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What if you're all wrong about KJK? Even her own security have serious concerns

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andarounditgoesagain · 20/03/2023 09:54

Her own security are saying she's courting trouble for views, knowingly putting them in danger, that she has no human connection with people but her fans don't notice as they hero-worship her and see what they want to see, and that the end game is she's after becoming a talking head in the US, and that SFW women are just pawns she's using to get there.

twitter.com/Fair_Maiden1/status/1637529465126285312

She seems more and more like a Katie Hopkins type who's leeching off our movement.

I used to love her, before I get accused of jealousy. I still love the approach of platforming women who don't usually get a chance to be heard.

But actual nazis are now turning up at women's rights events - precisely because KJK refused to denounce them and has been courting the far right for ages. It's not a coincidence.

What does she have to do before women realise she's using us?
At what point do women accept KJK is toxic and damaging our movement?

If those closest to her have serious concerns - shouldn't you?

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Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 00:01

Onnabugeisha · 20/03/2023 23:59

No it doesn’t have to be one or the other. Why do you think her events are outnumbered 10 to 1 by counter protesters? Because her messaging has gotten so extreme and full of hate, that most people are now associating sex based rights with her hate mongering.

Where are these events you are talking about now?

The Australian ones? Ones here in the UK? Which ones.

Because now you really are talking bollocks.

Hepwo · 21/03/2023 00:02

That was funny that OPs big reveal was the stupid Facebook group. Posters were calling it after a few pages!

People kept explaining these claims and smears were all over t'internet already and who the authors are, but she carried on with the air of righteousness only the truly naive but over confident can pull off .

I think this is a classic of the mansplaining genre.

How long till the next time.... it's like a fly wanders into their trap and gets hooked on the conspirators theories and shocked at people buying and selling, and spending, ugh so TRADE darling, head on over to mumsnet and educate the plebs.

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 00:02

No I take that back. You really are talking ‘more’ bollocks.

Onnabugeisha · 21/03/2023 00:03

Apollo441 · 20/03/2023 23:59

You're more than a cock. You're a small minded bigot whose chocolate teapot feminism has reached no one. You do not care about this issue and the effect on women and girls. From her actions and deeds KJK does. If you think she is doing it wrong, why don't you spend all your time showing us how it should be done. Until then why don't you piss off.

I think the appearance of neo-NAZIs on her side in support of her is a pretty good indicator that KJK is doing things very wrong indeed. And it’s been building up to this as four years ago she started collaborating with know anti-Semitic personages. This is well beyond “impurity” and into “shit storm”

landOFconfusion · 21/03/2023 00:03

DialSquare · 20/03/2023 23:38

I get my bonus on Friday. I'm going to donate to KJK se she can buy herself a lovely pair of expensive good quality leather sandals. Those boots must be too hot to wear in Australia.

Yes. You really should. Give her as much money as you can afford - and then give her some more.

Every dollar that you donate is a real poke in the eye for her opponents. You don’t need your bonus - she needs it more.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 21/03/2023 00:04

Apollo441 · 21/03/2023 00:01

Oh do please show this 'so extreme and full of hate'.

So extreme! So hateful!

What if you're all wrong about KJK? Even her own security have serious concerns
What if you're all wrong about KJK? Even her own security have serious concerns
What if you're all wrong about KJK? Even her own security have serious concerns
CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 21/03/2023 00:05

Onnabugeisha · 21/03/2023 00:03

I think the appearance of neo-NAZIs on her side in support of her is a pretty good indicator that KJK is doing things very wrong indeed. And it’s been building up to this as four years ago she started collaborating with know anti-Semitic personages. This is well beyond “impurity” and into “shit storm”

Did you miss the transgender fascists upthread?

Boiledbeetle · 21/03/2023 00:05

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 21/03/2023 00:04

So extreme! So hateful!

Compare and contrast with

What if you're all wrong about KJK? Even her own security have serious concerns
NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 21/03/2023 00:06

Let' break this down, Onnabug.

You claim she is counter-productive and hardening the pro-trans views of the majority of the public. TRAs outnumber women at her events, you say.

Right. So who is she encouraging to commit hate crimes? It's got to be middle-aged mumsnetters.

Boiledbeetle · 21/03/2023 00:06
Awkward Time For Bed GIF

You know most of us are currently this gif right now.

Hepwo · 21/03/2023 00:07

The so called "Nazis" who were half dozen foolish young men were protesting peados.

It's a thing when posters hate that isn't it?

Apollo441 · 21/03/2023 00:07

@Onnabugeisha You have annoyed me so much I have just donated to KJK for the first time. I take it back, you're brand of activism can achieve something indirectly.

