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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans Widows are the only mothers of our children.

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TinselAngel · 27/02/2023 17:06

I don't want this claim by @bathhy to get lost in a thread that will no doubt go along the usual lines.

"As a trans woman mother who uses Mumsnet, I would never recommend coming here."

Trans women can never be the mother of any child. We women, the trans widows who are usually your exes, who give birth to those children are their mother and always will be.

If you adopt a child, you can be the child's parent, but as a male you are not the child's mother.

Trans widows say no to having our status and legal responsibility as mother taken from us.

Women here must not allow forced teaming from men who wish to appropriate our status as the mothers of our children.

Every woman here should consider how they would feel if the father of their child after having taken so much from them already, then demanded to be called "Mum."

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Boiledbeetle · 01/03/2023 12:05

@HootyMcboob76 so many things I want to say about that video.

All would get me banned!

TinselAngel · 01/03/2023 12:12

Imagine not even telling the grandparents the sex of the baby.

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picklemewalnuts · 01/03/2023 12:14

Blimey. Self centred much. Poor baby. Poor grandma.

I know several Fathers that have no children. It's a title in some churches. It no more makes them fathers than women called Queenie or Princess are Royal.

Men aren't mothers. Or clownfish.

Datun · 01/03/2023 14:06

HootyMcboob76 · 01/03/2023 11:16

Here it is in all its glory. Although I'm sure this will be deleted after someone complains, wouldn't want people to see what's actually going on in the world right now would we?

Warning - don't click this video if you are of a sensitive nature.
Or believe that men shouldn't be using infants as props in their stunning and brave transition.

Dear god.

dimorphism · 01/03/2023 14:10

If men are really doing this where the hell are social services? The child needs to be protected.

lifeturnsonadime · 01/03/2023 14:27

Oh that poor child being born into such a narcissistic fantasy world where the needs of the child come last.

Awful.

picklemewalnuts · 01/03/2023 14:42

What really makes me cross about that video is the child has a mother and a father, but neither wants to own up to it. The mum could have breastfed, had they not had a mastectomy. The mum having to come to terms with changes to their body, just like every other woman who has given birth. And getting a baby to suck your nipple is not 'latching', and demonstrates a lack of understanding of breastfeeding.

TinselAngel · 01/03/2023 15:11

It's a shame our ploppers have disappeared or they could have told us whether they think that couples behaviour is how we should all act.

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Boiledbeetle · 01/03/2023 15:14

I keep trying to write a post on that video, but I have to keep deleting them!

I'm so 🤐

EndlessTea · 01/03/2023 15:35

I am one of those people with a ‘sensitive nature’. I daren’t watch. I could be scarred for life.

IcakethereforeIam · 01/03/2023 15:53

Me neither @EndlessTea 🍵 non-sarky🍪and for the ones who did watch itGin

TinselAngel · 01/03/2023 17:02

Just came across this on twitter:

twitter.com/uhohwoman/status/1630970425604972544?s=46&t=PSGltfjrMyZmBtYq2-AVIQ

This woman said no to her husband "breastfeeding" but he did it anyway.

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nepeta · 01/03/2023 17:07

La Leche League International supports male breastfeeding. Not just for transwomen, but for any man who wishes to take a cocktail of medications to induce lactation or something like lactation.

A long time ago I remember them making anti-feminist comments so in one sense this is nothing new, but given all the strict rules about diet, drink, etc. women are ordered to obey it is striking how no such rules apply to men.

TinselAngel · 02/03/2023 19:18

twitter.com/datcatder/status/1631337588014325760?s=46&t=PSGltfjrMyZmBtYq2-AVIQ

More from twitter.

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RosaBonheur · 02/03/2023 19:23

Why can't they call themselves "non birthing parent"?

Or do they just want the rest of us to use this language?

TinselAngel · 02/03/2023 19:25

And now Sam Smith wants to be a Mum and he's not even trans (yet).

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IcakethereforeIam · 02/03/2023 19:36

Comments having none of them.

dimorphism · 02/03/2023 22:08

Christ on a bike. They sounds as if they'd be really fucking exhausting to be around. It's not surprising they's finding it a bit bloody difficult to find anyone to date.

And 'we're changing a language here' - did SS just appoint theyself the dictator of the English language? Guess what 99.999% of people still used sex based pronouns and believe pronouns are for the speaker to decide not self appointed dictators. You don't get to decide to unilaterally change language for everyone else. The narcissism!

The comments are gold and I'd love to repeat but they might get me deleted here!

EndlessTea · 02/03/2023 22:27

He wants to be “mummy”. I reckon he could frolic around a kitchen in a pinafore for a bit, get a tea trolly and serve scones to some toys for a bit. Then he’ll be done with that fantasy.

dimorphism · 02/03/2023 22:37

In my lived experience being a 'Mummy' involves a lot of actual shit and wee and vomit (and washing) and not much navel gazing and obsessing about pronouns. Especially given for the first year (at least) you have to care for someone who can't use any kind of pronouns regardless of how sad it makes you if they don't.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/03/2023 08:27

He wants to be “mummy”. I reckon he could frolic around a kitchen in a pinafore for a bit, get a tea trolly and serve scones to some toys for a bit. Then he’ll be done with that fantasy.

There could be a photo shoot.

TinselAngel · 06/03/2023 07:28

This one wants to be wished happy Mother's Day

twitter.com/yatakalam/status/1259797921618440193?s=46&t=PSGltfjrMyZmBtYq2-AVIQ

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beastlyslumber · 06/03/2023 07:52

No words. It's just all wrong.

EndlessTea · 06/03/2023 14:38

The male entitlement. My hatred of men like that knows no bounds.

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