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SamW98 · 29/03/2024 08:08

tiberseptim · 29/03/2024 00:38

In the days before formula milk was invented it was common for women other than a mother to breastfeed a baby, even the grandmother. Haven't you heard of a "wet-nurse"?

And wet nurses were invaluable to ensure the health of the infant. They weren’t all about the validation or a middle aged man with a sick fetish.

This bit ‘She reported unforeseen benefits, including female gender affirmation and full breast maturation’ - says it all. This isn’t about the welfare, health and nutrition of the baby who is too young to consent to this hideous experiment. Its purely to validate a selfish man’s sexual fetish.

How can anyone not find this grotesque?

borntobequiet · 29/03/2024 08:08

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Signalbox · 29/03/2024 09:05

tiberseptim · 29/03/2024 00:38

In the days before formula milk was invented it was common for women other than a mother to breastfeed a baby, even the grandmother. Haven't you heard of a "wet-nurse"?

Lol, the idea that anyone who cared about keeping a child alive and seeing it thrive would have selected a man with a fetish as a wet nurse. People have lost their tiny minds.

bellinisurge · 29/03/2024 09:17

Many people need to be struck off and some need to be in prison for this

PurpleBugz · 29/03/2024 09:32

Wet nurse's still exist today. You have to have all kinds of tests (incl STI you can pass syphilis from breastfeeding for example) and agree to strict diet so the milk is fully nutritional and no alcohol or drugs allowed. Prescription drugs need declaring and probably means your milk won't be acceptable. A natal woman, taking the drugs required to cause male lactation would not pass scrutiny and would not be allowed to be a wet nurse. In the past, obviously it wasn't regulated, but these days it really is and it's so rare- more often, nowadays people will buy frozen, breastmilk and bottle feed it. You can actually make good money for selling frozen milk- some of it will go to babies. put a load of it goes to bodybuilders and fetish

nothingcomestonothing · 29/03/2024 09:40

You can actually make good money for selling frozen milk- some of it will go to babies. put a load of it goes to bodybuilders and fetish

And here's me thinking that a grandfather having his fetish involving a baby enabled by medical professionals was the worse thing on this thread. 9.30 in the morning and already that's enough internet for today

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 29/03/2024 09:48

There are a load of men online who are obsessed with the health benefits of breastmilk for adults.

Also some men for whom it's very much a fetish. There are some very confused boys and men around. I ran into a reddit thread from a teenage girl whose boyfriend dumped her because she didn't produce milk when they had sex for the first time.

Whatever porn he'd been watching (I suspect hentai), it had left him convinced that if a woman didn't produce breastmilk during sex, she was lying about whether she'd orgasmed.

Signalbox · 29/03/2024 09:49

nowadays people will buy frozen, breastmilk and bottle feed it.

I wonder how many people opt to buy the drug induced man’s milk to feed their babies?

ChishiyaBat · 29/03/2024 10:11

tiberseptim · 29/03/2024 00:38

In the days before formula milk was invented it was common for women other than a mother to breastfeed a baby, even the grandmother. Haven't you heard of a "wet-nurse"?

Another woman not a man with a fetish!

Helleofabore · 29/03/2024 10:24

Why don’t we ever hear about how those male people who are secreting a substance from their breasts, offering their frozen goods to those other males fetishising breast milk?

Is it because the fantasy needs infants ? Is it because the male purchasers require the milk to come from female people?

I mean, if an endocrinologist has no qualms about allowing a child to be abused, would they then provide the service and induce the secretions if the male person said they were doing it so their male partners could breastfeed directly? Where is the endocrinologists boundary before they say ‘no’? Is there one?

Datun · 29/03/2024 11:21

Helleofabore · 29/03/2024 10:24

Why don’t we ever hear about how those male people who are secreting a substance from their breasts, offering their frozen goods to those other males fetishising breast milk?

Is it because the fantasy needs infants ? Is it because the male purchasers require the milk to come from female people?

I mean, if an endocrinologist has no qualms about allowing a child to be abused, would they then provide the service and induce the secretions if the male person said they were doing it so their male partners could breastfeed directly? Where is the endocrinologists boundary before they say ‘no’? Is there one?

Quite.

I'm going to bet there isn't a single man on the planet who wants to buy the frozen secretions of another man, either for bodybuilding, fetish, or to enjoy thinking about 'breast maturation' 🤮🤮🤮

Fortunately, almost everyone can tell, at a glance, that this is a sexual fetish. And even those for whom AGP isn't something they like to acknowledge, can see this is a bridge too far.

Men talking about inducing nipple secretions and 'feeding' babies don't stand a fucking chance in hell of ever saying anything about it, discussing it, or writing about it, without it coming across as really quite disturbingly nasty.

Heylo · 29/03/2024 21:18

Yes, common for women. Not a man cos playing as a woman. Talk about a forced dichotomy. Classic TRA tactic trying to oversimplify the situation.

