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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Helen Webberley v Robbie Starbuck . . . WOW!! 😂

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POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 24/11/2025 23:12

I have watched all the recent Webberley interviews . . . this one is a doozy!!

Robby Starbuck Vs. Pro Trans Doctor: Debate On Child Transitions!

Robbie Starbuck cool as a cucumber and totally unfazed by Webberley's almost continuous unhinged ranting 😂🤣

In previous interviews I thought that she was feigning ignorance. I am not so sure now. Otherwise, she has really jumped the shark by claiming never to have heard of Marci Bowers, at the same time banging on about WPATH as the fount of all knowledge!

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POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 24/11/2025 23:34

"What gives you the right to champagne it from your platform?!"

She has totally lost it!!

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spannasaurus · 25/11/2025 00:19

This is what he said about her on x

"But first, I have to say, after talking with Helen, I believe that Helen is not only evil but of a significantly inferior intelligence. For a doctor* to not know simple brain science and biology is mind boggling. Her disconnect from reality is both frightening & fascinating. How she talks about
@RileyGaines
, rape victims, detransitioners and kids is just absolutely vile."

Riley Gaines (@Riley_Gaines_) on X

Host of Gaines for Girls podcast on Outkick | Best-selling Author | TPUSA contributor

https://x.com/Riley_Gaines_

Datun · 25/11/2025 00:58

I'm only halfway in and she's coming across as absolutely fucking insane.

I don't know why this interviewer has rattled her so much, but she's babbling

Datun · 25/11/2025 00:59

It wouldn't surprise me if there wasn't some kind of executive order that kicked out of the country entirely.

GwenniMcKinney · 25/11/2025 03:53

this has to be her at her most unhinged

Helleofabore · 25/11/2025 06:36

I am half way through and it is the same pattern as the rest of them.

-the distraction into pedantry about language, claiming that it is vital to use the correct language and over exaggerating the point to waste time. The issue is that she interrupts constantly and the discussion doesn’t move forward.

-in her approach to educate, she only falls back on her own selective anecdotal evidence (she might understand that published evidence would get analysed and found low standard). It would seem to be very limited because Gender GP will not be tracking their patients to know which customers dropped off due to finding alternative source vs destransitioning. Meaning she refuses to talk about detransitioner claiming there are so few. **

-she denies knowing who people
are which comes across as very dishonest considering how important they are to the discussion and to policy changes. Eg Marci Bowers, Riley Gaines

-she comes across as being focused on being ‘kind’ and evidence based, yet claims to not have read the very commonly discussed studies.

-she also cannot apply logic because maybe she is a true believer and is entirely convinced by superficial platitudes or maybe she knows logic cannot be applied so she is falling back on emotional reasoning.

-she really talks so quickly that it is hard to take everything in and it becomes just noise when the moderator or interviewer is pacing their speech to be understood. This adds to the disordered feel to her arguments.

-on this interview she resorts to making unreasonable accusations and it highlights Starbuck’s attempts to communicate to move the interview along, to find common ground and generally her contribution comes across as high speed, rapid hand movement ranting.

maybe she read the comments about her smile because she wasn’t smiling on this one. Maybe she realised that the audience for this channel has massive numbers being the US market and this one was so important to get right.

In this interview, she came across as completely scattered and discombobulated. I understand she is probably exhausted by the repetition. But this one would have to be considered a fail for building any credibility at all. She couldn’t even claim to be a victim in any way.

She admitted she came on to educate him on language and attitude. To tell him how wrong he was but didn’t have much by way of evidence to support her own opinions.

Unfortunately for her, she has come across as being uninformed by not knowing the people mentioned and her weak attempt at mockingly dismissing people’s attempts at understanding the concept of gender identity via comparisons, and her complete ignorance about child treatment plans for the USA, including the numbers of USA child surgeries.

How the fuck is she supposed to now sell a service when this interview highlights how little she has read or listened to understand what is happening to these children in the USA? This was a failure of an interview in many ways.

** apparently there are ‘so few’ detransitioners yet as a society we are supposed to fully support and acknowledge the experiences of less than a percent of the population. This inconsistency never gets explained.

Alucard55 · 25/11/2025 07:27

Agree with @Helleofabore this nonsense of pretending she doesn't know who people are. She doesn't know who Riley Gaines is, then she thinks Riley Gaines is a "trans women" it is so fake. Then it turns into a complete waste of time where RS is trying to explain the RG situation and HW repeatedly interrupts. If we are seeking to truly understand what is going on here it is our duty to educate ourselves and listen to the different voices on this matter but that doesn't apply to HW it seems.

I've only watched 15 minutes of this one and after watching the other 3 I really don't know if I can stomach any more of HW. There is something about her I can't quite put my finger on. I won't say she's evil but there is something very very off about this woman.

moderate · 25/11/2025 07:41

I got as far as “identifying as female is different from identifying as black because you can’t identify as black whereas you can identify as female” before giving up. I don’t understand how anyone is taken in for even a millisecond by this idiotic sociopath.

ProfessorRedshoeblueshoe · 25/11/2025 07:52
Thank U GIF

Thank goodness you have all watched it, so I don't have to.

Rightsraptor · 25/11/2025 07:55

I'd urge you to give it another listen @moderate when you can steel yourself. HW does herself no favours at all.

I find her use of the expression 'nipple function' in this non-medical setting rather chilling. She's actually talking about sensitivity, but it just jars with me & she says it a few times. Weird.

Starbuck appears to be winding her up like a clockwork toy and she just goes off, banging her drum. And that's only half an hour in.

BettyFilous · 25/11/2025 08:11

I’m only a few minutes in and Webberley has already given the game away by talking about “US customers”. Not patients. Customers.

