Trans Widows are the only mothers of our children.

[TinselAngel]

I don't want this claim by @bathhy to get lost in a thread that will no doubt go along the usual lines.

"As a trans woman mother who uses Mumsnet, I would never recommend coming here."

Trans women can never be the mother of any child. We women, the trans widows who are usually your exes, who give birth to those children are their mother and always will be.

If you adopt a child, you can be the child's parent, but as a male you are not the child's mother.

Trans widows say no to having our status and legal responsibility as mother taken from us.

Women here must not allow forced teaming from men who wish to appropriate our status as the mothers of our children.

Every woman here should consider how they would feel if the father of their child after having taken so much from them already, then demanded to be called "Mum."

“Creepy”? You sound like a 16 year old

No

Lol. Calm down…

No, what?

I cant decide if I'm bemused or utterly fucking horrified at this continued attempt to tell women what's what, and insist males can be mothers BECAUSE THEY SAY SO. And as for the "gotcha" about verbs & nouns... just ludicrous

A man can be described as ‘mothering’ someone, but they cannot be a mother. You said upthread that the noun mother wasn’t a female only term but the definition shows you otherwise. Not sure what your difficulty is understanding that. Men cannot be mothers. I can say to it you all day.

Narcissism in action

the insults start right on cue

Brings this to mind

Very typical narcissist male behaviour 🧐

Men can't be mothers, ffs are you even bothering to read the thread?

I posted:

“To mother….is not gender specific.

So all you claiming “mother” is unequivocally tied to non-trans women need to take a look at the dictionary”

So, if the verb isn’t woman specific then no big deal if we call a transwoman mother

Mother Earth isn’t a cis woman either

Mother Earth is a metaphor. There's no such thing as cis.

So, if the verb isn’t woman specific then no big deal if we call a transwoman mother

No thanks, it doesn't work for me, so I won't. Hope this helps.

Men cannot be mothers.
The noun is the thing that names. A verb is a ‘doing word’, remember that from school? I can be cycling, it’s doesn’t make me a cycle.

Omg what are the implications for Santa with this revelation?!? Alert toytown!

please change the way you speak, just for me

I don’t want to, no thanks

but what about if I ask like this?

I still don’t want to

how about if I point out this irrelevant thing?

No thanks

but what harm does it do you just to do what I want?

No

well you sound like a 16 year old

No

You’re so selfish

No

Your attitude harms vulnerable people

No

You’re the bad guy here

the dance of the narcissist

No, what?

No. stop it.

This is what's worrying me now,especially with Christmas being only three hundred days away.

I have definitely deadnamed one before when he stalked me, found my FB profile and proceeded to harass me because I refused to acknowledge men as being able to be women.

If a man insists on removing any and all of my boundaries, I will do what I can to upset them. Fair is fair.

Oh the irony

It's far more than a word.
Mother.
This ideology has gotten us to a point where a TM gives birth, hands it over to a TW (who is the biological father), who then attempts to breastfeed live on camera (the whole sorry mess is available for anyone to watch on YouTube), and this is all considered perfectly "normal".
You can take all the hormones you want, have your baby latch onto your male nipple, and make all the cooing noises you want whilst doing so.
You are still not a Mother, you will never be one.
Men cannot conceive a child, grow that infant and birth it.
They can never know what it is to be a Mother.

This so sick. What is wrong with the actual mother that she passed over the new born baby that has just emerged from her own body to hand it to a deluded man that wants to fulfil his own fantasies by latching on a bay. The poor poor baby knows that he isn’t her mother but f the baby eh, as long as the man gets to live his sick dreams that’s all that counts. Disgusting.