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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans charity launches defence of men ‘who can breastfeed’

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Igneococcus · 09/07/2025 00:41

Somewhat scraping the barrel with their arguments here. I have to admit that men who use hormones and drugs to induce "milk" to "feed" babies are not the person in this scenario that I'm worried about, the baby is.
https://www.thetimes.com/article/8a3f3784-e7b5-4d4e-bda4-fbb6128fd3b9?shareToken=0a544096c5296b8a5b6ebbafea2061d6

Trans charity launches defence of men ‘who can breastfeed’

Scottish Trans claimed trans women who could produce milk would face ‘discrimination’ after the Supreme Court’s gender ruling as they were not legally female

https://www.thetimes.com/article/8a3f3784-e7b5-4d4e-bda4-fbb6128fd3b9?shareToken=0a544096c5296b8a5b6ebbafea2061d6

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/07/2025 14:48

I don’t use genderist language. When I talk about men that’s what I’m referring to.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/07/2025 14:50

I think their “inclusion” schtick covers both men who identify as women and women who
identify as men.

JellySaurus · 09/07/2025 14:55

Ms Buckley will also never be able to experience being a lion, a zebra, a member of the Royal Family or a potted plant.
Life is so cruel sometimes, but we all have to learn to manage our many small disappointments.

This is why I find it difficult to believe that anyone who has been a parent or a teacher can possible support this ideology.

Transgenderism is the antithesis of common-sense.

RobinHeartella · 09/07/2025 14:57

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/07/2025 14:48

I don’t use genderist language. When I talk about men that’s what I’m referring to.

I understand and wasn't accusing you. Yes that makes sense when they say transmisogyny they mean transwomen.

In my defence, they do deliberately use obscure language leaving people wondering which sex they're talking about. So I wondered

Ereshkigalangcleg · 09/07/2025 14:59

They do, agree @RobinHeartella. It’s deliberately unclear so that people aren’t quite sure what they mean.

BeeSouriante · 09/07/2025 15:10

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Well they're a bit different, given that the breast cells of a transwoman have got a y chromosome in them.

Igneococcus · 09/07/2025 15:26

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Not magic, you fantasist,

Biology.

Observable, measurable, explainable, coherent within the framework of evolution by natural selection (a process you have dropped out off in case you really sterilized yourself before producing living and viable offspring). And you clearly haven't been near a pair of real breasts if you think a man can grow anything coming close to real breasts.

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MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/07/2025 15:26

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😂😂😂😂😂
".. trans women's breasts are no different to cisgender women's breasts.."

In your fantasies mate.

Datun · 09/07/2025 15:35

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/07/2025 15:26

😂😂😂😂😂
".. trans women's breasts are no different to cisgender women's breasts.."

In your fantasies mate.

I wouldn't mind but you could play spot the transwoman on a dating site who would completely disagree with Bee!

Helleofabore · 09/07/2025 15:40

@BeeSouriante This is deja vu isn't it?

Would you, who has declared that they know about female breasts like to to tell us all how male 'breast tissue' becomes the interactive system that is behind the breast and endocrine system of a female person?

Please can you answer this, I have been waiting for an answer for months.

Helleofabore · 09/07/2025 15:43

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Also, as well as

How male 'breast tissue' becomes the interactive system that is behind the breast and endocrine system of a female person?

Can you please use your expertise in female breast tissue and breastfeeding to describe exactly how the "hormones are bio-identical"? How can this possible?

Looking forward to you showing your expertise!

Trans charity launches defence of men ‘who can breastfeed’
borntobequiet · 09/07/2025 15:45

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I expect in the same way that penises and clitorises are really the same but one goes out and the other in.

”The hormones are bio-identical”. So fucking what?

Crazy stuff.

Helleofabore · 09/07/2025 15:46

Imagine thinking that male breasts are 'just like female breasts'!

It speaks volumes about the ignorance that men have about the development of women's breasts, hormones, pregnancy and breast feeding.

And yet .... they will enter into discussions to spread misinformation everywhere.

Igneococcus · 09/07/2025 15:47

"hormones are bio-identical"
That is such a silly argument isn't it? So what? The male and female bodies aren't bio-identical.

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Helleofabore · 09/07/2025 15:53

Igneococcus · 09/07/2025 15:47

"hormones are bio-identical"
That is such a silly argument isn't it? So what? The male and female bodies aren't bio-identical.

Also, bioidentical is not naturally produced for that specific body, by that specific body. Plus, of course, modulated by an endrocrine system with the coding needed for that specific body.

As you say, bioidentical? So what?

Datun · 09/07/2025 15:55

MrsOvertonsWindow · 09/07/2025 15:26

😂😂😂😂😂
".. trans women's breasts are no different to cisgender women's breasts.."

In your fantasies mate.

Just about sums it up.

The only people on OLD who appear to be allowed to say NO trans, are trans.

Clearly missing the memo about how um 'identical', everything is.

Bee forgets, that there are an awful lot of tw who don't mind showing exactly how different their anatomy is.

And who can forget India Willoughby on Big Brother openly rubbing all into his chest saying I feel nothing, it's meaningless.

you know, as women do!

Helleofabore · 09/07/2025 15:59

Does anyone remember the quote about the 'sizzle of electricity' that one male person felt when an infant's lips touched their nipple to suckle? The one that pondered whether women felt this arousal as well?

I cannot find it.

And I don't really want to google it...

Beowulfa · 09/07/2025 16:09

If injecting synthetic oestrogen into a male makes them indistinguishable from females, why don't dairy farmers do this with bullocks?

Helleofabore · 09/07/2025 16:10

Beowulfa · 09/07/2025 16:09

If injecting synthetic oestrogen into a male makes them indistinguishable from females, why don't dairy farmers do this with bullocks?

I wouldn't suggest trying to milk a bull... ewwwww!!!! and ouch!!!

Okiedokie123 · 09/07/2025 16:16

@kinsters - it is happening though.

And even if it is just one baby that is one baby too many that is being abused (and not just by "chest"feeding either - its all the other nonsense they will be taught as they grow up)
Sadly its already a lot more than just one baby.

Beowulfa · 09/07/2025 16:21

borntobequiet · 09/07/2025 15:45

I expect in the same way that penises and clitorises are really the same but one goes out and the other in.

”The hormones are bio-identical”. So fucking what?

Crazy stuff.

Remember that Reddit thread in which they all insisted injecting oesgtrogen meant they had menstrual cycles.

Helleofabore · 09/07/2025 16:24

Beowulfa · 09/07/2025 16:21

Remember that Reddit thread in which they all insisted injecting oesgtrogen meant they had menstrual cycles.

Indeed.

And unethical endocrinologists have told them that cycling progesterone with oestrogen is exactly like a menstrual cycle.

It seems to cause a great deal of intestinal blockages and intestinal distress for sure.

But apparently.... being 'bioidentical' is all that matters.

RedToothBrush · 09/07/2025 16:36

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but trans women's breasts are no different to cisgender women's breasts
Except they aren't

hormones are bio-identical
You mean fake

RedToothBrush · 09/07/2025 16:37

bio-identical
Shame about the chromosones.

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