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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

GLP are going after Sarah Philmore and are going to lose

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fromorbit · 28/08/2025 09:10

Get the popcorn folks. GLP is getting ready to lose again.

They are going after barrister Sarah Phillimore for referring to a man as a man. They think they are going to lawfare her into silence.

Her blog:

Here we are now: Entertain us
I have had now 7 years and counting of the various tactics used to 'silence' those who won't comply with prevailing orthodoxy. How are those tactics holding up?
https://sarahphillimore.substack.com/p/here-we-are-now-entertain-us?

The only thing is other TAs have already tried this on Phillimore multiple times. They went to the Bar Council their claims were dismissed. They all failed. More to the point this ‘Kate’ is the same guy complaining again who already failed. Sarah Phillimore knows the law and likes explaining it to TAs and making them lose. So she doesn't even resent the attempt.

As Sarah has stated "They pick on someone who not only enjoys this but has now a vast repository of knowledge about the law in this area."

Sarah Phillimore

Because I don’t tweet as a public body, an employer or provider of goods or services. I am not subject to the Equality Act. I tweet as a private individual and I will say again. You can’t change sex. A man cannot be a woman. I cannot be compelled to call a man a woman.

A trans identifying man such as ‘Kate’ who frequently takes to the public stage to urge violence against women and declare his intent to enter women’s spaces, is a dangerous man and one who will attract public comment.

Follow the fun on X
https://x.com/SVPhillimore

Here we are now: Entertain us

I have had now 7 years and counting of the various tactics used to 'silence' those who won't comply with prevailing orthodoxy. How are those tactics holding up?

https://sarahphillimore.substack.com/p/here-we-are-now-entertain-us

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BezMills · 27/12/2025 09:58

Middle aged straight bloke who wants to be sammybabes16

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 10:07

Helleofabore-

so in your opinion transwomen are ‘weak’ men and trans men are simply women.

you fi realise that’s just Your TERF opinion and the vast majority of people do not think they are ‘weak’ men as you put it. It’s a small minority opinion just like some people believe the Earth is flat.

But you are entitled to your opinion 🤡😂

SionnachRuadh · 27/12/2025 10:12

Sammy, mate, please have a strong coffee and plenty of water before you start again. That there eggnog sneaks up on you if you're not used to it.

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 10:12

Myalternate-

so you are unable to answer question 1 properly active a figure. Thanks for clearing that up dear.

snd if your child is unwell I’m very dirty to hear that. If do you should be focussing on their health not ranting in here dear. Safeguarding concern right there dear.

tut tut

NotBadConsidering · 27/12/2025 10:13

Mercatorgater · 27/12/2025 09:39

Is Ahmed Crussdresser a person or an item of furniture?

You put it on a Persian rug in your bedroom.

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 10:14

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polid · 27/12/2025 10:15

what’s a TERF opinion, compared with just an opinion?🤣🤣You called us all sane earlier in the thread, so I presume you mean a sane, logical opinion shared with the vast majority of people?

KnottyAuty · 27/12/2025 10:16

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 01:47

DrJump-

  1. How many women were assaulted by transwomen in female bathrooms in the U.K. in the last 12 months?
  2. Why are TERFs main focus on trans women when the overwhelming vast majority of assaults on women are done by men we know - not some random trans woman
  3. Trans women , trans men, gender fluid men and women will always exist so what is your solution to this ‘problem’ in Terfland?

I don’t have the answers to these questions but I’d love to hear yours (as someone else tried answering up thread).

But id love to ask you some questions:

How could we know how many women were assaulted by transwomen in female bathrooms in the U.K. in the last 12 months when crime stats would record this as female on female crime?

Why are you so focussed on assaults and don’t understand privacy and dignity concerns of women?

Why can’t you understand that we accept that “trans people exist” but would like them to have their own facilities rather than crash in on women?

Why don’t you know your recent history so you’d understand that women’s “facilities” and “services” had to be fought for by women and only existed for 50-100 years (and are the often basis on which our participation in public life hinges on) so obviously we will resist males who (continue) to try to undermine these (whether or not they wear make up and dresses)?

BendoftheBeginning · 27/12/2025 10:16

This thread is hilarious. I wonder if the TRAs mean to be quite so funny, or is all this comedy self-owning genuinely all by accident?

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 10:16

KitWyn-

thank you for your TERF opinion.

its remarkable how TERFs are so called self proclaimed experts on anything trans- even though they aren’t trans themselves 😂🤡

polid · 27/12/2025 10:18

he’s not interested @KnottyAuty this is the sort of poster who just wants to write TERF lots and spout juvenilia. Luckily we have the supreme court and the vast majority of people on our side.

