What if you're all wrong about KJK? Even her own security have serious concerns

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Her own security are saying she's courting trouble for views, knowingly putting them in danger, that she has no human connection with people but her fans don't notice as they hero-worship her and see what they want to see, and that the end game is she's after becoming a talking head in the US, and that SFW women are just pawns she's using to get there.

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She seems more and more like a Katie Hopkins type who's leeching off our movement.

I used to love her, before I get accused of jealousy. I still love the approach of platforming women who don't usually get a chance to be heard.

But actual nazis are now turning up at women's rights events - precisely because KJK refused to denounce them and has been courting the far right for ages. It's not a coincidence.

What does she have to do before women realise she's using us?
At what point do women accept KJK is toxic and damaging our movement?

If those closest to her have serious concerns - shouldn't you?

Im joking anyway im not KJK. This is me
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“”How much is it costing all of her supporters to send her on a world tour?”

Women donated to have these events happen. They knew the score.

Er, no they didn’t know when they donated. KJK raised funds for legal fees for being questioned by the police in a 1hr interview. Fees that should have been less than £1k. But instead of refunding the difference, she unilaterally
announced that the extra £10k or so she collected, she was going to use to fund this trip to Australia and New Zealand.

I remember the thread well when I pointed out this bait and switch con and you and others responded with a “so what” and continue to make snide comments on later threads (including this one) about me questioning how women spend their money which isn’t at all what I was questioning. I was questioning the ethics of KJK to raise money for legal fees and then announce, not ask, but announce that over 90% of donations are actually going to be spent on a trip to Australia & New Zealand.

I don’t think that’s the kind of morality anyone should be inspiring. And now she’s inspiring neo-Nazis to stand beside her. Which as OP pointed out is not a coincidence.

And people thought KJK's tshirts were offensive!

I've beaten her into a cocked hat with my tshirt!

KJK owes you nothing.
It doesn't matter one bit whether she's a narcissist or not I'm not sure why you would think that's relevant.
She is doing bold things and making waves and sacrificing off her own back, not as any sort of employee or elected representative whom one could have 'concerns' about.
If she has ulterior motives it doesn't even matter. Everyone has personal motivations that is part of being human. Is she not a pure enough sacrifice for you?
Your concerns are irrelevant. She is doing what she's doing and it's working.
She's 'in the arena' and you are on the sidelines bitching.
Go and do it better if you think you can.
If not why not get in touch with her and explain your superior strategy.

Oh wondrous joy that they exist..

I've ordered a pretty pink one called lulu.

Some time later

unicorn has arrived....

I got this. He's called Kevin.

It's a good thing the haters didnt actually donate any of their own money, can you imagine how annoyed they would be then!

Thankfully I do donate and I am more than happy for her to spend her money how she pleases. ESPECIALLY if she takes her events to Australia and sparks the public debate there...checks notes... Which she has

If you don't think it's a fucking cheek to spend their money on fancy hotels, I can't help you. It's fucking corrupt IMO.

People can spend their income on whatever they choose. They earned it. I think your socialism is clouding your judgement.

Nobody wants you to help them as you can't really figure out what's going on and actually sound like you are being manipulated.

You are reposting a load of rubbish that's all been debunked many times but in your naivety you think you are giving people new information.

You can get penis hats?

Readers: the Facebook group to which you have been referred to is one who has been well known for publishing a bullying sin page on a feminist website. Where all these misrepresentation, fucked up bad interpretations and asymmetrical treatment compared to ‘approved’ feminists have come from.

We encourage you to go and see that page in action. Please, please do.

Feel free to come back and ask posters on FWR how well the evidence stands under scrutiny. Like the misrepresentation of Pal Steigen’s conference that I posted about that seems to have been completely ignored even though it drove a fucking truck through the accusation made by this poster.

So yes, go and see the pettiness, the infighting there to if someone doesn’t toe the group’s narrative. You think here is bad, there they will remove you from the group if you don’t follow the line we have been told.

