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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

The “women’s march” that’s all about the men.

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BackToLurk · 11/12/2024 13:24

I couldn’t see a thread about this, but I’m just here to share how annoying it is to see a so-called women’s march so concerned with placating men. This is the march in January.

As well as the highly predictable “this is for all women” (meaning including the ones who are men) and the ‘we don’t tolerate transphobia’ (meaning any concept of sex-based oppression), the Facebook group is full of posts reassuring men that of course they’re welcome and it’s not all men and obviously “not my Nigel”. It’s infuriating. Why do people do this?

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Sparklybutold · 19/12/2024 09:55

Could you just black out my name - it's not so much youz lots 😁 but with the recent Aston uni mining data controversy, it's literally my name.

Sparklybutold · 19/12/2024 09:55

Wow - so they probably do this to all challenge. So literally silencing women's voices? How ironic.

PonyPatter44 · 19/12/2024 09:55

Tbh I'm giving up on it all. The organisers are being absolutely wishy-washy in their stated aims, presumably because they're afraid of offending someone, and most of the posters are banging on about anxiety and being afraid to travel alone on the train from Croydon.

BackToLurk · 19/12/2024 09:58

Sparklybutold · 19/12/2024 09:55

Wow - so they probably do this to all challenge. So literally silencing women's voices? How ironic.

Messaged you here

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PonyPatter44 · 19/12/2024 09:59

More mither from me - if transwomen want to come and listen to women talking about abortion, sex-based violence, pay inequality, and whatever the fuck is going on in Afghanistan, that's wonderful. The more the merrier. But women's rights are not trans rights, whatever they say.

BackToLurk · 19/12/2024 10:02

PonyPatter44 · 19/12/2024 09:55

Tbh I'm giving up on it all. The organisers are being absolutely wishy-washy in their stated aims, presumably because they're afraid of offending someone, and most of the posters are banging on about anxiety and being afraid to travel alone on the train from Croydon.

Touched by the lone man wondering whether anyone is driving so he can hop in the car.

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PonyPatter44 · 19/12/2024 10:03

BackToLurk · 19/12/2024 10:02

Touched by the lone man wondering whether anyone is driving so he can hop in the car.

I know, the bloody irony of it.

Sparklybutold · 19/12/2024 10:12

Contacted FSU - will keep you posted 😁

TigerLily40 · 19/12/2024 10:13

BackToLurk · 19/12/2024 08:09

“Karens”. So inclusive. No misogyny here.

Yeah just feeding into misogyny here

Projectme · 19/12/2024 10:24

@Sparklybutold
I think this is the post you were on:

The “women’s march” that’s all about the men.
Sparklybutold · 19/12/2024 10:57

Projectme · 19/12/2024 10:24

@Sparklybutold
I think this is the post you were on:

Yup

TigerLily40 · 19/12/2024 14:49

Sparklybutold · 19/12/2024 10:57

Yup

I have received a reply for the free speech union and he will look through everything I sent. The sex matters group is directing me to someone too.

Sparklybutold · 19/12/2024 15:41

@TigerLily40 😎

INeedAPensieve · 19/12/2024 20:54

Good luck @TigerLily40 and also to @Sparklybutold let's hope you can take it further. Those screenshots of what they were saying are eye opening! Bloody hell.

TigerLily40 · 19/12/2024 20:58

INeedAPensieve · 19/12/2024 20:54

Good luck @TigerLily40 and also to @Sparklybutold let's hope you can take it further. Those screenshots of what they were saying are eye opening! Bloody hell.

They are something else. I only managed a week in that group and as organiser. It just seems to be getting worse

Sparklybutold · 19/12/2024 22:54

I've just posted on the twitter page and also emailed WRN as what there social media presence talks about contradicts what's happening in these groups. WRN promoting #savewomenssports and then the fb groups for the marches are espousing the TWAW rhetoric. Whilst silencing and chucking out actual women. Let's see how things pan out.

Sparklybutold · 19/12/2024 22:57

Ah damn it - the marches are part of women's equality party!

Sparklybutold · 19/12/2024 23:04

Looking at the WEP webpage it makes so much more sense. So no one is at the helm? No wonder the marches are going to the dogs.

TigerLily40 · 20/12/2024 00:14

Sparklybutold · 19/12/2024 23:04

Looking at the WEP webpage it makes so much more sense. So no one is at the helm? No wonder the marches are going to the dogs.

So WEP are behind all these marches?

TigerLily40 · 20/12/2024 00:23

Sparklybutold · 19/12/2024 22:57

Ah damn it - the marches are part of women's equality party!

I think the WEP has closed now

Sparklybutold · 20/12/2024 01:00

@TigerLily40 yes they ended in November, but I'm fairly certain the activism and marches are still done on the back end of WEP. Reading through some of WEPs stuff the language is similar.

Although I'm doubting myself now?

Anyone else?

Sparklybutold · 20/12/2024 01:04

socialistworker.co.uk/womens-liberation/uk-womens-march-2025-group-plans-marches-across-britain/

Damn it, maybe not WEP? Are they just independent? Surely there has to be a base?

Sparklybutold · 20/12/2024 01:15

Looks like they set up after trump re-elected, spin off from the US.

cariadlet · 20/12/2024 04:12

I think the first march was held in the US in 2017 after Trump was elected for the first time.
I remember photos in the papers because lots of women wore pink pussy hats so there were strong visuals.

Sparklybutold · 20/12/2024 07:57

cariadlet · 20/12/2024 04:12

I think the first march was held in the US in 2017 after Trump was elected for the first time.
I remember photos in the papers because lots of women wore pink pussy hats so there were strong visuals.

So maybe set up after the first time he got elected?

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