Trans charity launches defence of men ‘who can breastfeed’

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Somewhat scraping the barrel with their arguments here. I have to admit that men who use hormones and drugs to induce "milk" to "feed" babies are not the person in this scenario that I'm worried about, the baby is.
https://www.thetimes.com/article/8a3f3784-e7b5-4d4e-bda4-fbb6128fd3b9?shareToken=0a544096c5296b8a5b6ebbafea2061d6

I read some of the ‘research' (and I use the word very loosely) done on this topic in the US. It’s been posted on TwiX. And when I saw the paper discussing a man producing small amounts of 'clumpy milk' I nearly threw up in my mouth. I was horrified at what is being done in the name of inclusion but really, actually, in the service of fetishism.

Doing this to wee babies is abusive and repulsive and ethically/morally indefensible.

I mean of all the things to worry about this surely must be very, very low priority. The amount of men who attempt to breastfeed is, thankfully, miniscule. And the amount who actually do it to any meaningful degree must be virtually non existent.

So how many babies need to be affected before it’s important enough to worry about? Do you have a number so I can set a reminder to care?

As long as it’s a small number of babies being abused, that’s ok then

and you don’t think it’s weird that the might of the trans propaganda machine is being thrown behind the myth that men can breastfeed and it’s normal and healthy? There’s been evening news interviews with a man who forced his baby to suck chemically induced secretions from his chest, pseudo medical articles published, and now Scottish government funded organisations pushing it. La Leche League tore itself apart over allowing men into breastfeeding groups. Why? Why are these tiny number of men so loud about normalising getting a baby to suck on male body parts?

also, who the fuck are the mothers who are allowing it and handing over their vulnerable babies to be abused?

Sorry, I meant why are the charity focussing their attentions on this tiny (potentially non existent) number of men rather than the much larger number of trans identifying women who would potentially not be entitled to maternity protections if TRAs had their way.

The thought of any baby being a prop for a fetish is quite gross.

Yes, it is not milk, it is pus.

I will never not be angry about the organisations that promote(d) this. They should all be disbanded. The men who harmed babies with their pus secretions should be prosecuted.

The amount of men who attempt to breastfeed is, thankfully, miniscule. And the amount who actually do it to any meaningful degree must be virtually non existent.

All abuse of babies is pretty rare. So you can salami-slice it down so the amount of every individual type of abuse is "miniscule", or "virtually non-existent".

The reason to single this type of abuse out is we have people actually arguing in favour of it. You may be stuck at "this never happens", but they've already progressed to "it's good that it's happening" and "we want it to happen more".

And on top of the direct effect on children these abusers have access to, complete breast-feeding organisations are imploding due people in positions of power justifying the abuse.

At least the whole Catholic church child abuse thing was something they knew to be ashamed of, such that they tried to cover it up. This is as if the Pope was out there proclaiming great it was to fiddle with choir boys - a core part of Catholicism - and excommunicating anyone who said anything against it.

When someone is publicly arguing for something, that requires people who oppose it to argue against it. If it's high enough priority to argue for, it's high enough priority to argue against. One side doesn't get a free win by claiming it's too low a priority only for their opponents.

The reason to single this type of abuse out is we have people actually arguing in favour of it. You may be stuck at "this never happens", but they've already progressed to "it's good that it's happening" and "we want it to happen more".

That's a very good point, and the Scottish government (or rather the Scottish taxpayers) funds these organisations while Swinney weasels about.

Oh no, I’m so sorry, I totally misinterpreted your post.

Idiots.

Sorry, I meant why are the charity focussing their attentions on this tiny (potentially non existent) number of men rather than the much larger number of trans identifying women who would potentially not be entitled to maternity protections if TRAs had their way.

Because they are men.

Transgenderism is a men's rights ideology where women, including trans-identifying women, are merely props to service men.

However, Scottish Trans also complained about use of the term “biological sex” in the EHRC’s draft code of practice, claiming the term was “unclear”. The group said that “sex characteristics” and hormones” can be changed and therefore the term biological sex “should not be used in the code”.

