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Let Women SPeak - Australia & NZ tour

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ZombieMumEB · 11/02/2023 06:41

I am so excited that this is coming to Australia - I will hopefully be attending.

Anyone else?

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AlisonDonut · 19/03/2023 12:27

Interesting again, who is pushing back against people who push back against paedophilia.

Helleofabore · 19/03/2023 12:29

FOJN · 19/03/2023 12:26

Onnabugeisha

Thanks for the photos we've all already seen. What did you think they provided evidence of? I haven't seen anyone claim the neo Nazis didn't attempt to hijack the event.

Bizarrely the people who want to smear KJK with guilt by association are giving the neo Nazis lots of publicity. Is this an attempt to use the event as a recruitment drive for them? There were only about 15 of them after all. Maybe the small number made the police think they weren't a threat and that's why the police handwaved them through to the parliament steps to make their nazi salutes.

Here's what the neo Nazis said about the LWS event.

Thanks FOJN.

We are getting some better information on this thread now that it is moved past ‘bimbo’ and telling women off for their financial decisions.

Helleofabore · 19/03/2023 12:30

AlisonDonut · 19/03/2023 12:27

Interesting again, who is pushing back against people who push back against paedophilia.

Will it now be said that anyone pushing back on paedophiles are Nazis?

Belencha · 19/03/2023 12:31

FOJN · 19/03/2023 07:44

That thread is worth a read.

So many people tweeting that the Nazi's were a false flag, possibly paid but certainly facilitated by the police who should not have allowed them to march.

It's kind of the AJA to defend women, it must be shocking for them to see this happening on the streets of their own country regardless of whether the Nazis were real or LARPers intent on causing disruption.

AJA are considered a far-right movement in Australia

plus61j.net.au/plus61j-originals/the-growing-support-for-australias-far-right-jewish-movement/

FOJN · 19/03/2023 12:47

AJA are considered a far-right movement in Australia

And KJK is considered a Nazi by some......

Their mission statement makes it clear they are conservatives but I can't see anything obviously far right. If it's a dog whistle then I'll be at a disadvantage by virtue of not being a dog.

jewishassociation.org.au/we-are-aja/

Either way it must be shocking for any Jewish person to see people doing Nazi salutes whilst the police stand by and do nothing.

BordoisAgain · 19/03/2023 13:02

Im so glad that Antifa were already there to deal with the Nazis.

It's literally their raison d'etre and there's no way they'd refrain from getting rid of them, or at least condemning them.

Helleofabore · 19/03/2023 13:19

Belencha · 19/03/2023 12:31

And yet, this is from their about page.

AJA is a membership-based community organisation guided by authentic Torah values, as well as centre-right, conservative Australian values.

And if you look up the author of that article, Oscar Kaspi-Crutchett, seems to be an ALP political activist working with the current government. It does seem that currently anyone not in the ALP or Australian Greens is under the blanket of ‘far right’.

I would be suspicious of anyone labelling anyone ‘far right’ these days.

Datun · 19/03/2023 13:25

AlisonDonut · 19/03/2023 12:16

People who oppose women will use any smear tactics to shut them up.

Including getting the son of a policeman and their mates to dress up as nazis and walk next to them, in order for screenshots.

It really is tedious. Meanwhile the women still try to speak.

Is this really part of the conjecture? That they aren't Nazis but being paid by the police?

i mean, I heard, that one of them was the son of a high up police officer, but I assumed they were a Nazi, not pretending to be a Nazi.

And all this, to stop women speaking.

There isn't a single person looking at this shit show who isn't wondering WHY.

AlisonDonut · 19/03/2023 13:28

Datun · 19/03/2023 13:25

Is this really part of the conjecture? That they aren't Nazis but being paid by the police?

i mean, I heard, that one of them was the son of a high up police officer, but I assumed they were a Nazi, not pretending to be a Nazi.

And all this, to stop women speaking.

There isn't a single person looking at this shit show who isn't wondering WHY.

A trans nazi? Or a real nazi?

For the screenshots or a deep seated hatred of the paedos?

Who knows?

It doesn't really matter as long as mud is flung at KJK.

Datun · 19/03/2023 13:29

AlisonDonut · 19/03/2023 12:27

Interesting again, who is pushing back against people who push back against paedophilia.

Honestly, if you had it up in neon lights, surrounded by fireworks, and launched into space, it couldn't be clearer.

SO many people are invested in the silencing.

FOJN · 19/03/2023 13:45

BordoisAgain · 19/03/2023 13:02

Im so glad that Antifa were already there to deal with the Nazis.

