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What if you're all wrong about KJK? Even her own security have serious concerns

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andarounditgoesagain · 20/03/2023 09:54

Her own security are saying she's courting trouble for views, knowingly putting them in danger, that she has no human connection with people but her fans don't notice as they hero-worship her and see what they want to see, and that the end game is she's after becoming a talking head in the US, and that SFW women are just pawns she's using to get there.

twitter.com/Fair_Maiden1/status/1637529465126285312

She seems more and more like a Katie Hopkins type who's leeching off our movement.

I used to love her, before I get accused of jealousy. I still love the approach of platforming women who don't usually get a chance to be heard.

But actual nazis are now turning up at women's rights events - precisely because KJK refused to denounce them and has been courting the far right for ages. It's not a coincidence.

What does she have to do before women realise she's using us?
At what point do women accept KJK is toxic and damaging our movement?

If those closest to her have serious concerns - shouldn't you?

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Datun · 21/03/2023 00:40

Onnabugeisha · 20/03/2023 23:18

She is doing bold things and making waves and sacrificing off her own back,

What has she sacrificed? Nothing that I can see.

She is doing what she's doing and it's working.

What has she accomplished other than to whip up hatred and harden opposition to women’s rights?

What has she accomplished other than to whip up hatred and harden opposition to women’s rights?

Oh dear. This is why you will never, ever get it. Your misogyny prevents you from seeing it. It limits and restricts you at every turn.

What she has accomplished, is

Letting.
Women.
Speak.

They speak. In public. With an audience. They talk about their experiences at the hands of trans-ideology. Their targeted children, their captured workplaces, their cross dressing husbands.

Other women listen. It's a shared experience. It's solidarity. It's warmth and support and recognition. They are cheered and clapped. Hugged and grinned at.

Hundreds, and hundreds of women across the world are speaking out.

This is what she has accomplished.

You are incapable of seeing it. To you, it's nothing.

You'll never feel it. Ever.

landOFconfusion · 21/03/2023 00:45

Datun · 21/03/2023 00:40

What has she accomplished other than to whip up hatred and harden opposition to women’s rights?

Oh dear. This is why you will never, ever get it. Your misogyny prevents you from seeing it. It limits and restricts you at every turn.

What she has accomplished, is

Letting.
Women.
Speak.

They speak. In public. With an audience. They talk about their experiences at the hands of trans-ideology. Their targeted children, their captured workplaces, their cross dressing husbands.

Other women listen. It's a shared experience. It's solidarity. It's warmth and support and recognition. They are cheered and clapped. Hugged and grinned at.

Hundreds, and hundreds of women across the world are speaking out.

This is what she has accomplished.

You are incapable of seeing it. To you, it's nothing.

You'll never feel it. Ever.

What she has accomplished is getting women to donate money.

Please don’t forget the donations … they’re very important.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 21/03/2023 00:46

landOFconfusion · 21/03/2023 00:45

What she has accomplished is getting women to donate money.

Please don’t forget the donations … they’re very important.

Don’t forget all the merchandise sold - that’s going to account for a far greater net income than donations.

Very important.

Boiledbeetle · 21/03/2023 00:48

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 00:34

Yes. There are very often ways to use upgrades or free nights that have nothing to do with cash being spent.

It just sounds like more nasty aspersions, and more weird obsession on what other women spend money on.

hey arnold nickelodeon GIF

Yeah being extra special friends with the night front desk guy worked well for me when I spent over six months in one hotel. But I'm sure Kelly's not using the same method to get room upgrades and extra pots of uht milk that I used

Datun · 21/03/2023 00:49

landOFconfusion · 21/03/2023 00:45

What she has accomplished is getting women to donate money.

Please don’t forget the donations … they’re very important.

Indeed. Platforming hundreds of women across the world is priceless.

And don't forget the number of women, on this thread alone, giving KJK cash because of all the nonsense she has to put up with.

Thank you for your service.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 21/03/2023 00:50

One time, a thread pushed her sales up so much that she went back to MN to see what was going on: she gave a shout out to us on her stream!

Datun · 21/03/2023 00:51
Pay Me Kim Kardashian GIF by GQ

Me when I next seek Kels.

Boiledbeetle · 21/03/2023 00:53

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 21/03/2023 00:50

One time, a thread pushed her sales up so much that she went back to MN to see what was going on: she gave a shout out to us on her stream!

This one was thread based as well

What if you're all wrong about KJK? Even her own security have serious concerns
Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 00:53

Hey Bug. I got bored waiting for the name so I checked back to that post on the other thread. This is what you posted 19/03/2023 11:16.