Boiledbeetle · 21/03/2023 00:08

Apollo441 · 21/03/2023 00:07

@Onnabugeisha You have annoyed me so much I have just donated to KJK for the first time. I take it back, you're brand of activism can achieve something indirectly.

I think every time one of These threads appear KJK must see a corresponding bump in her millions in her offshore account!

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 21/03/2023 00:08

Hepwo · 21/03/2023 00:07

The so called "Nazis" who were half dozen foolish young men were protesting peados.

It's a thing when posters hate that isn't it?

1st rule of misogyny, Hep!

Kellie Jay is always responsible for what men do!

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 00:08

Onnabugeisha · 21/03/2023 00:03

I think the appearance of neo-NAZIs on her side in support of her is a pretty good indicator that KJK is doing things very wrong indeed. And it’s been building up to this as four years ago she started collaborating with know anti-Semitic personages. This is well beyond “impurity” and into “shit storm”

what side?

Her side of the road? the neo Nazis walked over the other side of the road too! And saluted to the protestors there.

Now who again is the anti-Semitic people she is supposedly collaborating with? Because you failed to produce any evidence that Steigan was a Holocaust denier. The only thing you posted was that she allowed Johansen to take a selfie with her and she had no idea who he was.

So, who is it this time that you mean?

DialSquare · 21/03/2023 00:12

Every dollar that you donate is a real poke in the eye for her opponents.

It sure is.

Hepwo · 21/03/2023 00:12

This stupidity gets recycled over and over on here and yet it doesn't get any greater traction in the real world.

Other than people as ducking stupid as Owen Jones no one actually believes that we are all Nazi supporters.

Its a an indicator of how irrational the objectors are that they are posting the most outlandish accusations of everything being Nazi adjacent.

This lunacy simply doesn't exist beyond a few fanatics.

Onnabugeisha · 21/03/2023 00:12

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 00:08

what side?

Her side of the road? the neo Nazis walked over the other side of the road too! And saluted to the protestors there.

Now who again is the anti-Semitic people she is supposedly collaborating with? Because you failed to produce any evidence that Steigan was a Holocaust denier. The only thing you posted was that she allowed Johansen to take a selfie with her and she had no idea who he was.

So, who is it this time that you mean?

You know. You just conveniently “forget” and go into sea lion mode on every thread.

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 00:14

Onnabugeisha · 21/03/2023 00:12

You know. You just conveniently “forget” and go into sea lion mode on every thread.

No. I don’t know. Tell us who are you talking about specifically?

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 21/03/2023 00:15

Onnabugeisha · 21/03/2023 00:12

You know. You just conveniently “forget” and go into sea lion mode on every thread.

Why don’t you just make a little note you can copy and paste every time?

Because Helle keeps asking but I don’t see anyone actually answering?

Turnipworkharder · 21/03/2023 00:15
Still Waiting Reaction GIF by MOODMAN

still waiting for the evidence OP

Onnabugeisha · 21/03/2023 00:15

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 00:14

No. I don’t know. Tell us who are you talking about specifically?

Seal Hiccuping GIF

Oh yes you do.

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 00:17

Onnabugeisha · 21/03/2023 00:03

I think the appearance of neo-NAZIs on her side in support of her is a pretty good indicator that KJK is doing things very wrong indeed. And it’s been building up to this as four years ago she started collaborating with know anti-Semitic personages. This is well beyond “impurity” and into “shit storm”

what side?

Her side of the road? the neo Nazis walked over the other side of the road too! And saluted to the protestors there too!

Pixiedust1234 · 21/03/2023 00:17

Onnabugeisha · 21/03/2023 00:15

Oh yes you do.

Well I don't @Onnabugeisha please explain in small words so my little brain can understand you. I really wanna do better.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 21/03/2023 00:17

Hepwo · 21/03/2023 00:12

This stupidity gets recycled over and over on here and yet it doesn't get any greater traction in the real world.

Other than people as ducking stupid as Owen Jones no one actually believes that we are all Nazi supporters.

Its a an indicator of how irrational the objectors are that they are posting the most outlandish accusations of everything being Nazi adjacent.

This lunacy simply doesn't exist beyond a few fanatics.

Shall we discuss Owen Jones and his history of being very invested in arguing over whether jewish people were a race?

I wouldn't ask OJ for valuable input on what constituted a nazi. You should see him block at the speed of light when anyone asks about the cover image used on the Spanish translation of one of his books. It's an anti-semitic cartoon. Now, admittedly, he didn't have control over what cover image his foreign publishers used. He does have control over how he treats Jewish people asking about it. He chooses gaslighting and victimhood.

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