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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans Widows are the only mothers of our children.

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TinselAngel · 27/02/2023 17:06

I don't want this claim by @bathhy to get lost in a thread that will no doubt go along the usual lines.

"As a trans woman mother who uses Mumsnet, I would never recommend coming here."

Trans women can never be the mother of any child. We women, the trans widows who are usually your exes, who give birth to those children are their mother and always will be.

If you adopt a child, you can be the child's parent, but as a male you are not the child's mother.

Trans widows say no to having our status and legal responsibility as mother taken from us.

Women here must not allow forced teaming from men who wish to appropriate our status as the mothers of our children.

Every woman here should consider how they would feel if the father of their child after having taken so much from them already, then demanded to be called "Mum."

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dimorphism · 26/04/2023 10:30

TinselAngel · 23/04/2023 23:06

Poor child. I hope someone manages to step in to ensure the safety and wellbeing of the child.

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 07/05/2023 09:29

I'm probably massively projecting, but...looking at the vulnerability in that new mum's face. my husband taking my baby off me when he was hungry so he could suck my husband's nipples would have destroyed me when I was in that straight after childbirth state. selfish fucker.

AbsolutePixels · 07/05/2023 10:03

This stuff makes me so angry. Aside from the obvious emotional/sexual abuse of woman and child, men who do this sort of thing are derailing the mother's milk supply and depriving the baby of much needed breastmilk! The baby needs to be stimulating the mother's breasts throughout the early hours/days or breastfeeding will likely never be established. Depriving a baby of food and a mother of the ability to feed her baby is just evil.

Datun · 07/05/2023 10:20

He should be arrested. Using a baby to stimulate a man's nipples is child sex abuse.

Dear god this cant end soon enough.

HCPs should be telling men that pretending to breast feed a new born is considered abuse and will not be tolerated. Full stop.

TheShellBeach · 07/05/2023 10:36

Jesus.
I've seen it all now.
How is the mother tolerating watching her baby sucking her husband's nipples?
That's beyond abusive and grim.
My ex was sexually turned on by this.
I think lots of men are
Ugh.

TinselAngel · 07/05/2023 17:36

How is the mother tolerating watching her baby sucking her husband's nipples?

Likely coercive control and you're victim blaming.

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Grammarnut · 07/05/2023 17:39

Entitled creep in every picture of him. Ugh.

TheShellBeach · 07/05/2023 19:21

TinselAngel · 07/05/2023 17:36

How is the mother tolerating watching her baby sucking her husband's nipples?

Likely coercive control and you're victim blaming.

I'm victim blaming?
I'm very sorry. I actually meant how is the mother coping with it.
I used the wrong word. I wondered what she'd be thinking, watching him doing that to her new baby.
I absolutely didn't mean that she was just passively watching.
I find it horrifying that a man would do this, and expect his wife not to object.

PurpleBugz · 07/05/2023 19:42

I wasn't even allowed decent pain killers after my c section because I wanted to breastfeed. How are we allowing men full of drugs to make them lactate to feed children. Have there been any scientific studies on the transference in the milk? Are these babies being harmed by this? It's not ethical to conduct such studies so it just can't be allowed in my opinion

HootyMcBooby76 · 07/05/2023 21:28

PurpleBugz · 07/05/2023 19:42

I wasn't even allowed decent pain killers after my c section because I wanted to breastfeed. How are we allowing men full of drugs to make them lactate to feed children. Have there been any scientific studies on the transference in the milk? Are these babies being harmed by this? It's not ethical to conduct such studies so it just can't be allowed in my opinion

If you fall under the sacred category, you can apparently demand anything you want, and it is transphobic to question the validity or ethics of anything.
It's a magic pass to do anything and face no consequences.

"HRT" for men? Fine. Screw the long term studies.
Puberty blocker for kids? Fine.
Experimental surgeries? Brill.
Inducing lactation in man without knowing the effects on the infant? Superb.
Frankenstinian research on uterine transplants in males? Bring it on.

Meanwhile, women can't get hold of HRT, they are advised not to take unnecessary drugs whilst pregnant, infertile women who cannot carry a child are not given the hope of a "transplant" to fix everything or have to spend thousands of pounds in the hope of a successful pregnancy after their NHS help (if any) has ended. Try giving your child any untested drugs and see what trouble you run into. Oh hang on, they're TRANS? Knock yourself out.

TinselAngel · 10/05/2023 07:59

"First time Mom"

twitter.com/salltweets/status/1656068498534309890?s=46&t=PSGltfjrMyZmBtYq2-AVIQ

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 10/05/2023 08:48

So he’s squatting on an app intended to help women find help with motherhood, fertility and the menopause like a kind of porn sick Jaba the Hut. Lovely

TinselAngel · 10/05/2023 10:21

And excluding the actual mother of the child from using that space for support.

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turbonerd · 10/05/2023 10:34

That is just so sad. What are these men thinking? It is certainly not about anyone else than themselves - unsurprisingly perhaps.

The ones who make their infants suckle them make me feel rather ill I must admit. The poor poor baby! That is severe child abuse.

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TinselAngel · 24/05/2023 09:52

I've no desire to watch this but somebody might want to.

twitter.com/nominalnaomi/status/1661157775320449024?s=46&t=PSGltfjrMyZmBtYq2-AVIQ

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turbonerd · 24/05/2023 12:07

How sad.
Why would this man put his own dubious wants over a baby’s needs?

He did receive pushback though, I would hope this set off some alarm bells.

zibzibara · 24/05/2023 12:11

https://twitter.com/nominalnaomi/status/1661057318740541501 this pervert has doubled down and is gloating about it now.

https://twitter.com/nominalnaomi/status/1661057318740541501

TinselAngel · 24/05/2023 13:16

Is there even a baby?

twitter.com/nominalnaomi/status/1661066441578233871?s=46&t=PSGltfjrMyZmBtYq2-AVIQ

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TinselAngel · 24/05/2023 13:23

If there is it's not even his.

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TinselAngel · 24/05/2023 13:24

I'm now imagining a nightmare scenario where a trans widows separates from her ex, and his new male partner wants to breastfeed her children.

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TinselAngel · 25/05/2023 14:19

"Motherhood is beautiful"

twitter.com/annieatlarge/status/1661647038537252864?s=46&t=PSGltfjrMyZmBtYq2-AVIQ

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