Macrons to offer 'scientific' court evidence to prove Brigitte is a woman, lawyer says

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Quite unsettling it has to go this far.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg3llj5nxdo

Absolutely true in more general terms. But I was thinking in this specific case, with the boy being so very young, there would have been more chance of interventions from the authorities or parents to end it. I believe his parents did try.

You're being silly, it's not a problem and it will stop men raping women and girls in our safe spaces.

So you don’t see the fact that it is always MAGA making these accusations against women?

It’s a problem for me, a biological woman? I don’t want to have to carry some sort of marker to show I’m a woman because I’m not perceived to be feminine enough.

The law here was different when he was a child. They met when he was 14yo, and possibly he was groomed, but I don't think there's any allegation that their realtionship started then.

Has anyone suggested that you should?

I don't see what the problem is, when you're challenged you have proof that you are a women and satisfy whoever is asking.

SexMatters are pushing for it to be a digital ID.

Actually I'd support that. Much better than being faced with men in frocks in ladies loos.

Me too, the sooner the better AFAIC

I don’t understand why people think this is so outside the realms of what is possible. We’ve just had (at least) 2 men compete in the women’s Olympic boxing. Numerous officials lied that these men were female. If it hadn’t been for the leaks of medical information we would have all been told to shut up and sit back down. There is an epidemic of people claiming to be the opposite sex and many will be living in stealth mode. This may well be a conspiracy theory but honestly it wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if it wasn’t. When society (and I am assuming the Macrons are supportive of allowing men change the sex on their birth certificates) goes down the road of allowing men to lie about their sex this is the ugly result. If Brigitte is female she will be able to very simply prove it to the court and then they can take the conspiracy theorists to the cleaners.

The way things are going the digital ID will not be an accurate record of sex. It will be self ID through the back door.

Because I don’t feel that I should be challenged, nor should I feel afraid of being challenged?

I am overweight. I could easily be mistaken as a man if I were in oversized clothes, as I don’t have huge boobs. I like “male” interests like football and f1. The idea that my very identity as a woman can be challenged because I’m not feminine enough is fucking disgusting, and should scare you all. Because at some point, it will become any woman that’s not at home, popping out as many babies as possible, that needs to “prove” she’s a woman.

It wouldn't be challenged because you're not feminine enough, but because men are a threat to women.

What's your solution?

But they decide who looks like a man based on how feminine they appear. I’d prefer it that we didn’t live in a society where this was an issue, and where we raised kind, compassionate people no matter their gender. Seems that that’s not happening.

Yes, it's very simple to prove, and then the case is over in a matter of hours (or less?)

Yes, it's very simple to prove, and then the case is over in a matter of hours (or less?) Maybe talk to the men who want to invade women's spaces then...then none of this is necessary.

Macron can prove the information is false and still lose if she can't also prove that Owens was motivated by malice in spreading the false information.

They might well be hiding something, but that something bring brigitte is a gay man masquerading as a woman and no one has noticed until recently is so ridiculous it barely needs disputing.

Brigitte worked as a teacher for decades. I'm sure at least one of her colleagues would have noticed if she was a man in drag.

Yes, I realised that after posting, but it would surely put the story to bed.

There is no justification for these accusations though?

My DH and I had a near divorce of his use of that misogynistic slur against Michelle Obama. I don't think I have ever been so upset and/or enraged. He's never been that sort of man and when the heated row reached the point of me saying women can often look more masculine as they age and will you be throwing that at me in a few years he was horrified. He was starting to slip into an internet rabbit hole and thankfully that row seemed to shock him into rethinking. It's such a pitiful bit of nastiness I genuinely think a bit less of him now.

No, they are pushing for any digital ID to provide accurate information.

I don’t think people realise that MAGA and their ilk are not pushing for this type of thing because they care about women. They don’t care about women.

And here it is, you don't care about any of this you don't want trans women (men) to be questioned.

This argument has been attempted many times before.