Theres the long and overtly friendly podcast she did with white supremacist neo nazi Jean Gapriey in Canada. There’s the selfie of her with Holocaust denier Hans Johansen when she attended a known anti-Semite conference. The collaboration with the Christian Religious Right organisations in the US including using Proud Boy armed thugs as “personal security”. Plus her many friendly pod casts with Carl Benjamin, Hearts of Oak founder which replaced the Tommy Robinson’s EDL, on his Lotus Eaters channels. And that’s just from memory. I’m sure if I took the time to do more digging, I’d find more questionable shit she’s been up to lately.

It seems that the only mention of collaboration with an anti-Semite is the Steigan conference. As I suggested but you then fell into accusing me of sea lioning as a distraction.

I shall post my bit on Steigan again. You must have missed here AND on the other thread. Don’t worry, I will quote post it for you .

The OP seemed to ignore it too. And if that claim is just someone’s misrepresentation, it puts the other claims into a doubt too.

landOFconfusion · 21/03/2023 00:55

Give. Then give her even more. Don’t stop giving until you have nothing more to give.

KJK needs money. She especially needs your money.

Don’t stop donating. The grift won’t run by itself.

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 00:56

Helleofabore · 20/03/2023 21:49

Wow!!! you could have just posted either the WPUK link OR the sin page on the Brighton feminists website.

You have just regurgitated it all.

I did say to you this morning, that you could actually check back on other threads where all these have been addressed. In fact, I have just reposted this one today.

You have posted a tweet from Hans Johansen as some kind of evidence for Pal Steigan. How about you prove that Pal Steigan has denied the holocaust?

In the meantime, here are the other speakers for the conference that Steigan organised. And please note that Johansen got a selfie taken and KJK has been clear she did not know who he was. If you can find proof that Johansen was a speaker, great. Post it. I have spent time looking and found nothing.

So, the conference was organised by Steigan under the name Mot Dag. I encourage anyone to go out and find information about Pal Steigan because it is very interesting to see the lack of consistency about what this man believes. It seems that he is a Marxist who has made errors in judgement in the past, but continues to want to encourage discussion and freedom of speech. But is also now called 'far right'. It seems incongruous but a life long Marxist is now 'far right'.

He ran a conference on gender identity which Kellie Jay attended and spoke at. Here are the other speakers:

Marit Ronstad

She is discussing ROGD. You know, that medical phenomenon that does not happen according to extreme trans activists who are putting teenagers at significant risk through the denial?

Here is her profile on Genspect:

genspect.org/team/

(do you also want to denounce Marit, OP?)

Marit Halvorsen

A law professor discussing the impact of gender laws in Norway. She is one of Norway's leading health law experts and has a history in women's rights studies and campaigning.

(how about this Marit? want to denounce her too?)

Lars Akerhaug

Talking about the laws being passed around gender identity from an investigative journalist point of view. It seems that Lars is from the left.

And some music from Hungry Hearts performing Laika & Vagina Anthem.

The information says:

Hungry Hearts is a lesbian artist collective that has participated in over 50 international film festivals, the Norwegian "Høstutstillingen" (Autumn Exhibition), CODE, European Song Contest, and The Norwegian Opera with short films, concerts and performances. Hungry Hearts' first album Dyke Forever was released in 2016. In 2018, Hungry Hearts was refused to perform Vagina Anthem at Haugar Vestland Kunstmuseum after pressure from transactivists claiming Vagina Anthem could be perceived as offensive by some transgender people. The recording of the telephone call (in Norwegian) from the museum is part of the performance.

Tell us OP, are you going to denounce these speakers too? Or just Kellie Jay?

Do you understand she was speaking at a conference discussing the impacts of gender identity? Have you even bothered to listen to what she said there?

How interesting though is it that KJK's wikipedia page has been updated over the past months and this paragraph has been deleted:

"In February 2019, Keen traveled to Norway and posed for a photo with Hans Jørgen Lysglimt Johansen, a far-right Hungarian politician."

And after that version in October 2022, it was amended because it was this in January 2023:

"In February 2019, Keen traveled to Norway to speak at a red-brown Mot Dag conference alongside Hans Jørgen Lysglimt Johansen, a far-right Norwegian politician and Holocaust denialist, who she took a selfie with. Keen later said she didn't know who Lysglimt was.[2][42][43]"

Which was clearly bollocks because she wasn't 'alongside Hans Jørgen Lysglimt Johansen' for anything except a selfie.

Now it has been deleted. Yet is still being used as a blunt instrument to harm her despite any lack of evidence.