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Helleofabore · 29/03/2024 22:16

metoclopramide 10 mg three times daily

So, there seems to be something going on here with this 'case'. How come this male person was permitted to feed an infant while on this drug when women are told to avoid it when breastfeeding..... it really doesn't seem that the endocrinologist put this infant first at all.

https://bnf.nice.org.uk/drugs/metoclopramide-hydrochloride/

Metoclopramide hydrochloride | Drugs | BNF content published by NICE

View metoclopramide hydrochloride information, including dose, uses, side-effects, renal impairment, pregnancy, breast feeding, contra-indications and important safety information.

https://bnf.nice.org.uk/drugs/metoclopramide-hydrochloride

Codlingmoths · 29/03/2024 22:51

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 29/03/2024 09:48

There are a load of men online who are obsessed with the health benefits of breastmilk for adults.

Also some men for whom it's very much a fetish. There are some very confused boys and men around. I ran into a reddit thread from a teenage girl whose boyfriend dumped her because she didn't produce milk when they had sex for the first time.

Whatever porn he'd been watching (I suspect hentai), it had left him convinced that if a woman didn't produce breastmilk during sex, she was lying about whether she'd orgasmed.

She was definitely lying if she said she orgasmed with this boy 😁

StealthSpinach · 29/03/2024 22:55

All the people involved in this sick experiment should be forced to consume “milk” produced by bulls dosed with chemicals that make them lactate.
They are disgusting with their absolute disregard for a defenceless infant.

  • Edited for grammar.
NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 29/03/2024 23:03

Codlingmoths Grin

PomegranateOfPersephone · 01/04/2024 08:12

There are currently no longer any breastfeeding charities in the UK which are exclusively for mothers. They are all now for “parents”, “families” and/or “everyone”.

Volunteer breastfeeding counsellors in some charities are expected to support penis people to breastfeed, if they refuse to, they will have their status as breastfeeding counsellors removed by the charity they volunteer with. If you are a volunteer breastfeeding counsellor I urge you to check with the charity you volunteer with to be clear what they expect of their volunteers.

A new organisation is desperately needed at this point if none of the existing ones can be persuaded to protect mothers and babies.

pickledandpuzzled · 01/04/2024 08:20

In addition to the present issue of the welfare of the baby and the granddad’s abuse, I thought the line about having been unable to breastfeed his own children was interesting.

It suggests to me that his envy of his wife and her bond with their babies was deep and old. It really shrieks of narcissism- resentment that his babies need their mom more than him, and resentment that his wife now has other priorities. Really deep seated resentment that he isn’t centred in those relationships.

FannyCann · 01/04/2024 15:21

There are currently no longer any breastfeeding charities in the UK which are exclusively for mothers. They are all now for “parents”, “families” and/or “everyone”.

And that is why there has been such an emphasis on changing language. As soon as breastfeeding discussions are for "families" mothers are excluded from the discussion. Which leads directly to this case.

It's mind boggling that HCPs would discuss/encourage and facilitate a man to feed a grandchild (I can't use the word breast or even chest in the context) or even his own child without including the mother in the discussion and ascertaining her understanding and consent and absence of coercion / domestic abuse.

But here we are. A collective total loss of common sense, understanding of safeguarding and responsibility to mothers and babies.

crunchermuncher · 01/04/2024 15:25

pickledandpuzzled · 01/04/2024 08:20

In addition to the present issue of the welfare of the baby and the granddad’s abuse, I thought the line about having been unable to breastfeed his own children was interesting.

It suggests to me that his envy of his wife and her bond with their babies was deep and old. It really shrieks of narcissism- resentment that his babies need their mom more than him, and resentment that his wife now has other priorities. Really deep seated resentment that he isn’t centred in those relationships.

I had this when mine was tiny. Ex H wouldn't leave me to get on with getting to establish bf, had to keep prodding and stroking the baby to 'reassure' him. Like he needed reassurance at his mother's breast! Was perpetually angry with me for being able to do something he couldn't. It was horrible.

upthehill24 · 01/04/2024 17:42

We must stop using the Cult language: Nobody can 'Transition'. There is no such thing: Nobody is "Trans" anything: Y chromosomes are permanent, for MEN.

Another thread shows what else is coming to U.K. this year, under Cult- worshipping Labour: In Cult- worshipping Canada, they not only approve feeding babies the chemical secretions from men, they approve it when the men are HIV positive.

Nantescalling · 15/04/2024 02:10

upthehill24 · 01/04/2024 17:42

We must stop using the Cult language: Nobody can 'Transition'. There is no such thing: Nobody is "Trans" anything: Y chromosomes are permanent, for MEN.

Another thread shows what else is coming to U.K. this year, under Cult- worshipping Labour: In Cult- worshipping Canada, they not only approve feeding babies the chemical secretions from men, they approve it when the men are HIV positive.

How can any 'charity' promote spreading HIV?

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