It's literally their raison d'etre and there's no way they'd refrain from getting rid of them, or at least condemning them.

You'd think so but no women speaking are much more of a threat and must be silenced whilst a group of men stroll by doing Nazi salutes are ignored by the antifascists?

You couldn't make it up

Onnabugeisha · 19/03/2023 13:52

AlisonDonut · 19/03/2023 12:16

People who oppose women will use any smear tactics to shut them up.

Including getting the son of a policeman and their mates to dress up as nazis and walk next to them, in order for screenshots.

It really is tedious. Meanwhile the women still try to speak.

The Neo-nazi group, the National Socialist Network, that marched in support of KJK has been around for three years. Long before KJK even thought of going to Australia. The men in the photos are known by the authorities to be members of this group. The man leading the group was Thomas Sewell, a known neo-nazi, convicted criminal and leader of the NSN. See photo of him without his mask on.

www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/government-may-amend-anti-vilification-laws-after-neo-nazis-salute-on-spring-street-20230319-p5ctbm.html

Yet you think some TRAs decided to cos-play as Neo-Nazis as a “smear tactic”?

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BethDuttonsTwin · 19/03/2023 13:57

It is crystal clear that the shit clod that is “Far Right” is the only one they have been able make stick even slightly to KJK, due to her refusal to bow to current culturally and politically dominant party lines around various identity groups. So now, ably assisted by the inflexible purity demands of certain academic feminists, those clods are being flung as hard and swiftly as possible in order to try to discredit and silence an engaging and relatable woman, with a huge platform and voice, who is making a huge impact on the debate. How this isn’t obvious to so many is unfathomable. I can only assume those going along with it are either too lacking in critical thinking ability to see it or have their own sly reasons for pretending it’s true.

Onnabugeisha · 19/03/2023 13:57

Helleofabore · 19/03/2023 12:21

Not sure what you think posting those pics are doing either. You seem to be missing the fact that the neo Nazi groups of Victoria don’t support women and no one seems to know who this group is. Australian media is now reporting one of them is a Victorian policeman’s son.

You really are doing us all sorts of favours today. Thank you.

“No one seems to know who this group is” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

They know exactly who they were (NSN) and who led them (Sewell).
I posted the link to this information with the photos.

Onnabugeisha · 19/03/2023 14:08

@FOJN
Here's what the neo Nazis said about the LWS event.

You are accidentally on purpose mistaken. Thats a tweet by a 3rd party organisation called XYZ not by NSN (the Neo-nazis).

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 19/03/2023 14:15

Hey @Onnabugeisha I have (not shocking to anyone sane) news for you

The Neo-nazi group, the National Socialist Network, that marched, marched in equal hatred of LGB, QAI+, and women.

They are an equal discrimination hate group that your lot have facilitated because women are not allowed to meet, publicly, and legally, without the rabid anti women rainbow collation mob

Own your own.

FOJN · 19/03/2023 14:16

Onnabugeisha

You are accidentally on purpose mistaken. Thats a tweet by a 3rd party organisation called XYZ not by NSN (the Neo-nazis).

Oh gosh I am mistaken, I thought the rules were that if you breathed the same air as a neo Nazi then you are one.

So let me get this straight; neo Nazis turn up invited at a women's event therefore the women are neo Nazis, XYZ tweet in support of neo Nazis but they are in fact not neo Nazis?

Your links were to third party opinions rather than from the horses mouth, is there some magic that makes them more reliable as sources?

I think I understand there is a double standard at play here.

You've been a source of irritation and misinformation here for long enough to know that @i@ing@ing@ing@ing@ing@ing@ing@ing@ing@ing@ing

FOJN · 19/03/2023 14:16

No idea what happened there.

QuinnLovesEris · 19/03/2023 14:20

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 19/03/2023 14:15

Hey @Onnabugeisha I have (not shocking to anyone sane) news for you

The Neo-nazi group, the National Socialist Network, that marched, marched in equal hatred of LGB, QAI+, and women.

They are an equal discrimination hate group that your lot have facilitated because women are not allowed to meet, publicly, and legally, without the rabid anti women rainbow collation mob

Own your own.

Yes. The far-right is only rising in opposition to the far-left that has been allowed to operate with impunity for years.

I had a quick look at the named bloke - his group has got form for attention-grabbing at organised events. I reckon the ONLY reason they were there was to generate content for recruitment. Nothing to do with supporting nor shutting up women. Just bog-standard optics for the recruitment of the blokes who are sick of lefties.

