"Darlington Nurses" vs County Durham and Darlington NHS Trust Tribunal Thread 8

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Thread 1, 7-Oct to 23-Oct; pre-hearing discussion, KD (day 1 of evidence) and BH (day 2).
Thread 2, 23-Oct to 28-Oct; BH (day 2), CH, JP, MG (day 3&4), TH, SS, ST, LL (day 4), JS, AT (day 5)
Thread 3, 28-Oct to 29-Oct; AT (day 5&6), TA (day 6&7)
Thread 4, 29-Oct to 31-Oct; TA, AM (day 7) JB (day 8)
Thread 5, 31-Oct to 04-Nov; JB (day 8), SW, CG, JR (day 9)
Thread 6, 04-Nov to 05-Nov; RH (day 10), SW (day 11)
Thread 7, 05-Nov to 11-Nov; SW (day 11), closing submissions

Five nurses working at Darlington Memorial Hospital have filed a legal case suing their employer, an NHS trust, for sexual harassment and sex discrimination. The nurses object to sharing the women’s changing facilities with a male colleague, Rose, who identifies as female. The hearing started on October 20th, with evidence now complete. Submissions are being made on November 11th. To view the hearing online requests for access had to be made by October 17th. The hearing is being live tweeted by Tribunal Tweets who have background to this case on their substack. An alternative to X is to use Nitter: nitter.net/tribunaltweets or nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

The Judge made clear at the start of the public hearing on Day 1 that only TT or press have permission to tweet. If online observers see/hear something in the court that isn’t reported by TT, we don’t mention it until the next time there’s a break. This is a very cautious approach to avoid any accusations of “live reporting” on MN. Commentary on the content of TT tweets is fine as soon as they’re posted on X.

Key people:
C/Ns - Claimants, the Darlington nurses
R/T/Trust - Respondent, County Durham and Darlington NHS Foundation Trust
J/EJ – Judge/Employment Judge Seamus Sweeney
NF - Niazi Fetto KC, barrister for claimants
SC - Simon Cheetham, KC, barrister for respondents
RH - Rose Henderson, trans identifying nurse
CG – Clare Gregory, NHS ward manager
SW - Sue Williams, NHS Trust HR
KD – Karen Danson, first claimant to give evidence.
BH – Bethany Hutchison, claimant
AH – Alistair Hutchison, husband of Bethany
CH – Carly Hoy, claimant
JP – Jane Peveller, claimant
MG – Mary Anne (aka Annice) Grundy, claimant
TH – Tracy Hooper, claimant
SS – Siobhan Sinclair, witness for the claimants, retired from Trust
ST – Sharron Trevarrow, witness for the claimants, retired from Trust, former housekeeper and wellbeing officer
LL – Lisa Lockey, claimant
JP – Professor Jo Phoenix, expert witness
JS – Jane Shields, witness for the claimants
AT - Andrew Thacker, NHS trust Head of HR
TA – Tracy Atkinson, NHS trust HR.
AM – Andrew Moore, NHS Head of Workforce Experience
JB – Jillian Bailey, NHS Workforce Experience Manager
AT – Anna Telfer, NHS Deputy Director of Nursing
SW – Sandra Watson, Matron for General and Elective Surgery
JR – Jodie Robinson, manager of Rose

Living fully in your gender is an such bollocks. How can you define who fits such a nebulous concept? And therefore normal safeguarding etc. doesn't apply?

So the BBC know how important this is but still choose to blame the women.

The BBC summary includes this bit, which is remarkably clear, and would not have been put this way even a year ago:

Rose Henderson, who is a biological male who identifies as a woman

It is being covered by Alison Holt, who SEEN in Journalism have said is really good. Previously, this would have been routed through or had input from the LGBT desk, so the coverage would have been dreadful.

I don't see them blaming the woman. They are just summarising the arguments presented in the tribunal.

Hopefully this judge won't have relied on AI for the judgement.

Well, Beth Upton told us it's about how you move through your life Talk about nebulous

Signing in. Fingers crossed but expecting the worst after the Peggie debacle.

At least they can’t rely on the 2 previous ETs which seemed to suggest because only 1 person complained it was all absolutely fine!

I agree - also very nervous here, even though it seems such an obvious case

It’s n+1, I think, as the required number. And the timescale required is t-1y, where t = time of first complaint and y = year.

Absolutely boils my piss the BBC headline saying trans woman. He's a man, they object to sharing a changing room with a man.

Aargh the wait is killing me

You, me and now more than 4000 viewing on the BBC.

Yay!!!!

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Wow!!!

Fan fucking tastic!!!!

THANK FUCK!!!!!!!! My heart has been racing and I've been checking this thread every 10-15 mins. Oh my god, I am SO happy for them.

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This will be good news for the Peggie appeal, won't it? Does anyone think so?

Brilliant!!!

YES

Well done Darlington nurses!

Oh wow! Women really needed that!

Finally a judge who sees sense.