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What if you're all wrong about KJK? Even her own security have serious concerns

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andarounditgoesagain · 20/03/2023 09:54

Her own security are saying she's courting trouble for views, knowingly putting them in danger, that she has no human connection with people but her fans don't notice as they hero-worship her and see what they want to see, and that the end game is she's after becoming a talking head in the US, and that SFW women are just pawns she's using to get there.

twitter.com/Fair_Maiden1/status/1637529465126285312

She seems more and more like a Katie Hopkins type who's leeching off our movement.

I used to love her, before I get accused of jealousy. I still love the approach of platforming women who don't usually get a chance to be heard.

But actual nazis are now turning up at women's rights events - precisely because KJK refused to denounce them and has been courting the far right for ages. It's not a coincidence.

What does she have to do before women realise she's using us?
At what point do women accept KJK is toxic and damaging our movement?

If those closest to her have serious concerns - shouldn't you?

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FKATondelayo · 20/03/2023 22:38

I don't understand why a woman with half the media on her back and a baying mob calling for her to be extradicted doesn't just stay in a hostel. Truly is a mystery.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 20/03/2023 22:38
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Oh!

Who which Mumsnetter had the AGCL FB group on their Bingo Card? I know one of you mentioned it pages ago -well done!

Jonei · 20/03/2023 22:40

she's spending £700 a night on a hotel room for herself for her recent speakers corner event!

No really? Goodness gracious.

Hope she enjoyed it. ☺️

Boiledbeetle · 20/03/2023 22:40

Baldieheid · 20/03/2023 22:35

Ooooh ooooh yes, that could work.

I forgot I'll also need some pink satin and a hunky male masseuse for...well...um....oh yes relaxing my shoulders after all the work. Yes, yes shoulders, I mean shoulders.

Well...If you charge us exorbitant prices for our matching outfits you'll have that masseuse massusing you quicker than you can say fund raiser

beastlyslumber · 20/03/2023 22:40

Yep, the AGCL strikes again!

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 20/03/2023 22:40
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Lol, this is brilliant. We know ALL about the AGCL group, Little Miss Racist.

FKATondelayo · 20/03/2023 22:41

AGCL?

Boiledbeetle · 20/03/2023 22:42

I'm not going to post any more here. It's painful watching the posters contort themselves so as to not to face the possibility that KJK may not be who they want her to be.

no love, the only one contorting themselves over KJK is you.

Careful you'll put your back out.

FOJN · 20/03/2023 22:42

Actual Gender Critical Left

BlessedKali · 20/03/2023 22:43

So we have two options here...

Kjk is passionate about the safety of children & women, she is motivated to do something about it, she is successful. Ahe also doesn't discriminate - child from a left wing family or child from a right wing family, both need protection from the gender butchers.

Or,

She doesnt really care, it's all a facade to feed her narcisssim and to align feminism with the 'far right' so she can ruin both the feminist movement and the GC movement. She is also racist.

Place your bets ladies.

landOFconfusion · 20/03/2023 22:43

FKATondelayo · 20/03/2023 22:38

I don't understand why a woman with half the media on her back and a baying mob calling for her to be extradicted doesn't just stay in a hostel. Truly is a mystery.

Wasting money on expensive and unnecessary luxury is just the cherry on top of her grift.

I hope she finds even more absurd things to spend money on. Every pound spent on luxuries is just another poke in the eye for her funders.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 20/03/2023 22:43

FKATondelayo · 20/03/2023 22:41

AGCL?

Bunch of bullies starting witch hunts against women they don’t like, basically.

Baldieheid · 20/03/2023 22:43
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I don't need "rescuing" by you, OP, or any of your purer than pure cabal.
I find many people problematic at times, including KJK, but that's none of your goddamned business.

