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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

World Athletics

319 replies

rioseco · 23/03/2023 17:14

Press conference by Seb Coe stating that male to female transgender athletes who have gone through male puberty will be excluded from female competition!
At last.

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MissPollysFitDolly · 23/03/2023 17:26

Great news, well done to everyone that's made this possible. Terrible shame it needs to be fought in the first place. Hopefully they can clarify what's to happen at the lower levels.

Fenlandia · 23/03/2023 17:27

Hallefuckinglujah

Pixiedust1234 · 23/03/2023 17:27

To the posters saying its a shame about the DSD athletes. Just how many are there competing at top level?

Bunshaped · 23/03/2023 17:27

Good news, but the BBC's wording around this issue gives me the rage:

World Athletics has banned transgender female athletes from competing in the female category
is confusing, it reads as if they're talking about FtM not MtF
They are not female.

We're not saying no forever
WTF? Why?

Madcats · 23/03/2023 17:28

Theeyeballsinthesky · 23/03/2023 17:18

Thank fuck for that!

It's mad that people were even considering that it could be made fair.

MrsMitford3 · 23/03/2023 17:28

Hope Sharron Davies having a well earned glass of fizz tonight!!!

Birdsweepsin · 23/03/2023 17:30

Evan Davies on PM Radio 4 hasn't mentioned it so far...

greenacrylicpaint · 23/03/2023 17:30

wow wow wow

ZeldaFighter · 23/03/2023 17:30

BonfireLady · 23/03/2023 17:23

Wow! This is huge news. Common sense is prevailing!

Agreed re DSD athletes but hopefully anyone who this affects will be treated with compassion. It's a separate issue, so hopefully will be kept that way.

Exactly- compassion all the way.

I was moved to tears reading about Caster Semenya and how she's been treated, way before all the gender stuff started.

I hope she can be treated with the respect she deserves.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 23/03/2023 17:31

This is fantastic news. Hopefully Common sense remains!

Bunshaped · 23/03/2023 17:32

Birdsweepsin · 23/03/2023 17:30

Evan Davies on PM Radio 4 hasn't mentioned it so far...

Ha! I wonder if they'll leave it til tomorrow, it's the female presenter on Fridays isn't it?

RedToothBrush · 23/03/2023 17:34

Oh joy!

How will the US, Canada, NZ etc cope with having to tell the difference between a man and a woman for events on their soil then?

Will world athletics be at odds with their laws or will these countries magically be able to see sex instead of gender when someone puts on a running strip? (Linford Christie eat your heart out...)

Will these governments decide to throw their weight around or will they suck it up in the face of evidence? If they suck it up with evidence, how does the rest of the house of cards remain standing in terms of the Emperor's new clothes?

Interesting...

BeginningToLookALotLike · 23/03/2023 17:35

Good news.

JeannieDark · 23/03/2023 17:35

Amazing news! About time too! Hopefully there will be a trickle down effect to non Olympic level too.

rioseco · 23/03/2023 17:36

So...er are they not women then?
Question to Starmer/Nandy/Yousaf/Drayford et al.

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LizzieSiddal · 23/03/2023 17:37

We're not saying no forever
WTF? Why?

They are setting up a group which will keep an eye out for any emerging science. I’m really not bothered by this, because the day they prove men do not have an advantage over women in sport, will never come.
I think the group is being set up so they can’t be accused of hating trans people.

MidgeHardcastle · 23/03/2023 17:39

Gosh, such good news. I have felt the tide turning in little steps recently but this is a HUGE leap in the return to common sense. Go Seb!

LizzieSiddal · 23/03/2023 17:39

Evan is talking about it now!!

LizzieSiddal · 23/03/2023 17:40

He’s Interviewing The Guardians sports writer. Hmm

Bunshaped · 23/03/2023 17:40

LizzieSiddal · 23/03/2023 17:39

Evan is talking about it now!!

And stumbling over his words!
Weasel.

Untitledsquatboulder · 23/03/2023 17:41

"Fairness over inclusion". Damn right.

NancyDrawed · 23/03/2023 17:41

I opened this thread with trepidation

Delighted to see that common sense is currently prevailing

SirSamVimesCityWatch · 23/03/2023 17:41

Great news.

I'm hoping that there will be a trickle down effect. If a country cannot field a TW in a women's athletics event at world level, there is less reason to give them a place on a training route that it designed to funnel athletes to the top. (And thereby deprive an actual female of a place.)

LizzieSiddal · 23/03/2023 17:41

“Sen Coe believes Female sport must be prioritised, and that has shocked many people” Angry

BettyFilous · 23/03/2023 17:43

Birdsweepsin · 23/03/2023 17:30

Evan Davies on PM Radio 4 hasn't mentioned it so far...

When I heard that the press conference was at 4.30 I wondered if Evan was just going to ignore it. 😄

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