There is also this. No matter how many time biology is explained to them they will never accept it.

I would imagine they are focussing on this in yet mother attempt to muddy the water when it comes to defining biological sex.

Operation Let Them Speak in full flow.

I want to commend the Times on their use of photo though. A creepy smirking bloke and a gormless looking woman gurning with signs about JKR. The man’s threatening to burn her alive. What better depiction?

A taxpayer-funded trans rights charity has complained that men “who are able to breastfeed” may have lost legal protections following the Supreme Court’s gender ruling.

Men on hormones who are using babies as props for their identity in a way which is not properly tested as safe are pissed off that it's been identified by a court that their sex means they aren't breastfeeding at all. They are pissed off that they can't legitimise their fetish and people might start noticing it's a fetish.

Babies do not need hormone juice. They need breast milk or formula. Where is the baby's right not to be experimented on, in all this?

Ghouls.

Every Child Matters

That's true but everything starts somewhere. It could be the thin end of the wedge in terms of what's considered to be the norm.

That article is superb in highlighting the abuse of babies. Medical professionals involved should be prosecuted for their part along with the men and the mothers.

Nothing can defend male people who feed not analysed secretions induced by either ill health or drugs with unknown interactions.

This is one case study, there are more.

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5779241/

Always the focus is on the man never the child.

For those who are interested in the science, here is some more to read.

A transitioned male expert was the one who was putting up alerts about this, not the two people who carried out the treatment.

www.newscientist.com/article/2161151-transgender-woman-is-first-to-be-able-to-breastfeed-her-baby/#ixzz6f2Pil0Ik

However, the woman’s breastmilk has not been assessed yet, so we don’t know if it has the same mix of components as in milk from new gestational mothers. This means the practice cannot yet be recommended, says Madeline Deutsch at the University of California, San Francisco. She says she can see the potential benefits of breastfeeding, but that the long-term impact of this milk on the baby – including on subtle measures like IQ – is unknown.

Deutsch herself is a transgender woman with a six-month-old baby who is currently being breastfed by Deutsch’s wife, who was the gestational mother. “I am very sad not to be able to breastfeed her and at the same time I did not consider doing this for the above reasons,” she says.

This was February 2018. I have not seen anything to prove that any in-depth studies have been released since to counter this expert's opinion. And there has been plenty of other threads since this that where these studies would have been posted by activist posters.

So, there we have it. A transitioned male, Associate Professor, Family Community Medicine, is telling the world that this is not advisable until further research.

And this is key too:

After three months of treatment, this increased to 227 grams of breast milk per day. Once the baby was born, she was able to exclusively breastfeed the infant for six weeks – during which time a paediatrician confirmed the baby was growing and developing normally and healthily.

Although significant, this is below the average of around 500 grams that a baby consumes by the time the it is 5 days old. After six weeks, the woman supplemented her breastfeeding with formula.

So.... for how many weeks did this infant receive half the nutrition it needed? This male only supplemented the feeding regime at SIX WEEKS!!!

And this was supposed to be monitored surely. It was an experiment. Why was this allowed!

From the New Scientist article.

It gets worse. Women who discuss it online in Australia can be told they have broken the law. Because a male centred experience (there is no proven robust study done on these secretions to show they are safe in the long term) must only be celebrated apparently.

Two Australian Women Told They Broke The Law After Criticizing Trans-Identified Male Breastfeeding Child - Reduxxx

It’s sexual abuse of babies pure and simple

This may need a content warning, so be warned this link show males talking about the amazing electric charge they get from infants feeding from their nipples amongst other things.

https://www.them.us/story/trans-women-breastfeed

This is an illuminating read and shows insight into the motivations for these male people who seek to do this.

What is very clear, is that this is NEVER about the child. This is never child centred. This is all about the male person's demands being met.

Scottish Trans are the group who basically set the policy for self id in Scottish prisons which led to violent male sex offenders being placed in the female prison estate.

And now they're wringing their hands about men not being allowed to 'breast feed' tiny infants.

They are beneath contempt.