiledbeetle · 25/11/2025 20:49

She's never heard of transage. (Or furries and therians it seems)

I call bullshit. Of course you have Helen, but even you realise that's a paedophile nightmare waiting to happen , but how you dare tell a 46 year old who thinks He's 6 and wears a diaper that he's making it up! Some trans ally you are Helen

Boiledbeetle · 25/11/2025 20:59

HW"...I see so they're autistic then they were socially contaged and then they turned trans and then they decided they weren't trans. But but like what? Like, bollocks. "

Oh Helen.

Alucard55 · 25/11/2025 21:04

I agree with @hamstersarse as great as Joyce, Bindel and Gold are I don't think they pushed her enough. I feel there was far too much time spend on what age children are given puberty blockers which then led to long discussions about how children go throw puberty at different ages. As important as it is, couldn't they just say young teenagers, children about to enter puberty or something to that effect.

There was also far too much time taken up with things being explained to HW. Things that she very clearly knows. 2 examples, who Riley Gaines is and what a biological woman is. To be fair JB did say come on Helen you're a medical doctor you know what a woman is.

I was also hoping someone would be firmly say no they are not women they are men and repeat repeat repeat. I do think the Robbie interview was great.

Boiledbeetle · 25/11/2025 21:05

I've just got to the bit where he brings up girls in US schools toilets getting raped by boys claiming to be transgirls.

You can literally see steam coming out of Helen's ears!! She is seemingly disgusted that he is bringing the subject up at all and especially disgusted that he is raising his daughters to understand the very real fact that men can rape women.

What the fuck Helen? you need to seriously reflect on your life choices.

Alucard55 · 25/11/2025 21:10

I said earlier absolutely no compassion or understanding for women and girls who have been victims of male violence/sexual violence. She is disgusting.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 25/11/2025 21:10

If anyone hasn't watched this yet, there is a helpful list of Chapters in the Video Description to dip in if you can't bear too much of Webberley all in one sitting - or want to systematically count the fibs, dubious claims and utter batshittery!

For example, in "Orgasm, fertility & other side effects": Webberley is not a practicing GP but claims that she is having detailed conversations with people about their sex lives and their orgasms pre and post genital surgery.

We know from previous Tribunal Findings that her contact with these patients as a GP was usually cursory and a mad dash to the cash register, so this does not ring true. If is is true, under what pretext would she be having these conversations?

Despite her attempts to portray everyone who has been involved in this series of interviews as both prudish and depraved at the same time, IMHO she comes over as having a prurient interest in other people's sex lives in the way she recounts the conversations she claims to have had.

Overall, I was left wondering if the response from her past and potential customers might be similar to the attack on Susie Green when she was deemed to be damaging to The Cause, ie. a call for Gender GP to be handed over to be "Trans Led" and the Webberleys to be put out to grass.

– Intro - Helen Webberley debate – Why is she expanding to the US? – Are critics of child transition “bigots”? + Riley Gaines dispute – Men in women’s locker rooms – “Some women have a penis” and clash over science, consent + language – Do trans identities really exist? – Is being transracial or trans species really different from transgender? – Gender dysphoria vs. changing sex; chromosomes discussion – Addressing Detransitioners – Brain development for kids who decide to transition, impulse control and more – Orgasm, fertility & other side effects – Helen claims Robby’s views are harming trans people 🥴🙄 – Free speech vs. “hate” and should such views be banned? – How can a child consent to this? – Cass Review discussion and countries restricting or banning transitions for kids – Can a Brazilian butt lift be gender affirming care? Where is the line drawn? – Helen attempts elitist talking point – Helen argues we must validate trans experiences, Robby asks how she applies that to 45 yr old men who identify as 6 years old – What is a male/What is a woman? – Biological differences and Helen compliments Robby’s appearance… 😳😬 – Are trans identifying people disadvantaged by society? + social contagions – Why does this bother Robby so much? – Protecting daughters, bathroom assaults at schools and the bathroom issue – Autogynephelia – How quickly does she believe drugs should be given and how parents should deal with a confused child… – Argument over conversion therapy – Debate over World Health Org, “mental illness” classifications, and COVID – Helen’s stated goal for the US and Robby’s closing critique – Robby’s final words on risk, evidence, and “protecting kids”

To get an idea of who Webberley was taking on when she decided it would be a good idea to debate Robbie Starbuck . . .

