Trans women feeding chemical ridden milk to babies - approved by NHS

[Heylo]

Are people aware of this?
This has gone too far. Throwing women and children under a bus is one thing. Now babies.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13095965/Row-hospitals-say-hormone-filled-milk-trans-women-born-male-just-good-baby-real-thing.html?ito=native_share_article-top

Gosh that must have been so hard - well done for trying for so long and I'm so glad to hear your 3 year old is thriving now. It all seems so overwhelming at the time though, I can well imagine how on your knees you were.

I obviously know you didn't @ChatBFP but for the purposes of showing the differences between the behaviour of mothers and men: did you have a massive strop at the GP about denying your existence and invalidating your identity when they told you to switch to formula for your baby because the GP thought that was safer? Go onto twitter to claim that you were discriminated against and lobby the NHS trust to make statements full of lies with no scientific backing?

Well, no, because being a decent parent is bloody hard work and a full-time job and people doing it don't have time to piss away on this sort of navel gazing, anti-safeguarding shit.

Social services need to be involved with any baby used to validate a man by sucking on his nipple

Yes. And there's a real push to keep it confusing.

I'm not sure if the rules have relaxed, but we were deleted from this very site for saying trans identified male.

Anything that doesn't pretend that these men are women is targeted.

I don't blame people for being confused. I do blame them for calling other people names because of it though!

Agreed. Heylo wrt to: I’ve had enough! It’s vulnerable, working class women who will suffer the most for this.

If anyone needs to be reminded of the trauma some women experience and a trauma that is triggered by erasure of language around motherhood and being a woman, listen to Ciara's powerful testimony about pre-term birth and her care here. Actual start 16.32.40

https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/f4b617ac-7549-4cd7-b4e7-52dca0fd0c22?in=16:32:34

I admire her for speaking her truth although her voice shook. And for setting up, Little Heartbeats.

Social services need to be involved with any baby used to validate a man by sucking on his nipple

Yoy know, I have really been thinking this.

The relevant local social services department need to be pulled in here to safeguard the welfare of the babies being used as tools for validating these men.

Parenting 101 - having the capacity to be able to put your child’s needs ahead of your own. Usually, any hint you can’t; and social services will be breathing down your neck, quite rightly.

I sincerely hope they are doing so here, but suspect they will be equally captured and craven.

ADoggyDogWorld · Today 11:34

I genuinely thought that a TW was a woman who wished she were a man and that a TM was a man who wished he were a woman.

Yes, I was confused at first, too. Loads of people are!

This !

Emma Hilton makes a great point about how that moobfeeding case study didn't explain how, if at all, the researchers verified that the milk actually came from the male in question: https://twitter.com/FondOfBeetles/status/1760391430369947675

She compares it to sports doping checks where officials will watch the athlete urinate to ensure there's no piss swapping.

Yes. I wondered. I also pointed out that for any evaluation of this substance to be robust it would need many samples, all verified that they were given, all verified about the drug regime and all verified for quantity.

I think it is quite clear there is significant doubt about the quantity produced and feeding an infant ‘exclusively’ for 6 weeks that was declared healthy. Either the infant was malnourished, the male lied or the other study that correlated with the quantity was wrong too. Or by some miracle, the male person’s capacity miraculously increased?

It is fucking negligent of the Trust to have doubled down like this. And the BBC!

.......Can you read my original post? You may not be discussing women, but I was, with reference to the fact that they in some cases take the same medication as trans women (sorry, not trans men) and so I'd be interested in the objective danger level. Then some genius said that that means my friend, who is a woman, is trans. Well done...

If you write "transman" that is what people read.
The mistake is yours. You are the genius here.

Then I suggest you read the thread for the ‘objective danger’. Your point has already been discussed. However, you are the person who made the mistake, you are the one that then abused posters by calling them names. Own your own behaviour.

God this is disgusting. I bottle fed my babies but even I know that breastfeeding is not just about feeding the baby. Allowing men to do this shows a complete lack of awareness of what breastfeeding is/does. We already have a perfectly good solution for when mothers can't or choose not to breastfeed. There is no need for this. Why was a single.penny even spent on this. Arent there a million other things, like infertility, pre term birth, miscarriage , etc that the time and money could have gone into. Why when babies have a mother and formular is even sold at petrol stations, was this even considered.

And what kind of man/male would want to do this and why?

https://x.com/millihill/status/1759913352967397863?t=HYHbHQ4Gm1uY2rHgqa0JHg&s=09

If you haven't seen this. I would thoroughly recommend as she's taken the trouble to dig into the story. The truth is depressing and concerning.

