Macrons to offer 'scientific' court evidence to prove Brigitte is a woman, lawyer says

[SerendipityJane]

Quite unsettling it has to go this far.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg3llj5nxdo

I agree with you there. The future will be a scary world. This case is only different because it has a foot in the old and new. And it’s hard to go back in time now to fake photos and documents.

By their own admission Brigitte was 36 when they met & Emanuel 14. A heterosexual relationship with those ages of the people involved doesn't really sound credible....a homosexual one does sound more believable.

absolutely it matters @Bideo that’s why they don’t want anyone to question this.

Look at the original journalist who did the research. Using labels is just a way of saying shut the fuck up, no debate. Where have we heard that before?

I don’t think there is a debate to be had? This is a completely unfounded rumour based on some old pictures

If they have chosen to prove her sex, why aren't they using the swab the athletes use? Is there a problem with that test?

It's an absolutely ridiculous allegation, but the Macron's have decided to go for libel so they have to provide evidence.

Celebrities in the UK advise people not to sue for libel because you allow for everything to be dug up and have to provide an absurd amount of evidence (but a lot less than in the US).

I never stop growing amazed at how anything can be turned in the TRA's favour. Stating this case is forcing ALL women to prove their sex because someone thinks they're male, so best never to ask for evidence in ANY circumstance and let lying biological males off.

There is so much fascinating research that the brains of people who believe in conspiracy theories really are different. The regions of the brain implicated in value-based decision-making and belief uncertainty are quite different.

I await the correlation between the brain activity of conspiracy theorists and religious fanatics as I personally find their explanation rationales and thought processes to be almost identical.

This is beyond weird. It bothers me that we’re talking about it because it feels as if we’re feeding conspiracy theorists.

Yet it is a shocking a woman feels required to do this.

I’ve always been shocked by the age situation- I thought I read Macron was friends with her son, and she was his teacher. It surprised me that the relationship didn’t act as a barrier to his success.

As a woman, I resent that any sort of accusation could be levelled at me because I don’t look feminine enough.

So you're happy to have men in women's spaces because how else do you prevent it?

Surely as Macron started this lawsuit she would have known that she would need to show proof in some way?

I don't really think this is a downfall on woman - she's not being randomly asked to show it, she started a deformation lawsuit and as such has to argue her case?

You’re free to think what you want. Others are free to want to protect children from predators. The French public at least deserve the truth.

It’s not rare at all

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn08y6785xqo.amp

https://nypost.com/2025/05/10/us-news/disgraced-teacher-who-groomed-pre-teen-students-imprisoned-for-30-years/

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/female-teacher-jailed-sleeping-15-34549853

www.theguardian.com/world/2006/mar/24/usa.gender

This is preposterous & so scary.
Why should any woman have to “prove” their biology when supposedly it’s unacceptable to ask the same of a fella in a frock in a public bathroom?

i am not particularly a fan of the Macrons, but surely this sets a pretty horrible precedent?

Well it sets a precedent if you start of a lawsuit expecting millions in compensation.

It's clearly a false allegation, but if you take it to court then expect to have to provide this level of evidence.

Surely the precedent is already set - if you're going to bring a case for libel you have to prove the allegations are untrue?

Its not about her proving she's a woman, but proving CO lied.

Good god, they walk among us.

Yes, the naive who daren’t believe people in power could be corrupt or pedophiles. Will you be back with all those baby photos?

I just googled pictures of her, as a result of this thread. I was interested in the allegation about the various photographs, more than what she looks like.

I realised as I looked at her that she’s being scrutinised by thousands of people, judging her appearance in one way or another. So I stopped.

How awful.

Yes, that is also a widespread conspiracy circulating in the U.S.

This is the only conspiracy theory that makes me pause and think there may be something in it. The origins and longevity of their relationship is bizarre in itself.

That's very interesting about social mobility in France, @MarieDeGournay.

Why is it bizarre?

A relationship with his teacher, from when he was 14 isn't bizarre?

But there’s no evidence she is trans.