Older generations show resistance to trans rights

[Inauthentic]

"Millennials and Gen Z tend to be overwhelmingly supportive of trans people, having grown up in a more inclusive environment, while older generations show far more resistance to trans rights, likely intimidated by the speed of social change."

Is this your experience?
There appears to be an overwhelming support for gender critical beliefs on Mumsnet.
Is it because it's mainly older generations engaging in this debate?

How old are you and what are your views?

I am 45yo and I mostly support trans rights (with the exception of trans athletes competing in woman's events and I agree puberty blockers is a grey area)

Why do you want to know? And who are you agreeing with when you say puberty blockers is a grey areas?

They mostly voted Brexit too.

And what rights do trans people not have that everyone else does?

Nice try

What do you mean by “trans rights”? FWIW, I am a millennial (late 30s) and am strongly gender critical.

"Millennials and Gen Z tend to be overwhelmingly supportive of trans people, having grown up in a more inclusive environment, while older generations show far more resistance to trans rights, likely intimidated by the speed of social change."

Hi there, where has this quote originated from, please?

A supplementary question, if I may? What rights do trans people not have? (talking about the UK here) Thank you!

A third question, I think you have excluded trans men from your thinking, trans men can compete in women's events, can't they?

I am interested in people's views on gender rights and how it correlates with their age.

My experience is that GenX, millennials, and GenZ each have very different definitions of what constitute trans rights.

As a genx individual, I think I support trans people, but my genz offspring finds my particular views and boundaries bigoted. I in turn think her particular method of support actively discriminates against other lgb individuals and in many ways doesn’t do enough to protect trans adults.

we both have good intentions, we just have very different approaches to the same issue. Which one of us is right or wrong is defined by who asks the survey question.

So you can acknowledge that a man is not a woman for sporting reasons but everywhere else is fine, yes?

39 and gender critical.

I don't believe there are any 'trans rights' needed.

They can be a human being like us all and wear whatever the fuck they want but beyond that, what rights do they possibly need that don't include getting into women's spaces

What do you mean specifically by trans rights ? You are expressing gender critical views with your comment about trans athletes.

The quote that you opened with, where is it from? Or is it an essay question you drew up?

Do you want us to do your homework for you?

If it helps, I'm 175 and I like crumpets.

Yeh yeh OP! On the upside - when all these 'older' women retire and don't have to worry about losing their job for speaking out and don't need to worry about bringing their kids up anymore I suspect many of them will be creating merry-havoc speaking out about all the trans-stuff. Dangerous times ahead when many more 'older' women will be able to get actively involved in TERFing.

@ADoggyDogWorld if trans men are taking testosterone I think they would be excluded from professional women's sports.

Trans women shouldn't be in women's sports, rape centres, jails, toilets, etc
Puberty blockers are not reversible and can actively cause harm

My 3 eldest dc are gender critical, they are 33, 31 and 25. My younger 2 are full on woke at 20 and 15. I also would like to know which trans rights you support? I don't see how someone can think that trans women for example should be afforded the right to use women's bathroom and changing facilities, but not to compete against women in sports? I mean they are either women or they are not.

You mean they were indoctrinated as children? And what are trans rights?

So you are including yourself OP in the mumsnet gender critical midfle aged group you talk of.

Is this a poorly veiled attempt to posit anti- trans views as pertaining to Gammons and Karens, ie people who are inferior, ill educated, racist, stupid, old etc etc. Thank you for outlining your views - I feel blessed to have received such pearls of wisdom.

Please answer this, op. We're waiting with bated breath for enlightenment.

What rights do transpeople not have?

What gives you the impression those generations overwhelmingly support trans people as opposed to being too scared to speak out?

Also your forgetting the people you claim are opposed are the ones who RAISED the ones who support trans people does that make any sense to you?

Can you elaborate on the "trans rights" bit? Trans rights are human rights, indeed. What ADDITIONAL rights, over and above human rights, would you give transpeople?

How are puberty blockers a grey area? It is the same drugs used to castrate homosexuals in the past. Anyone not opposed to castrating kids needs an intervention IMHO.

Yes indeed because of doping. But OP made no mention of trans men, just wabbled on about excepting trans athletes from competing in woman's events - this indicated to me that the OP is only interested in trans identified men (some call these men trans women). So once again men are being centred in discussion. #patriarchy

Early 40s, men are men and women are women. “Trans” is not a real thing.

Millennials and Gen Z tend to be overwhelmingly supportive of trans people, having grown up in a more inclusive environment

Firstly, millennials and Gen Z, along with people over 45, are not homogenous groups.
If they have ‘grown up in a more inclusive environment’ why is racism still a thing? Why do people also exclude the opinions of older people? I think you’ll find that everyone on Mumsnet is pretty supportive of all people having equal rights.
The right to medical care, to jobs, to a home, to education and so on.
Inclusivity doesn’t mean that everyone regardless of their demographic should get exactly the same thing. One crucial aspect we discriminate on is age. Only babies and toddlers get to go to nursery. Only 5 - 11 year olds get to go to Primary school. Only 11 - 16/7/8 year olds get to go to secondary school. Educations is exclusionary!! We also discriminate bot positively and negatively on disability. The Paralympic Games is extremely exclusive. There are very specific categories that athletes can be included in. I mean, Usain Bolt was totally excluded from competing in the T61-64 category! (Lower limb/s competing with prosthesis affected by limb deficiency and leg length difference)

The sort of Inclusion TRAs are demanding is homophobic - claiming that heterosexual males who say they are female must be lesbians. It’s a safeguarding nightmare - if girls don't include boys in their single sex changing room they’re bigoted. AGP teachers who rock up to classes in extreme fake breasts and mini skirts demanding students to deny the reality of their eyes and call them Miss or else be punished.
Don’t talk to me about inclusion. It’s extremely exclusive.