In October he sued Google. These are the opening paragraphs of the law suit:

  1. For nearly two years, one of the largest companies in the world – Google – has spread radioactive lies about Robby Starbuck through its AI products. When users submit queries to Google’s AI platforms about Mr. Starbuck, they receive a “biography” that is outrageously false, whereby Mr. Starbuck is portrayed as (among other things) a child rapist, a serial sexual abuser convicted of assault, one who engages in financial exploitation, one who engages in ‘black ops’ tactics such as illegal campaign finance practices, and a shooter – in short, as a monster. These lies continue today.
  1. The real Mr. Starbuck is a filmmaker, journalist, and activist. He is a devoted father, husband, and Christian with an impeccable public record, which is remarkable given the years he has spent in the public eye as an advocate, including on controversial matters.
  1. When asked to verify its wild outputs about Mr. Starbuck, Google’s AI fabricates “sources” out of whole cloth, including by inventing “articles” that were never written and attributing them to real journalists.
  1. Google’s AI freely concedes that “the false statements were presented as factual and could cause significant harm to Starbuck’s reputation, character, and potentially his safety.” Indeed, Google’s AI has admitted that “Google, as the developer and provider of this service, is likely the party that would be legally responsible for my defamatory statement. They could be sued for defamation by Robby Starbuck.”

Video on this page as well as the full document:
https://robbystarbuck.com/google/

Why would Google do that?? 🤔

What Robbie Starbuck and his wife, Landon, are known for is campaigning for child protection.

They made a documentary called "The War on Children"
https://thewaronchildren.com/

"The War on Children features whistleblowers, leftists caught on camera, survivors of child mutilation, trafficking victims, corporate executives exposing the plan to sexualize children, the creator of Libs of TikTok, Senator Rand Paul, Riley Gaines, a Drag Performer, Pornhub’s Sex Ed Instructor, and many more."

They have got a campaign website called "Freedom Forever".
freedomforever.us/

"Freedom Forever is an American non-profit organization dedicated to protecting children from abuse, trafficking and exploitation in all forms."

"The demand to abuse and exploit children has never been greater. There are many organizations dedicated to the rescuing of children but few working to stop this epidemic before a child needs to be rescued. While rescuing kids is good and necessary, it doesn’t address or solve the epidemic of child sexual abuse, exploitation and trafficking."

"Our prevention strategy work has reached 10+ MILLION Americans on social media and given them tangible actions they can take to prevent abuse and exploitation."

"FreedomForever.us partners with a number of organizations such as the Paradox Institute, an organization that teaches about the differences in biological and psychological differences between males and females as well as the myths of gender affirming care."

One of their Missions is to "End Child Mutilation"

"The medical exploitation of children, radical gender ideology and so called “gender affirmative care” have already devastated thousands of lives.
We’re committed to exposing the horrific truth about these dangerous, experimental and exploitive medical practices. We have been leading the charge to end child sex changes in Tennessee and at the national level. Our education and activism have helped save many children from the dangerous path of lifelong medical dependency, chemical castration, sterility and irreversible sex change operations. We work hard to combat the rampant disinformation by educating the public, mobilizing community activism and amplifying the voices of Survivors."

"The Social Contagion of Transitioning Children is not only undeniable, it’s Much Worse Than We Thought: Freedom Forever’s investigative team uncovered the alarming reality inside the largest online group of Trans Moms."

https://freedomforever.us/missions/child-mutilation/

Reporting other investigations:

Vanessa Sivadge Blows Whistle on Gender Clinic in Texas: Children Are Not Experiments
In an interview for Freedom Forever, Vanessa Sivadge—a former nurse at Texas Children’s Hospital (TCH)—shared her experiences and disturbing allegations about the hospital’s secretive gender clinic, a clinic that operated within the hospital’s endocrine clinic. Among the illegal practices she observed were deceptive diagnostic practices and fraudulent Medicaid billing, toward the goal of medically transitioning vulnerable children ages 13-17.

https://freedomforever.us/vanessa-sivadge-blows-whistle-on-gender-clinic-in-texas-children-are-not-experiments/

Robbie and Landon Starbuck are right wing Christians, which I understand means that they are supposed to be bankrolling UK TERFs but I've looked everywhere and I can't find a cent let alone a dollar!