Yet, you are here repeating statements that actually never had any evidence. It came from something like a Pink News article. I am sure I could possibly find the original source.

Your 'evidence' is not robust. This was regurgitation of some very biased reporters very bad faith take.

This one is for @Onnabugeisha .

landOFconfusion · 21/03/2023 00:57

Datun · 21/03/2023 00:51

Me when I next seek Kels.

That’s the spirit!

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 00:58

landOFconfusion · 21/03/2023 00:55

Give. Then give her even more. Don’t stop giving until you have nothing more to give.

KJK needs money. She especially needs your money.

Don’t stop donating. The grift won’t run by itself.

Tell us, what do you do for females of any age?

Because last I checked you were speaking over the top of Māori women.

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 01:01

Speaking over a Māori woman on a feminist board no less!

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 21/03/2023 01:04

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 00:58

Tell us, what do you do for females of any age?

Because last I checked you were speaking over the top of Māori women.

And before that, saying he wanted to help oppressed women by denying them single-sex care, and forcing them to accept males washing their vulvas.

Here's another thread about Owen Jones and his history of treating jewish people like crap. Why won't the male left distance themselves from him?

twitter.com/lordmatzo/status/1266335374143631360

Don't miss the bit where it was revealed the picture agency that supplied the image, used on that book cover, had labelled it with the tag... anti-semitism.

twitter.com/EtanSmallman/status/1266351405889212416

Datun · 21/03/2023 01:05

landOFconfusion · 21/03/2023 00:57

That’s the spirit!

I'm sensing another visitor to welljelofkel.com

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 01:06

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 21/03/2023 01:04

And before that, saying he wanted to help oppressed women by denying them single-sex care, and forcing them to accept males washing their vulvas.

Here's another thread about Owen Jones and his history of treating jewish people like crap. Why won't the male left distance themselves from him?

twitter.com/lordmatzo/status/1266335374143631360

Don't miss the bit where it was revealed the picture agency that supplied the image, used on that book cover, had labelled it with the tag... anti-semitism.

twitter.com/EtanSmallman/status/1266351405889212416

Wow, I must have forgot that thread!

And I agree that Jones seems to be allowed so much leeway by the left.

Datun · 21/03/2023 01:06

Don’t worry, I will quote post it for you

That's just one of the things I love about you Helle, you're all heart.

SinnerBoy · 21/03/2023 01:07

Onnabugeisha · Today 00:12

You know. You just conveniently “forget” and go into sea lion mode on every thread.

Oh Physician, heal thyself!

SinnerBoy · 21/03/2023 01:09

As an aside, Onnabugeisha is an anagram of Ah, Abusing One.

landOFconfusion · 21/03/2023 01:12

You know nothing of my whakapapa, my tūrangawaewae, or my whenua.

Hie! Pōkokohua!

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 21/03/2023 01:13

Boiledbeetle · 21/03/2023 00:53

This one was thread based as well

If she really loved us, it would have been banana and weetabix.

I'm never giving her another penny!

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 01:14

Datun · 21/03/2023 01:06

Don’t worry, I will quote post it for you

That's just one of the things I love about you Helle, you're all heart.

Aren’t I?

The distraction tactics work for a bit until I work it out. Calling me a nickname while making the same lame pun on my username …suspicious… accusation of some form… well I just expect that these days… all because the poster didn’t want to name Steigan because there has been no evidence at all produced by that poster about Steigan’s motivations except for supporting free speech and holding a conference to discuss how gender identity and the proposed/introduced laws impacted children and women.

And plenty of evidence that there was nothing really controversial about the conference and Johansen, someone who allegedly has a history of Holocaust denial (I didnt check as it isn’t relevant) is not a person KJK ‘collaborated’ with at all. Just let Johansen take a selfie as a member of the audience getting a selfie with a conference speaker.

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 01:19

You know, we don’t need to know any Māori language to remember your disrespect for women on this board. I remember you very clearly speaking over a Māori women.

I also remember you victim blaming Fred Sargeant. Blaming him for being assaulted because he chose to peacefully protest at an event he was instrumental in starting.

But the discussion, I believe, was about what you have done for females of any age.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 21/03/2023 01:21

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 01:19

You know, we don’t need to know any Māori language to remember your disrespect for women on this board. I remember you very clearly speaking over a Māori women.

I also remember you victim blaming Fred Sargeant. Blaming him for being assaulted because he chose to peacefully protest at an event he was instrumental in starting.

But the discussion, I believe, was about what you have done for females of any age.

He probably has multiple subscriptions on OF, and considers himself an altruist for it.

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