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What if you're all wrong about KJK? Even her own security have serious concerns

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andarounditgoesagain · 20/03/2023 09:54

Her own security are saying she's courting trouble for views, knowingly putting them in danger, that she has no human connection with people but her fans don't notice as they hero-worship her and see what they want to see, and that the end game is she's after becoming a talking head in the US, and that SFW women are just pawns she's using to get there.

twitter.com/Fair_Maiden1/status/1637529465126285312

She seems more and more like a Katie Hopkins type who's leeching off our movement.

I used to love her, before I get accused of jealousy. I still love the approach of platforming women who don't usually get a chance to be heard.

But actual nazis are now turning up at women's rights events - precisely because KJK refused to denounce them and has been courting the far right for ages. It's not a coincidence.

What does she have to do before women realise she's using us?
At what point do women accept KJK is toxic and damaging our movement?

If those closest to her have serious concerns - shouldn't you?

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Baldieheid · 20/03/2023 22:51

Boiledbeetle · 20/03/2023 22:46

Let's call it a straight £2K. Can't be arsed with a long con, I'll just give you all my money now.

Ta muchly.

Funds can be deposited in my special offshore £700 a night hotel savings account.
Sort code KJ-KM-23
Account - getrichkwik

Delivery - approx 5 years.

Those darn unicorns are only seedlings.

lifeturnsonadime · 20/03/2023 22:52

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 20/03/2023 22:45

So this is all a grifty-grift psy op to make Kellie Jay even MORE popular?

that would be very well played indeed.

What's the saying?

Any publicity is good publicity.....

BlessedKali · 20/03/2023 22:52

Fraud, im the real KJK

Helleofabore · 20/03/2023 22:53

By the way, having her travel to Australia (and Australia is not cheap at all these days, I can personally assure you of that) has been inspiring for many women I am sure. Some of them who have attended might pop on this thread and tell you personally.

Australian women needed another rallying call. They will need to probably have several more to get and sustain the momentum we have here. But this was the first step in some areas, and a bolstering up of what seems to have been some previous events in other states.

So, OP, you don’t think her traveling is worthwhile?

”How much is it costing all of her supporters to send her on a world tour?”

”Is it money well spent? What are the aims?”

”Considering she's been know to stay in hotels in the UK that cost £700 a night, how much do you think this world trip is costing you?”

You think that Australian and New Zealand and Irish women should not have Kellie Jay come and facilitate their events based on the concept she has now made work?

Well that is pretty fucked to be frank. Well done OP. How wonderfully supportive you are of other women!!! You must be proud.

Women donated to have these events happen. They knew the score.

You have taken ONE night that you have no idea whether she personally paid for it, or it was gifted, or it was a good deal, or she used loyalty points or she paid cash. ONE night and cast your prejudiced aspersions on her spend for an entire world trip!

How petty are the feminists who fed you that line of thought?

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 20/03/2023 22:53

BlessedKali · 20/03/2023 22:52

Fraud, im the real KJK

Have you got any T shirts? Only it looks like we’ll be waiting a while on the fringey-pink-unicorn jackets and we really need a (forced)team uniform…

DemiColon · 20/03/2023 22:54

FOJN · 20/03/2023 21:56

The political left think they own feminism and are really pissed off that when they rejected KJK she didn't quietly accepting her shunning but decided to do her own thing which has turned out to be more effective than their own efforts.

I've come to think that one of the very interesting effects of gender ideology and id pol is that regular women, the bulk of women, are taking back feminism for themselves. And wanting to talk not just about GI, but what being a woman means to them more generally.

And they often don't agree with the lefty elite feminists who have seen themselves as owning feminism and speaking for all women, or knowing better than those women what is good for them. They are saucily bringing up topics and pointing things out that those women would rather were kept quiet, and worse, things that they find embarrassing.

They'd rather scupper the ship than have to share it with other, unenlightened women, who are probably racists after all.

Boiledbeetle · 20/03/2023 22:54

Baldieheid · 20/03/2023 22:51

Ta muchly.

Funds can be deposited in my special offshore £700 a night hotel savings account.
Sort code KJ-KM-23
Account - getrichkwik

Delivery - approx 5 years.