You think there's financial irregularities going on? Contact the fucking fraud squad.

pumyin · 20/03/2023 22:43

@andarounditgoesagain

K-JNK has been raising awareness across the country on tv, radio, at rallies, meetings, the House of Lords. What have you done?
She has a bodyguard because in speaking out she has made enemies. TAs have made death threats to both herself & her family. She’s been cautioned & interviewed by the police on numerous occasions. Her resolve has not diminished - to let women speak, to protect sex-based rights for women and their spaces.
I don’t think she has ever said that her methods are unique or superior, they are, arguably, rather effective. Everyone needs to understand what is at stake, not just left-wing/right-wing. All women stand to lose so much. They need to know and shout as loud as KJ does & then vote.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 20/03/2023 22:44

ok, i've been at the drambuie, and i've had a blinding insight

what if (stay with me here), KJK is as evil and fiendish as @andarounditgoesagain says, because andarounditgoesagain IS KJK

and this is all a fiendish plot to keep us talking about her and keep the donations coming in....

...anyone?

...I think it might be my bedtime

Baldieheid · 20/03/2023 22:44

Boiledbeetle · 20/03/2023 22:40

Well...If you charge us exorbitant prices for our matching outfits you'll have that masseuse massusing you quicker than you can say fund raiser

£699.99 a jacket.

Can't say fairer than that, squire.

Hepwo · 20/03/2023 22:44

andarounditgoesagain · 20/03/2023 21:14

OK, I've finished work, and the DC have gone up to their rooms. (I'm not gonna kid myself they're asleep, but as long as they're pretending to be, that's a compromise I can live with.)

I'll share the info I can find, that makes me think KJK is toxic. I know loads of you will say "oh, but she talks to everyone" or "she didn't know they were a nazi/white supremacist / whatever" or "purity spirals don't interest me".

But here's the thing. No other women's groups in the UK are facing these issues? Why aren't they "accidentally" showing up on racist channels, if it's such an easy mistake to take?

And, she doesn't talk to everyone. Can you find me a string of left wing commentators she's talking to? No. She's making no effort to talk to everyone, she's targeting the American religious right, trump supporters and the far right.

Why does that matter? If her aim is to make change, then she needs to target those with power and those who's minds we need to change. The far right and trump supporters don't need their minds changed. There's no political reason to target them.

Plus, the far right, are fucking racists. Do I have to explain why it's a bad idea to associate your feminist campaign with racists? I really hope not.

But I don't think KJK's underlying aim is to make change. I know others like her, in different fields, and she absolutely fits the mould of narc / self publicist. She's driven by a desire for publicity, adoration and £££. It's why the steward's comments chimed with me. I've long been worried that someone is going to get seriously hurt at a SFW event. And it's a fucking copout to say if a man does it, it'll be his fault alone. He will be responsible for his actions, for sure, but in addition, if you are running events, you have a responsibility to those who come along to try to make it as safe as possible for them. But I think not only is KJK not doing this, s\I think he's actively stirring up trouble because it gets her clicks - which her stewards and supporters have to deal with. She's using them, and putting them at risk, not for a noble cause, even, but for her own self-promotion.

Her own stewards were fundraising for body cams - while she's spending £700 a night on a hotel room for herself for her recent speakers corner event! Why isn't she buying them body cams out of her considerable SFW money? That doesn't add up to a woman who respects those who keep her safe, does it.

Also, where are her accounts? Shouldn't the women who donate, or pay extortionate membership fees have some idea where it goes? Why does KJK keep starting new companies, then closing them down before she has to show public accounts? Then starting a new, pretty much identical company? That stinks! Although I'm sure one of you will be along to justify it in a minute.

Anyway, to the evidence...

This was all posted here a few weeks or months ago.

They must have a rota in the Head Girl Staff Room for whose turn it is to head over here and roll it all out!

You certainly picked the right username @andarounditgoesagain

It's like endless repeats of episodes of Neighbours. (I never actually watched it).

SmartHome · 20/03/2023 22:45

LOL

Minirrriot · 20/03/2023 22:45

Here's the thing..