Rachel Meade's trial suggests social work organisations are captured and therefore unable to protect babies in this situation.

And it is why we need social workers like Rachel Meade.

I'm getting honestly a bit fed up about all the guff and lies about the composition of the secretions. I don't care, I'm sure if proper tests were done it would be unfit for babies to consume but even before we get to this point we have to ask if it's in the baby's best interests and it quite clearly is not - so we don't need to move beyond that.

There is - at the very least - the potential for paedophilia here. Why are social services not all over this making sure babies aren't being abused?

And THIS is why language is important.
The thread ran on because you did not come back to correct your mistake, so people obviously took what you wrote as what you MEANT.

As for your question, TW are NOT on the same drug schedule as natal women, they are also on testosterone blockers and much higher levels of lactation stimulants. It has already been proven that domperidone can cause heart arrythmias in humans, and the long term effects of testosterone and testosterone blockers are not known.

But anyway, who gives a shit about what drugs they are on.
The point is that people (and I use that term loosely) are advocating for MEN TO ALLOW BABIES TO SUCK ON THEIR NIPPLES.

MEN.

If you are doing mental gymnastics to somehow make this acceptable in your mind, you have lost the fucking plot.

It's all on a par with the wholesale denial of risk.

Ignoring that almost all paedophiles are men. Ignoring that almost all sex offences are committed by men. Ignoring that the potential for exploiting any loopholes will be made by men.

Ignoring autogynephilia. Which, in my opinion, is the entire basis for this push for men to breastfeed children.

Of course, paedophiles will jump on the bandwagon like there's no tomorrow. I bet they can't wait. Being able to legitimately abuse children, and even get good press for it?

Every day is Christmas.

Excellent Spectator piece on the many sorry aspects of this business.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/when-trans-rights-trump-babies-rights/

take the same medication as trans women (sorry, not trans men)

Yes. Your mistake, not other posters'.

archive is will give you what you need to access the Wakefield Spectator article.

University Hospitals Sussex Trust is a member of Stonewall’s ‘Diversity Champions’ programme and it has admitted that it took advice from ‘external organisations’ when it cooked up its breastfeeding policy. It’s like listening to hostage victims read from statements prepared for them by their kidnappers. Say just what we’ve practised, Mr McCarthy, or your diversity score gets it.

On Monday night, the BBC chose to discuss the man-milk affair with a young woman called Kate Luxion, an unqualified ‘trainee lactation consultant’ and a researcher at UCL. With a composed and serious expression, Luxion insisted that not only was man milk safe, but ‘studies’ had actually found that a trans woman’s milk contained more nutrients than the milk of a baby’s mother…

The BBC didn’t think it necessary to quiz the trainee consultant, to examine the study she cited or to ask how it could possibly be true that trans milk is actually suddenly more nutritious than the milk from a biological mother. Neither the babies nor the truth matter any more.

UltraLiteLife

can you explain what I actually have to type to access the archive. I've tried several different versions, and I'm obviously not getting it right.

Its a sexual fetish, lets be honest. The baby is the prop.

Sent a DM.

In general: go to https://archive.ph/ or is or whichever version works for you (it varies for me)

paste the article's URL in the top box and it will show whether someone has archived it. If there is a result, or a calendar load of them, you can select it to see the archived item.

I posted this on the "Human Milk ffS" thread a couple of days ago but am reposting here. It seems to me that it is a no-brainer that social services should be investigating any man who believes he is a woman (imo we need to stop using the trans word in these discussions) who is doing this to a baby. There's a virtual paper trail for some of these men.

(trigger warning)
Crown Prosecution's Website. Sexual Offences Act 2003 – offences against children. From Chapter 7, Section 8: Causing or inciting a child under 13 to engage in sexual activity.

'A child under 13 does not, under any circumstances, have the legal capacity to consent to any form of sexual activity.'

'These are offences of strict liability as to age. The prosecution has to prove only two facts.
First, the intentional sexual activity and
Second, the age of the complainant at the date of the sexual activity, using, for example, a certified copy of a birth certificate together with evidence of identity.'

@ButterflyHatched your pretend misunderstanding of many posters on this thread is irritating enough but your faux empathy for the poster struggling with breastfeeding, in the post where you pretend to believe she is somehow blaming "trans women" for the inequality of her treatment, is fucking cringe-inducing and trashy.