Those darn unicorns are only seedlings.

Look why don't i just post you my credit and debit cards then you can upgrade to the penthouse suite and bathe in unicorn tears.

I think that makes the most sense.

Oh and I'll sign over the house and car whilst I'm at it.

Hepwo · 20/03/2023 22:54

BlessedKali · 20/03/2023 21:49

SHAME THE RADICAL NOTION NEVER INTERVIEWED HER AYE? MAYBE IT WOULD HAVE KEPT UP SOME OF ITS SUBSCRIPTIONS?

This gave me a laugh 🤣

Baldieheid · 20/03/2023 22:54
Make It Rain Disney GIF

Money!

Now I can buy all the cake I want!

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 20/03/2023 22:55

Minirrriot · 20/03/2023 22:45

Here's the thing..

I actually personally do think she dogwhistles to the right, dunno about far right tho... For me it's about the inferences made, dogwhistles to trad wife type of stuff, insinuations that feminists are all crazy/ pathetic/ fat/ jealous etc..., dismissive behaviour to women of colour regarding who PP/ KJK associates with that I have seen in conversations on the internet, this goes back years - I used to be a member of a forum on Facebook she was also a member of before getting banned. I think it is a very different thing to dismiss a white woman raising these concerns than it is to dismiss a WOC with lived experience doing so.

I also don't like the way some things are said by her, it comes across as bullying at times or the way she interacts with certain odious figures, such as Tasha Rose from illusions destroyed - she seems to treat them with a respective that goes beyond polite civility. I don't object to her talking to these people are though, I believe in free speech

I don't agree with guilt by association, please see Milo and Bindel

There is a huge misogyny problem in Islamic culture, I strongly object to forced hijab. There is also a huge misogyny problem in Mormonism, I strongly object to the modesty layers that are mandatory for women and girls and the shaming/ blaming of women and girls for rape and sexual assault. There are also many other religions with a huge misogyny problem, including Evangelical Christianity, Hinduism and Orthodox Judaism.

Posie Parker/ KJK has been very effective at drawing attention to this extremely important issue. She has guts and courage, that is undeniable. She has also not been allowed to speak on left wing platforms.

I do think she comes off as a bit narcissistic yes, but as many others have said, she is also actually doing something. I'm not, I've had a few articles published in some left wing places under a pseudonym and that has been it. I do not have her courage, nor her motivation and energy.

Yeah, I agree, I think she is self-promoting but most humans are not entirely un-selfmotivated, though some are more or less so than others. However, she also promotes women's voices regarding this issue and those are voices that are being silenced.

I am worried that with the dogwhistles she could encourage people to go far right yes.

I deplore racists, yes, some of the people she has interviewed, been interviewed by are racist.

I think some of her supporters are a bit cringe and some come across as if the issue of the troonacy trumps the concerns of women of colour about racism.

The thing is, my personal opinions are exactly that - they are based on my own subjective interpretation.

Despite the fact I actually am quite suspicious of KJK and personally (that word again) find her to be quite objectionable, I have to concede she has been five star fucking terrific when it comes to this issue. She has achieved more than anyone else, in a way I wish it wasn't so but someone has to do it. KJK actually gets stuff done, stuff that gets people talking about THE issue.

For that work and that work alone I have to say, I greatly admire her and am grateful.

Nuance does exist you know.

cor actual nuance

largely sums up my position

BlessedKali · 20/03/2023 22:55

Its tough being me mind.

Sometimes i cant be fucked to get up and deal with crowds of aggressive men. It would be much easier to just sit at home on twitter.

Just retweet someone now and again and feel like im making a difference.

But i don't, i motivate myself, i organise, i push through, i stay alert and I LET WOMEN SPEAK

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 20/03/2023 22:56

BlessedKali · 20/03/2023 22:55

Its tough being me mind.

Sometimes i cant be fucked to get up and deal with crowds of aggressive men. It would be much easier to just sit at home on twitter.

Just retweet someone now and again and feel like im making a difference.