“It's painful watching the posters contort themselves so as to not to face the possibility that KJK may not be who they want her to be.”

This poster has their own prejudice against Kellie Jay Keen as was very clear from the very first post. No one who was going to discuss this issue with any rationality would start the thread so patronisingly, and hostilely (likening KJK to Hopkins was an indication this destination via the AGCL was inevitable).

This poster has announced they are flouncing.

Because instead of evidence, they bought crap. And not even new, just the regurgitation of tropish accusations.

”I'm worried that it's not going to end well,”

I am calling bullshit on this too. I don’t believe this OP even cares. All they wanted was another opportunity to shame a woman banned from this platform and no even in the same time one to answer for herself.

“and it's a real shame we can't discuss that here in good faith.”

And again. This poster never posted in good faith. Good faith would have meant a completely different title, and completely different opening post and then not claiming this victimhood when women rightly felt patronised, censured and lied to by this poster. And it was a lie. They never had the intention to engage proactively.

I didn't know that.

Bait and switch is exactly what it is.

@Onnabugeisha

Good evening. Still not bothered what she spends her money on.

AlisonDonut · Today 12:55

How does one 'court the far right' anyway?

Sitting under their balcony with a lute, reciting sonnets is the traditional way, I believe.

I almost posted that gif at Tinsel’s suggestion of an interpretative dance about women not having penises.

You may be surprised to learn that it’s not even the worst result for ‘penis dance’

She is doing bold things and making waves and sacrificing off her own back,

What has she sacrificed? Nothing that I can see.

She is doing what she's doing and it's working.

What has she accomplished other than to whip up hatred and harden opposition to women’s rights?

I can't believe a woman well known for organising public speaking events for women spent donations organising public speaking events for women. BURN HER.

WOMEN DO NOT HAVE PENISES ALTHOUGH SOME WOMEN MAY BE DESCRIBED AS PENISES.

HERE IS AN EXAMPLE:

'YOU ARE BEING AN ABSOLUTE COCK FOR TRYING TO TEAR DOWN A SISTER'

Well you wouldn’t know because all her frothy supporters are very apt at twisting the facts to put KJK in the best light possible while accusing anyone who is stating facts in good faith of exactly what they do. Note the use of “debunked” when they really mean “it happened but don’t care”

Again?

I hadn't actually typed in penis dance....typing..... OMG

Sounds like you ought to contact the fraud squad if you feel money is being obtained under false pretences.

If you're not prepared to take it down that, legal, route, why not? It's not like the police won't leap at the chance to take her down.

Of course, if its all legal, then you'd be interfering in someone's legitimate income path, which could be not a good thing to do, I suppose.

It's an option, if you truly feel she's financially dodgy.

So, what have we got?

Some anonymous screenshots, with no names or context, posted with no explanation by the tweeter. Various unproven claims that KJK is the reincarnation of Ilse Koch. She's charismatic and all out for herself, which she demonstrates by handing the mike over to other women, so that they can speak.

Hmm, that's me convinced that she's dangerously evil. Call the firing squad!

I nearly posted something very snide about Bindel crowd funding a complaint letter to the council, but instead I shall go to bed. It’s been an enjoyable thread, which may well be at 1000 posts by morning.

Well
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oh. Are you here to call her a bimbo again?

On a feminist board?

”And now she’s inspiring neo-Nazis to stand beside her.”

And that is another of your claims that have absolutely no substance. I know you wish that it does, but you have nothing but this barrow to push.

”Which as OP pointed out is not a coincidence.”

Which rule of misogyny is this then?

Women are to blame for men’s actions when men cannot control themselves?

You're still worrying aboout other women's finances in an incredibly patronising way.

Everyone saw the figures going up. Later donators weren't donating because they thought their money was still needed for legal fees. They were donating in order to demonstrate visible support to KJK while the police's eye was on her. They expected their money to be reinvested into her campaigning if not needed for legalities.

If they didn't, they'll request refunds or they won't donate again. And then her campaign won't continue.