What if you're all wrong about KJK? Even her own security have serious concerns

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Her own security are saying she's courting trouble for views, knowingly putting them in danger, that she has no human connection with people but her fans don't notice as they hero-worship her and see what they want to see, and that the end game is she's after becoming a talking head in the US, and that SFW women are just pawns she's using to get there.

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She seems more and more like a Katie Hopkins type who's leeching off our movement.

I used to love her, before I get accused of jealousy. I still love the approach of platforming women who don't usually get a chance to be heard.

But actual nazis are now turning up at women's rights events - precisely because KJK refused to denounce them and has been courting the far right for ages. It's not a coincidence.

What does she have to do before women realise she's using us?
At what point do women accept KJK is toxic and damaging our movement?

If those closest to her have serious concerns - shouldn't you?

That’s because sealioning is Hell’s speciality. We can’t have a single thread about KJK without her demanding every fact be re-hashed and reposted.

No. How bizarre that you cannot simply tell us all who you are referring to.

Is that because you don’t remember?

Or was it because you were referring to Steigan and well, that one doesn’t fly at all.

Oh… and now you are calling me ‘Hell’. Well. Thanks Bug. I shall resume calling you bug. Thank you.

Sealions tend to travel in pods.

No problem, you hell of a bore you.

If you actually answered, repeat questioning would be unnecessary.

That was a seal, not a sealion. They're completely different.

I know, but it matters to me. I'm off to bed now.

collaborating with know anti-Semitic personages.

It just gets nasty after the smearing stops working.

Always. Not nice people and here only to try to manipulate. Pretty shit at it.

It's Helle of a bore

Oh dear.

so, you cannot post something that stands up to scrutiny, but wish to accuse me of ‘sealioning’.

You don’t like clarifying things? You don’t like it that I seek the truth and understand people’s motivations?

We have different styles of posting. But the main difference is I seek truth and you seem to get stuck with dishonest claims and assertions. Maybe it is because you don’t ask enough questions.

Oh dear Bug.

That the best you can do? You didn’t land it the first time you tried it. What made you think you could land the joke/insult/whatever this time?

So...what are These ones?

Here's whatnhappened when KJK, before she'd really set out in her activism properly, got to speak to a high profile left wing Big Name radio presenter (read description for context)

I’m no expert but Cake has gone to bed so I will try and stand in for her and say ‘Seal’.

Considering this poster cannot seem to name the person who is the one they are labelling as an anti-semite, the smear is certainly not working.

Now posters are reduced to making crap up and hoping someone doesn’t ask questions.

A pod is the collective term for whales and dolphins. Google says that sea lions are colonies on land, and a raft in water.

Anyway. Owen Jones.

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Over the last week we have written an article each on Owen Jones. Although Owen and us are “of the left”, it’s fair to say that Owen occupies a different section to us two most of the time. We are variously described as Red Tories, Blue Labour, Blairites, liberal interventionists and neocons. Owen is none of those things. However Owen wrote an article on 15 March where he stated “anti-Semitism is a menace”. Condemnation of anti-Semitism is a binary choice and you either do or you don’t. So Owen’s condemnation was to be welcomed and here was something that we thought would unite Owen and us..But when we read his article we, independently of each other, found things that made us nervous. One week on and we have decided to write this conclusion to the discussion jointly.In 2004/5 Owen Jones was a student at Oxford. Although he describes his time at Oxford as a period where he didn’t really get involved in party politics he did take the time to edit Wikipedia entries on Israel, Hamas & Palestine. He has written today about those entries and sought to provide context, the main one being that he was very young (19) at the time.In these entries Owen did some of the following:

• He identified other contributors as Zionists and used this as the basis to refute the value of their contributions on the subject of Israel.
• He proclaimed that Jews were not an ethnic group, referring to “the notion of Jewish ethnicity” as “a lie” and used this as a device to undermine the case for Israel as the Jewish state, representing Jewish self-determination.
• He dismissed reference to Hamas suicide bombings as “West-centric”.
• He removed reference to Hamas war crimes as “unnecessary and out of place”.
• He stated that the main reason Israel’s boundaries are disputed is down to the occupation of the West Bank & (as it was then) Gaza, with no reference to other more structural causes from neighbouring states.
• He stated that “The Israeli occupation is one of THE most important issues of this period. Historians in the future will simply not understand the modern era without referring to the Israeli occupation of Palestine. Arab nationalism, Muslim-West hostility, Islamophobia, September 11th, Islamic terrorism, the “war on terror”, both Gulf Wars, the Afghan war – all of these issues which dominate our time cannot be understood without reference to the occupation of Palestine.”

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cute. That is what they are…

Also, the hotel thing:
In one of her Sydney videos, she points out the fabulous view from her hotel window. She says that her husband's career is not in hotels exactly but an adjacent industry and that is how she was able to have such a nice room. Perks, innit.

So what has been the empty claims made in the past hour?

Nazis on some ambiguous ‘side’.

An unnamed anti-Semite that KJK had collaborated with.

And that trans activist protestors out numbered women attending an unspecified SFW rally 10:1.

Anymore to add to the list?

Ah you stumbled on the true reason for my posting that gif.

Nothing gets past you.

Yes. There are very often ways to use upgrades or free nights that have nothing to do with cash being spent.

It just sounds like more nasty aspersions, and more weird obsession on what other women spend money on.

Well obviously the name of a person that collaborates with KJK that isn’t Pal Steigan has gotten past me, but then it is very late .

Your bird is just as freaky as you intended though.

omg 33 pages. Have any of the socks posters gone on a rant about her selling merchandise yet? I LOVE how much that winds him them up.

What an interesting thread there neighbourhood

From memory, KJK was banned from here because she refused to call a man a woman, or use the awful convoluted language that was suggested at the time. This was before MNHQ actually came up with the Special Rules for Feminists, and there was a lot of tomgue-tying going on trying to say what was meant in words that the mods would accept. It depended a bit upon which mod you got back then, some let you say things more accurately than others. KJK refused to back down despite convos with mods and so was banned.

That's what I remember; i must add that my memory is not at all faultless though.