I actually personally do think she dogwhistles to the right, dunno about far right tho... For me it's about the inferences made, dogwhistles to trad wife type of stuff, insinuations that feminists are all crazy/ pathetic/ fat/ jealous etc..., dismissive behaviour to women of colour regarding who PP/ KJK associates with that I have seen in conversations on the internet, this goes back years - I used to be a member of a forum on Facebook she was also a member of before getting banned. I think it is a very different thing to dismiss a white woman raising these concerns than it is to dismiss a WOC with lived experience doing so.

I also don't like the way some things are said by her, it comes across as bullying at times or the way she interacts with certain odious figures, such as Tasha Rose from illusions destroyed - she seems to treat them with a respective that goes beyond polite civility. I don't object to her talking to these people are though, I believe in free speech

I don't agree with guilt by association, please see Milo and Bindel

There is a huge misogyny problem in Islamic culture, I strongly object to forced hijab. There is also a huge misogyny problem in Mormonism, I strongly object to the modesty layers that are mandatory for women and girls and the shaming/ blaming of women and girls for rape and sexual assault. There are also many other religions with a huge misogyny problem, including Evangelical Christianity, Hinduism and Orthodox Judaism.

Posie Parker/ KJK has been very effective at drawing attention to this extremely important issue. She has guts and courage, that is undeniable. She has also not been allowed to speak on left wing platforms.

I do think she comes off as a bit narcissistic yes, but as many others have said, she is also actually doing something. I'm not, I've had a few articles published in some left wing places under a pseudonym and that has been it. I do not have her courage, nor her motivation and energy.

Yeah, I agree, I think she is self-promoting but most humans are not entirely un-selfmotivated, though some are more or less so than others. However, she also promotes women's voices regarding this issue and those are voices that are being silenced.

I am worried that with the dogwhistles she could encourage people to go far right yes.

I deplore racists, yes, some of the people she has interviewed, been interviewed by are racist.

I think some of her supporters are a bit cringe and some come across as if the issue of the troonacy trumps the concerns of women of colour about racism.

The thing is, my personal opinions are exactly that - they are based on my own subjective interpretation.

Despite the fact I actually am quite suspicious of KJK and personally (that word again) find her to be quite objectionable, I have to concede she has been five star fucking terrific when it comes to this issue. She has achieved more than anyone else, in a way I wish it wasn't so but someone has to do it. KJK actually gets stuff done, stuff that gets people talking about THE issue.

For that work and that work alone I have to say, I greatly admire her and am grateful.

Nuance does exist you know.

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 20/03/2023 22:45

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 20/03/2023 22:44

ok, i've been at the drambuie, and i've had a blinding insight

what if (stay with me here), KJK is as evil and fiendish as @andarounditgoesagain says, because andarounditgoesagain IS KJK

and this is all a fiendish plot to keep us talking about her and keep the donations coming in....

...anyone?

...I think it might be my bedtime

So this is all a grifty-grift psy op to make Kellie Jay even MORE popular?

that would be very well played indeed.

NeighbourhoodWatchPotholeDivision · 20/03/2023 22:46

CryptoFascistMadameCholet · 20/03/2023 22:43

Bunch of bullies starting witch hunts against women they don’t like, basically.

Some screenshots of AGCL that were going around twitter not long back. AGCL is always good for a laugh.

What if you're all wrong about KJK? Even her own security have serious concerns
What if you're all wrong about KJK? Even her own security have serious concerns
Boiledbeetle · 20/03/2023 22:46

Baldieheid · 20/03/2023 22:44

£699.99 a jacket.

Can't say fairer than that, squire.

Let's call it a straight £2K. Can't be arsed with a long con, I'll just give you all my money now.

BlessedKali · 20/03/2023 22:48

What the fuck is a dog whistle and where can i get one?

Boiledbeetle · 20/03/2023 22:49
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Dogs have an issue with them

BlessedKali · 20/03/2023 22:50

MICHIGAN DOGS ARE DOGS.

MICHIGAN DOGS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS

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