Helleofabore · 27/12/2025 10:18

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 10:07

Helleofabore-

so in your opinion transwomen are ‘weak’ men and trans men are simply women.

you fi realise that’s just Your TERF opinion and the vast majority of people do not think they are ‘weak’ men as you put it. It’s a small minority opinion just like some people believe the Earth is flat.

But you are entitled to your opinion 🤡😂

I didn’t state my opinion and I didn’t express any judgement about strength. I merely pointed out that your posts were full of flawed logic and that you were using fallacious arguments to support any coherent point you made.

However, my opinion is that humans cannot change sex ever and that the English language has well established meanings for words such as ‘man’ and ‘woman’ that refer to sex that do not include the opposite sex being included in those words, regardless of any philosophical belief they hold about themselves that doesn’t reflect the material reality of their body.

I also suggest if you want people
to respond you might stop using the word Terf as it will likely lead to all your posts being deleted. Or is that the plan? That you want your posts to be deleted?

polid · 27/12/2025 10:19

and writing TERF in capitals so he can properly shout at us. Hilarious. 🤣

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 10:19

BendoftheBeginning

What is hilarious is listening to privileged white middle class middle aged TERFs proclaiming to be experts on all things trans.

It’s so funny 😂🤡

lcakethereforeIam · 27/12/2025 10:19

@Sammybabes16 if you type the @ symbol you should get a drop down, scrollable list of other posters. If you pick the poster you are replying to from that list they will get a notification that they've been mentioned by you.

If you click on the three dot in the top right corner, there's a drop down menu. Toward the bottom there's an option to edit your new posts for typos, autocorrupts, etc. After a few minutes though you do lose the option to edit the post.

You may be using a version of MN that doesn't have these facilities. In which case apologies.

Helleofabore · 27/12/2025 10:20

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 10:12

Myalternate-

so you are unable to answer question 1 properly active a figure. Thanks for clearing that up dear.

snd if your child is unwell I’m very dirty to hear that. If do you should be focussing on their health not ranting in here dear. Safeguarding concern right there dear.

tut tut

Why are you very dirty to hear about a poorly child?

KnottyAuty · 27/12/2025 10:20

polid · 27/12/2025 10:19

and writing TERF in capitals so he can properly shout at us. Hilarious. 🤣

Although that is the one grammatical correctness I’ve spotted

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 10:21

Helleofabore-

ummm yes you did dear.

you said ‘trans women are weak men ‘. The word weak is funny

an opinion but a TERF opinion which you are entitled to dear just like flat earthers are entitled to theirs

polid · 27/12/2025 10:21

Helleofabore · 27/12/2025 10:20

Why are you very dirty to hear about a poorly child?

Edited

when people are really angry and frothing at the mouth, they tend to make more typos 🤣

Seethlaw · 27/12/2025 10:23

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 10:16

KitWyn-

thank you for your TERF opinion.

its remarkable how TERFs are so called self proclaimed experts on anything trans- even though they aren’t trans themselves 😂🤡

Some of us are trans and TERF at the same time...

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 10:23

lcakethereforeIam-

thank you I wasn’t aware of this.

When I said dirty I meant sorry

KnottyAuty · 27/12/2025 10:24

polid · 27/12/2025 10:18

he’s not interested @KnottyAuty this is the sort of poster who just wants to write TERF lots and spout juvenilia. Luckily we have the supreme court and the vast majority of people on our side.

I know - but I live in hope. And when I was a lurker reading these threads I didn’t always understand that these sorts of things were regular “visitors” who had exhausted the patience of “regulars” so didn’t always understand the snark. So for anyone lurking they’ll see what happens when some reasonable questions are asked. Will it be a) avoidance b) Daily Mail style misinterpretation or c) mudslinging?

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 10:25

Seethlaw-

what all 3 of you in the entire country? 😂🤡

Helleofabore · 27/12/2025 10:26

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 10:21

Helleofabore-

ummm yes you did dear.

you said ‘trans women are weak men ‘. The word weak is funny

an opinion but a TERF opinion which you are entitled to dear just like flat earthers are entitled to theirs

Would you like to reference where I, personally, said this and was not quoting someone else, or quoting you?

Maybe you are here and don’t understand the quoting protocol of the forum? In which case, you should have done this research months ago when you started posting in the JK Rowling thread.

KnottyAuty · 27/12/2025 10:28

Sammybabes16 · 27/12/2025 10:21

Helleofabore-

ummm yes you did dear.

you said ‘trans women are weak men ‘. The word weak is funny

an opinion but a TERF opinion which you are entitled to dear just like flat earthers are entitled to theirs

You’ve mentioned “flat earthers” a few times. Im assuming you don’t understand that this is a term for those who never accepted the Enlightenment or took on the tenets of science - like the unchangeable nature of biological sex?

So by definition you are the “flat earthers”…