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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Another GC employment tribunal. Adam's vs Edinburgh Rape Crsis

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Rainbowshit · 15/01/2024 10:04

x.com/tribunaltweets/status/1746830866020442400?s=46&t=AjtjSItRj-kgZwRzL-pdyQ

Claiming constructive dismissal for GC beliefs.

ERC CEO is a well known transwoman know for controversial "reframe your trauma" remarks.

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Justabaker · 17/01/2024 13:27

popebishop · 17/01/2024 12:58

I assume the emails and messages aren't available to the viewing public?

Addendum to previous reply - bundles never available in electronic form.

They tried in Bailey vs Garden Court but it would never load and open properly. That's the only time there has been an attempt and that was when tribunals were all remote during Covid.

Rightsraptor · 17/01/2024 13:32

Are they still at lunch? I've got my PIN etc, logged on but have a blank screen.

Justabaker · 17/01/2024 13:34

Rightsraptor · 17/01/2024 13:32

Are they still at lunch? I've got my PIN etc, logged on but have a blank screen.

Yes until 2 pm.

Rainbowshit · 17/01/2024 13:34

LipbalmOrKnickers · 17/01/2024 11:28

Male contacted single-sex service, was told did not offer support to men & signposted to alternative service, demanded should be supported, demand upheld by the man now in charge of single-sex service. 🙄

This is a disgrace isn't it? Males are given access to a female service, signposting them to something suitable isn't enough, but someone asking for a singles sex service is not even signposted to alternatives.

This should be pursued as that is clear discrimination.

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Rainbowshit · 17/01/2024 13:37

I'm also shocked that a colleague was wishing death on people but referring to a nb colleague as female at birth was seen as disrespectful. It's one rule for them and one rule for everyone else isn't it?

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GCITC · 17/01/2024 13:54

My mind can't comprehend how such a calm and reasoned email simply asking a question could be met with such batshittery.

Roz's crime?

She asked in an email if, when replying to a service user requesting a woman support worker, she could refer to a non binary employee as 'born a woman at birth but now identifies as non binary'.

The punishment?

An investigation into Roz, the non binary employee in question writing to staff that 'transphobes would die out quicky' after referencing said email, and the same employee being told they would have no further contact with Roz.

I find myself surprised at how I'm still surprised by this shit.

Rightsraptor · 17/01/2024 13:56

Thanks, @Justabaker - it gave me time to catch up on the TT X thread.

So the complaintant was accused of being overly sensitive while being expected to tippy toe on eggshells around everyone else.

It really seems to have gone from 0 to 60 in an incredibly short time.

EquaOppsSexNotGender · 17/01/2024 14:00

I know RA slightly IRL, and she is indeed an intelligent, thoughtful, compassionate woman committed to social justice. Very shocked that ERC has gone this way.

Roz, if you read this, well done you!

IamSarah · 17/01/2024 14:04

EquaOppsSexNotGender · 17/01/2024 14:00

I know RA slightly IRL, and she is indeed an intelligent, thoughtful, compassionate woman committed to social justice. Very shocked that ERC has gone this way.

Roz, if you read this, well done you!

This is lovely and not surprising. She seems incredibly principled and it's clear she really cares about survivors.

I hope RA is reading this and knows how many women are sending her our very best wishes.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2024 14:10

If you look at all these cases, it's interesting how "non binary people" are often right at the centre of them.

Signalbox · 17/01/2024 14:11

Is anyone in yet? I'm still in the waiting room.

Rightsraptor · 17/01/2024 14:13

I thought it was just me! I have the blank screen still.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 17/01/2024 14:14

Still WFTCHTJ here.

Rightsraptor · 17/01/2024 14:14

Do they tell you that you are in the waiting room? Not sure if I should be worried about the black screen

HarpQuartet · 17/01/2024 14:15

Still waiting

Signalbox · 17/01/2024 14:15

Rightsraptor · 17/01/2024 14:14

Do they tell you that you are in the waiting room? Not sure if I should be worried about the black screen

You should be hearing a message saying "waiting for the host to join" if you are in the waiting room.

Justabaker · 17/01/2024 14:15

Ereshkigalangcleg · 17/01/2024 14:10

If you look at all these cases, it's interesting how "non binary people" are often right at the centre of them.

Going Crazy GIF

Indeed and the 'agrieved' NB never gives evidence. I think that one of the Stonewall employees in Bailey vs Garden Court Chambers was trans identified, possibly NB. That's the one with the support dog, mother and solicitor all in the room with the person. (don't want to get booted for misgendering....)

The defence team usually must interview them and decide that they ....um....won't help the defence because.....well just because.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 17/01/2024 14:16

@Rightsraptor - did you select video & audio on on first screen? They are from the tribunal's end so you need them to see & hear.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 17/01/2024 14:20

Welcome to the conference!

WinterLobelia · 17/01/2024 14:21

Thanks for posting all this, everyone. I'm following via this thread.

Does it say how may observers there are for this one?

Signalbox · 17/01/2024 14:21

🤓cameras and mics off everyone

LipbalmOrKnickers · 17/01/2024 14:22

34 currently including court bods.

LipbalmOrKnickers · 17/01/2024 14:23

Just discussing time lost and how to make most of what remains.

WinterLobelia · 17/01/2024 14:23

Thanks @LipbalmOrKnickers

LipbalmOrKnickers · 17/01/2024 14:25

Going to attempt to hear all evidence before next Wed & then consider how to proceed.

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