If anyone is interested in some of their political work, this is an Act they are proposing for the State of Tennessee (I don't know what has happened to it):

CHILDHOOD PROTECTION & RESTORATION ACT (CPR ACT)

"These bullet points below are the key points that need to be addressed in a bill that will end the sexualization of children and attacks on childhood that so many Tennesseans are concerned about. This bill will set the standard for the nation! If you’re in another state, we encourage you to email it to your state legislators or print it and bring it to meet with them!"
https://freedomforever.us/missions/cpr/

Relevant bullet points wrt Webberley:

Problem 3: We have a major problem in America with children being transitioned with hormones, puberty blockers and even given mastectomies or hysterectomies to change their sex. This is wildly inappropriate, filled with potential dangers and downright abusive. Right here in Tennessee Vanderbilt is unfortunately at the cutting edge of this practice to destroy children’s futures by encouraging them to change their gender via Vanderbilt Pediatric Gender Clinic. Information on Vanderbilt’s gender clinic for kids can be found HERE.

Solution 3: The bill from last session banning hormone treatment for prepubescent children didn’t go far enough. In fact, almost no children if any were protected by it. The incidence of a child receiving hormones before Tanner stage II is almost non-existent. We must go further and set the standard. We can do that by using similar language to the last bill but amend the age to ban the following for anyone under the age of 18: puberty blockers or hormone treatments for the purpose of transitioning one’s sex or treating gender dysphoria, so called gender affirming care that actively encourages children to change their gender and surgeries that would be described by a reasonable person as being for the purpose of changing one’s sex.

Maybe this is why Webberley came out with her fists up, flailing the air from the very start of the interview?

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plantcomplex · 25/11/2025 21:38

Having watched her astonishing behaviour all the way through to the end, I have to agree with his description of her as wicked.

It is sad that she doesn't have anyone who cares about her enough to explain how poorly she came across behaving that way. Her reaction to the case of rape was atrocious.

Helleofabore · 25/11/2025 22:05

I would agree Bindel, Joyce, Gold and Starbuck didn’t push where they could have.

However, the firing of verbiage that is delivered is to prevent that. It would have been very difficult without a team of producers feeding questions through earwig things to direct those questions in a timely manner.

The verbiage is a verbal gish gallop to prevent discussion about a specific sub topic that someone wishes to avoid discussion.

Webberley lost control at the end but it also was to stop more questions. She seems good at controlling her answers. It is not going to matter much having push back , I think, except seeing her avoid answering.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 25/11/2025 22:24

To be fair to all the people in these interviews and debates who have attempted to hold Webberley to account, I don't think we will see anyone succeed outside of a court of law when she is on the witness stand being questioned by one of our favourite barristers.

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JanesLittleGirl · 25/11/2025 23:15

I have visions of Mrs Merton interviewing Dr. Webberly: "So Dr. Webberly, when were you first attracted to the vast sums of money that could be made from gender conflicted children?'

Owly11 · 26/11/2025 00:08

I think one thing RS did that was very effective was raise the issue of freedom of speech by asking HW whether she felt people who had views like his should be shut down, to which she basically answered initially that he shouldn't be allowed to have those views (!!!) but then backtracked and said that he was allowed them but he shouldn't use his platform to broadcast them and that yes she would shut him down if she could. RS then asked if she could recall a time in history when someone trying to shut down someone else's views was the good guy. I think it was a very helpful angle to take and not one that was particularly prominent in the other three interviews.

Gettingmadderallthetime · 26/11/2025 08:44

Owly11 · 26/11/2025 00:08

I think one thing RS did that was very effective was raise the issue of freedom of speech by asking HW whether she felt people who had views like his should be shut down, to which she basically answered initially that he shouldn't be allowed to have those views (!!!) but then backtracked and said that he was allowed them but he shouldn't use his platform to broadcast them and that yes she would shut him down if she could. RS then asked if she could recall a time in history when someone trying to shut down someone else's views was the good guy. I think it was a very helpful angle to take and not one that was particularly prominent in the other three interviews.

I also liked his point that trans affirmation was conversion therapy!

borntobequiet · 26/11/2025 08:45

Gettingmadderallthetime · 26/11/2025 08:44

I also liked his point that trans affirmation was conversion therapy!

Especially as it really riled her, once her brain caught up with the point he was making.

elgreco · 26/11/2025 08:47

She is a total liar.

Owly11 · 26/11/2025 08:49

Gettingmadderallthetime · 26/11/2025 08:44

I also liked his point that trans affirmation was conversion therapy!

Yes!!! It's something i have been screaming inside every time i hear thoughtful, decent talking therapy referred to as conversion therapy. Finally someone named it and called out the bullshit, crazy making distortion of reality.

elgreco · 26/11/2025 08:50

Never heard of Riley Gains, Marci Bowers, trans age, furries, v young kids being medicated and operated on.....

Rightsraptor · 26/11/2025 09:08

Thank you for this thread, OP, you've done a fair bit of work there so we can see the sections of the interview succinctly - very helpful. I was thinking we need a group of Webberley Watchers to analyse her batshittery, but there's quite a lot to analyse ...

