The “women’s march” that’s all about the men.

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I couldn’t see a thread about this, but I’m just here to share how annoying it is to see a so-called women’s march so concerned with placating men. This is the march in January.

As well as the highly predictable “this is for all women” (meaning including the ones who are men) and the ‘we don’t tolerate transphobia’ (meaning any concept of sex-based oppression), the Facebook group is full of posts reassuring men that of course they’re welcome and it’s not all men and obviously “not my Nigel”. It’s infuriating. Why do people do this?

"non binary folk who face misogyny".

Can't we even suffer misogyny without men/other people wanting to suffer from it too? !!

The Women's March has been pandering to TRAs since the fuss about pussy hats at the first one after Trump's last election.

Sounds like the sort of march that all actual sensible women need to ignore.

So that means if Lucille is invited.
Sounds more like some sort of trans pride march, not a Women's march.

Not welcome: women who disagree with us.

Welcome: men.

That’s a no from me.

They seem far more angry at 'terfs' than they do at men committing VAWG.

There's a screenshot on X circulating where one of the organisers says she'd like to "belt the terfs". So they're OK with some VAWG.

Sounds like a march to be ignored and avoided.

Because we have seen so many other women physically hurt or intimidated when they do it? Because men have invaded so much we can't know if we are supporting or eroding woman's rights by marching?

I'm an out and vocal terf but I am also a single mum with young children I would never take my kids with me to a march or let women speak despite really wanting to attend myself. Because I can't risk my kids get wrapped up in it witnessing how the men behave when the real woman actually do organise.

A lot of people seem to feel that way...! Works out well for the patriarchy... anyway don't look too deeply into that...!

🙂Hell yes! I want to protect my right to wallow in traditional misogyny as other women before me have done for thousands of years. Bloody TRAs, is there nothing they won’t try to steal from us?

They seem far more angry at 'terfs' than they do at men committing VAWG.

Of course.

I hate the term 'gender based violence'. Women don't, and have never, faced oppression due to how we identify. It is 100% based on sex and you really can't identify out of it. The concept that throughout all of human history women have been sold, traded, raped, married off and refused basic rights over 'gender identity' is insulting.

Changing it to "gender based" erases the reality of being in a female body in a breathtakingly insulting way. Especially given that "gender" is redefined as anodyne stereotypes and manners of dress and hairstyles.

Gender-based violence makes it sound less bad than the reality that the violence described is overwhelmingly carried out by men on women because they are of the female sex.

In the same way that the term VAWG also makes it sound like random violence happens towards women and girls rather than describing the truth which is that it is MALE violence against women and girls.

These campaigning terms are sanitising the descriptions of the problems for some reason.

• Is it that the people involved don't like drawing attention to the root of the problems which is male behaviour?
• Is it that they don't want to risk the chance that an accurate description might alienate men?
• Is it that, as women, they hate drawing attention to their lack of ability to defend themselves from male violence because of female biology and social status?

Who knows? But I wish they weren't anodyne in naming and shaming the root issue of their campaigning.

Someone on that group at great pains to say they're not protesting against people but against 'systems'. As if the patriarchy is some disembodied force, and the violence committed against women isn't committed by men.

They won't get far actually tackling the issues if they can't even identify who is doing the violence.

The women's march is very active on TikTok and seems to be hoping to run numerous parallel events so oh bugger that it's actually about menz feelz.

What is wrong with so many women? They are so eager to sell their own sex down river.

@Chrysanthemum5 please stay on that committee and push for accurate data. My own organisation is equally dire. The result is that if we are ever sued or need to report on our actions we simply won't have accurate figures 🤦‍♀️

FFS

I left the group. Love the idea but it's not just full of men trying to prove they are not part of the problem, but the whole things lost the main point. I don't think they will go ahead anyway. Something is amiss, maybe just organisation.

I’ve just looked up the march online. First hit was an old one from the Women’s Equality Party, which supported transgenderism and has now collapsed. Second hit was a transgenderist Reddit. Not hopeful.

I’m not in this particular group but from the descriptions on here it reminds me of the one set up in response to the murder of Sarah Everard, supposedly to campaign against VAWG but discussion heavily policed by a mod team that included a male-with-special-gender-identity.

I think I lasted about 36 hours in that one.

Some GCs on twitter are talking about going on the march with pro-women banners and challenging the organisers to force them out.

This resulted in the organisers closing their X account.

This is Terf Island you can't really expect to organise a women's march without women who believe women are real turning up.

So they're not on X and FB is private.

This seems to be the one channel that is public: https://www.tiktok.com/@ukwomensmarch

I am on the fb group, and keeping an eye.

From what I've heard, be careful which posts you like.