Soontobe60 · 25/11/2025 08:18

I’ve tried to watch it but have had to give up. I got as far as ‘you can’t banish all females who have a penis from a female changing room…’
Having watched most of the other 3 interviews, I am not a psychiatrist but I can safely assert that HW is mentally unwell with some kind of personality disorder and should be absolutely nowhere near any person who’s claiming to be the opposite sex. I’d love someone to do an analysis of this latest interview to count how many times she interrupts the interviewer. She really is bonkers.

borntobequiet · 25/11/2025 08:30

Pleased to see this with a thread of its own. I can only watch it in bits, well spaced apart.
She’s raving.

Webberley has nicely timed her interviews as a sort of counterpoint to the NHS puberty blocker trial being announced, to emphasise the sort of people who think puberty blockers are a good idea.

Gettingmadderallthetime · 25/11/2025 08:35

Rightsraptor · 25/11/2025 07:55

I'd urge you to give it another listen @moderate when you can steel yourself. HW does herself no favours at all.

I find her use of the expression 'nipple function' in this non-medical setting rather chilling. She's actually talking about sensitivity, but it just jars with me & she says it a few times. Weird.

Starbuck appears to be winding her up like a clockwork toy and she just goes off, banging her drum. And that's only half an hour in.

Also agreeing it's well worth a listen. He is clear that this is unedited and he often keeps quiet and listens while she rants on and on with an expression in his face like ... 'oh, let's give her more rope on this. Oh, this is too good to interrupt, oh, how bad can this get, let's see?'. He is very well prepared and polite and not interrupting much. Which works well to showcase her claims. Never heard of him before but he is a good interviewer for unhinged maniacs it seems.

Shedmistress · 25/11/2025 08:42

She thinks the brain is fully developed in utero.

I mean, Christ on a Bike.

Someone IS going to get through at least one of these with each of her points aren't they? I like that Robbie's team flashed up loads of counter points as she was ranting.

Her points are exactly like so many TRAs on here though aren't they? Word for word.

OldCrone · 25/11/2025 08:48

This was quite a contrast from the other interviews/debates. With Bindel, Joyce and Gold she was calm and smiling. In this one, right from the start, she seemed rattled and aggressive.

Alucard55 · 25/11/2025 09:00

Watched in full. She is a nutter but a very dangerous nutter. Agree with PP this was very different from the previous 3 she was rattled for some reason.

She doing so much harm for the people she says she's fighting for.

Shortshriftandlethal · 25/11/2025 09:06

GwenniMcKinney · 25/11/2025 03:53

this has to be her at her most unhinged

Her whole life and public persona has been built on this blind faith and she simply will not contenance any questioning of it. And in order to preserve this blind faith she is able to contort and wilfully distort her thinking processes in order to bring them back into line with this blind faith.

She's completely on the edge and so incredibly susceptible to total collapse. She can only keep going through manic possession.

Helleofabore · 25/11/2025 09:19

There are plenty of nonsensical parts to this interview.

The bit about nipples losing some sensitivity is weird. When women are reporting no sensitivity at all or they now don’t get them sewn back on.

She blew away credibility in trying to dismiss the loss of orgasm too. Not only by not acknowledging it as a major side effect, which she has to downplay so as not to scare patients off, but then banged on about listening to trans people. While not then acknowledging Marci Bowers as not only a trans person who is a gender clinician doing surgeries, but also a senior WPATH executive.

The twitter interaction where Webberley called Riley Gaines a bigot was almost comical in how she denied knowing who Riley was. It showed either she is ok to call just anyone a bigot if she feels inclined or she is lying thinking it makes her superior not knowing who these people are.

But it shows just how disconnected she is to the political side of this issue and that is fine except she also is not knowledgeable about the evidence side either.

Helleofabore · 25/11/2025 09:23

I agree that she came across as manically trying to convince on this interview. I think she may not know enough of this man to take the same tone as the others, and I suspect a much wider and larger audience and US centred audience so therefore more important to her.

Gone was that mocking superior smile and attitude.

lifeturnsonadime · 25/11/2025 09:26

Well that was a watch and a half.

Why does she keep telling him he's handsome half way through?

She's totally unhinged.

Helleofabore · 25/11/2025 09:30

lifeturnsonadime · 25/11/2025 09:26

Well that was a watch and a half.

Why does she keep telling him he's handsome half way through?

She's totally unhinged.

What the fuck? I haven’t got to that yet. That seems very strange behaviour.

WTFAustraliaThisIsWhatHappensHereNow · 25/11/2025 09:34

Given her dubious past, would she be permitted into the US? Or would she have to set up remotely?

Also - some people can be confused about being able to change sex or the impact of puberty blockers/cross sex hormones, etc.

BUT most people (both medical and the general public) are aware of the fact the brain doesn’t mature until around 25… She is causing almost everyone to realise that she is either lying, grifting or deluded. This has not done her or her cause any favours at all.

OldCrone · 25/11/2025 09:35

She blew away credibility in trying to dismiss the loss of orgasm too. Not only by not acknowledging it as a major side effect, which she has to downplay so as not to scare patients off, but then banged on about listening to trans people. While not then acknowledging Marci Bowers as not only a trans person who is a gender clinician doing surgeries, but also a senior WPATH executive.

This bit was really odd. She said she'd talked to trans people who'd had 'gender affirming care' when they were young, and they told her they had better sex now than when they had the 'other body parts'. They were talking about children. Is Webberley saying that all those people were having sex as children?

Of course, if they were having sex as children (ie being raped) it's hardly surprising that they'd find consensual sexual experiences as adults better, regardless of any surgery they've had.

lifeturnsonadime · 25/11/2025 09:39

Helleofabore · 25/11/2025 09:30

What the fuck? I haven’t got to that yet. That seems very strange behaviour.

watch it to the end, the further in the more unhinged she becomes.