For instance, I noticed in both the Andrew Gold and Robby Starbuck interviews that HW raises the issue of bringing up girls to fear men. Does she do this with female interviewers or female co-interviewees? I suspect it is one of her tactics.

I'm also interested in her refusal to discuss Mike Webberley and his being struck off the medical register. Nobody wants to talk about him as her husband but they do as her co-worker and what he was doing in that role. She should be pressed on that.

Then there are the obvious lies & contradictions. Yep, there's a lot to look at with HW.

Greyskybluesky · 26/11/2025 09:30

For instance, I noticed in both the Andrew Gold and Robby Starbuck interviews that HW raises the issue of bringing up girls to fear men.

Yes, I noticed this too. It's something that trans campaigners like to do and we also see this attitude from ploppers on here.

"So you're scared of men?"
I'm a woman and I'm not scared of men"
"I don't walk around being scared and cowering [yes someone did use that word once] from men"

It's a way of ridiculing women as weak and fearful.
It's a way of saying "Look at me! I'm not like the other girls".
It's a way of saying "I don't spend my whole life fearing every man I meet".
It's a way of saying "But I'm equal to men. Why would I be scared of them?" [but then walking the brightly lit main road home at night with their keys in their hand]

I don't know many women who are actually scared of men as a class. The ones that are have good reason to be - trauma, abuse.
But I know a lot of women who don't want to share space and facilities with men.

Women can be wary of men because they are generally bigger and stronger.
And the ones that insist on their right to be in women's spaces and facilities are precisely the ones women don't want in there.

BruisedNeckMeat · 26/11/2025 10:55

I agree that although overall these have been excellent interviews, there have been moments I’ve been shouting at the screen when they weren’t pushing hard enough.

Andrew Gold, in particular, always uses the line “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” which is perfectly applied to this debate. He didn’t use it!

The claim that a child is female despite all the actual, hard evidence (their male body) indicating the opposite is an absolutely extraordinary claim. HW’s woolly nonsense about them “knowing who they are” is not extraordinary evidence.

Anyway, I don’t want to be too critical of the interviews because they certainly did expose her utter madness.

flyingbuttress43 · 26/11/2025 11:24

I used to think she was just evil and out to make money. After these latest interviews I now believe she is evil but is actually deluded. If so, nothing anyone can argue will get through to her because she has removed herself completely from reality. I think these two truths - evil and delusion - can exist together.

FictionalCharacter · 26/11/2025 11:44

Helleofabore · 25/11/2025 09:23

I agree that she came across as manically trying to convince on this interview. I think she may not know enough of this man to take the same tone as the others, and I suspect a much wider and larger audience and US centred audience so therefore more important to her.

Gone was that mocking superior smile and attitude.

I wonder also whether she’s seen some of the responses to her other recent interviews, has realised this isn’t working as a self-promotion strategy and that people can see through her. Which has made her even more desperate and angry, so she’s making herself look worse and worse.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 26/11/2025 14:03

I'm watching this one now and it's my favourite. Webberley is obviously rattled from the start for some reason. As others have noted it's great the way he lets her rant on. She is just coming across as much less rational, and much less in control than the previous interviews.

Helleofabore · 26/11/2025 14:31

FictionalCharacter · 26/11/2025 11:44

I wonder also whether she’s seen some of the responses to her other recent interviews, has realised this isn’t working as a self-promotion strategy and that people can see through her. Which has made her even more desperate and angry, so she’s making herself look worse and worse.

Yes. The ending was akin to her slamming her laptop lid down while in the middle of the interview. She just rambled on over the top of the interviewer and to be fair, he did the same effectively.

It was very enlightening and very much disproved her attempt to portray herself as knowledgeable and kind and tolerant.

JamieCannister · 26/11/2025 14:45

elgreco · 26/11/2025 08:50

Never heard of Riley Gains, Marci Bowers, trans age, furries, v young kids being medicated and operated on.....

Just searched - 11th October 2022, WPATH fan Webberley tweeted -

‘We toil while on the right side of history—we all know that. Please do not be afraid to say so.’

WPATH President Marci Bowers - A Message to Members https://listloop.com/wpath/mail.cgi [link now broken]

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 26/11/2025 15:03

Dobbed her in to Marci Bowers 🤭

Though MB does not seem to be very active on X

https://x.com/POWLizPanton/status/1993695388017250536

Helen Webberley v Robbie Starbuck . . . WOW!! 😂
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