But i don't, i motivate myself, i organise, i push through, i stay alert and I LET WOMEN SPEAK

Have you thought about making a really boring, yet eye wateringly expensive fanzine?

deathbygif · 20/03/2023 22:57

FKATondelayo · 20/03/2023 22:38

I don't understand why a woman with half the media on her back and a baying mob calling for her to be extradicted doesn't just stay in a hostel. Truly is a mystery.

$700 or whatever it was to stay in a good hotel in a major city, though it's more than I can afford, doesn't strike me as extravagant. She has serious security concerns, and deserves to stay in a place where she'd likely be safer.

deathbygif · 20/03/2023 22:57

(I know the post I was quoting was /s)

Boiledbeetle · 20/03/2023 22:58

Baldieheid · 20/03/2023 22:54

Money!

Now I can buy all the cake I want!

Soooooooo just got the credit card Bill. Good move paying for the level 10 unicorn masseuse as well. A more relaxed unicorn will help with your stress levels.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 20/03/2023 22:59
Unicorn GIF by MOODMAN

I'm fairly certain Minirrriot is a unicorn. Long nuanced post about KJK? <applause>

BlessedKali · 20/03/2023 23:00

My position is - from the videos and everything Ive seen of her, I like her, I trust her, I reckon I could have a right laugh with her over a glass of wine, she reminds me of a mate.

She's also a role model - mum of 4, glam as fuck, out therr kicking ass and making waves.

And what I REALLY love, is that in this time ir polarization, when chasms in society are getting bigger... She talks to all sides, she speaks to anyone, for anyone. She brings people together over one topic.

So u may hate her for speaking to the 'right' but i admire her for it.

Boiledbeetle · 20/03/2023 23:01
unicorn GIF by Ice Breakers

I wish unicorns existed

FKATondelayo · 20/03/2023 23:01

deathbygif · 20/03/2023 22:57

$700 or whatever it was to stay in a good hotel in a major city, though it's more than I can afford, doesn't strike me as extravagant. She has serious security concerns, and deserves to stay in a place where she'd likely be safer.

I know right? Pretty sure I paid £200 a night for a bog standard aparthotel in Sydney 15 years ago. And that was back when the pound was strong against the AUS dollar and it was a relatively cheap international city.

Baldieheid · 20/03/2023 23:05

Boiledbeetle · 20/03/2023 22:58

Soooooooo just got the credit card Bill. Good move paying for the level 10 unicorn masseuse as well. A more relaxed unicorn will help with your stress levels.

I dudnae think ye'd mind......ahm a perfessional, ye ken.

These'll be the finest pink unicorn jaikets the world has ever seen.

Mind you, ahm gonna huv to be canny. Unicorns are protected animals up here, whit wi' them being oor national creature an a'. Ah can only tak a wee bitty mane an' tail frae each wan, that way naebody'll notice. Fowks would definitely notice bald unicorns. So we'll no dae that.

Righthandcider · 20/03/2023 23:06

Boiledbeetle · 20/03/2023 23:01

I wish unicorns existed

They do. There's one eating cheese in my kitchen right now.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 20/03/2023 23:07

Boiledbeetle · 20/03/2023 23:01

I wish unicorns existed

They do, it's just they look very different in real life, without Instagram filters. Which, being magical unicorns, they invented 2000 years before humans did.

The Real Unicorns of the World

BlessedKali · 20/03/2023 23:07

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 20/03/2023 22:56

Have you thought about making a really boring, yet eye wateringly expensive fanzine?

Yes i did consider, then I realised this would have absolutely no real world affect for women and girls whatsoever( apart from make some of them poorer) so i decided to do proper roll-your-sleeves-up feminism.

Baldieheid · 20/03/2023 23:09
pink dancing GIF

Aw, looky look. Isn't that just the fluffiest pink unicorn you ever clapped eyes on? Mind, it's a cross. Unicorn and long haired guinea pig. Awffy pretty but the squeaking driving me up the wall.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 20/03/2023 23:09

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 20/03/2023 23:07

They do, it's just they look very different in real life, without Instagram filters. Which, being magical unicorns, they invented 2000 years before humans did.

The Real Unicorns of the World

Sudden memory of a school trip to Whipsnade Safari Park featuring a rhino with a giant erection.

put a trigger warning on that link goddamnit!

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