FOJN · 19/03/2023 14:26

Oh look at that Thomas Sewell speaking at the XYZ conference.

twitter.com/ShayWoulahan/status/1637140474296164355

And here they are doing a Nazi salute outside the Adelaide Holocaust Museum. I hope their mere proximity to the museum doesn't mean we will label that institution as being Nazi adjacent, although its 2023 and anything is possible.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11169091/Neo-nazi-Nationalist-Socialist-Networks-fascist-salute-outside-Adelaide-Holocaust-Museum.html

Onnabugeisha · 19/03/2023 14:31

FOJN · 19/03/2023 14:16

Onnabugeisha

You are accidentally on purpose mistaken. Thats a tweet by a 3rd party organisation called XYZ not by NSN (the Neo-nazis).

Oh gosh I am mistaken, I thought the rules were that if you breathed the same air as a neo Nazi then you are one.

So let me get this straight; neo Nazis turn up invited at a women's event therefore the women are neo Nazis, XYZ tweet in support of neo Nazis but they are in fact not neo Nazis?

Your links were to third party opinions rather than from the horses mouth, is there some magic that makes them more reliable as sources?

I think I understand there is a double standard at play here.

You've been a source of irritation and misinformation here for long enough to know that @i@ing@ing@ing@ing@ing@ing@ing@ing@ing@ing@ing

Whose rules are those? Certainly not mine. I have said neo-Nazis stand with KJK and about how she has repeatedly associated with known neo-Nazis and others of similar ilk. Never that she is one.

Yes my links were to 3rd parties…to reporters that are publishing articles on what happened. The difference is, I did not try and pass off what was reported by Chris Hopkins as what “the TRAs” or “the Neo-Nazis” or “KJK” is saying like you just tried to.

You posted a tweet by XYZ and tried to pass it off as what “the neo-Nazis [NSN] are saying”.

So there is no double standard as you can post what XYZ have said, so long as you do not claim it was said by NSN.

Not been any misinformation on my part, funny you’d accuse me of exactly what I caught you redhanded doing.

Onnabugeisha · 19/03/2023 14:35

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 19/03/2023 14:15

Hey @Onnabugeisha I have (not shocking to anyone sane) news for you

The Neo-nazi group, the National Socialist Network, that marched, marched in equal hatred of LGB, QAI+, and women.

They are an equal discrimination hate group that your lot have facilitated because women are not allowed to meet, publicly, and legally, without the rabid anti women rainbow collation mob

Own your own.

‘My lot’ are WPUK and we have facilitated none of this.

I agree NSN will not stop with the “T” in LGB which is why it is abhorrent that KJK has collaborated and associated with these sorts of hate mongering people for years. Her chickens are coming home to roost and sorry but you cannot pin this on feminists like me who have been telling you and warning you about KJK repeatedly.

This is on everyone that continues to support, fund and defend KJK.

Helleofabore · 19/03/2023 14:46

FOJN · 19/03/2023 12:26

Onnabugeisha

Thanks for the photos we've all already seen. What did you think they provided evidence of? I haven't seen anyone claim the neo Nazis didn't attempt to hijack the event.

Bizarrely the people who want to smear KJK with guilt by association are giving the neo Nazis lots of publicity. Is this an attempt to use the event as a recruitment drive for them? There were only about 15 of them after all. Maybe the small number made the police think they weren't a threat and that's why the police handwaved them through to the parliament steps to make their nazi salutes.

Here's what the neo Nazis said about the LWS event.

Worth reposting this. I suspect that this is a more accurate
indication of motivation than ‘aligning’ with anyone.

PriOn1 · 19/03/2023 14:48

Helleofabore · 19/03/2023 12:27

Excellent. Now we are getting somewhere. It is a known group then and the police let this man and the group past?

Why?

Why did the police allow them to be close to the women speaking or even anywhere near trans people?

BoreOfWhabylon’s video link starts before KJK arrives. They discuss the fact that the police allowed the Anti-Women activists onto the steps to mingle with the women at the beginning. They were only moved away when it became obvious they intended violence .

In addition, in KJK’s video, there is discussion about the incident. They were afraid of the men in black, who they took to be Antifa, but they carried on and they say they were unaware that the men were Nazis until they started saluting, which the women’s rights group only saw when they were leaving.

FOJN · 19/03/2023 15:02

You posted a tweet by XYZ and tried to pass it off as what “the neo-Nazis [NSN] are saying”.

Correct and XYZ are neo Nazis, you're the one putting NSN in brackets and trying to change what I said.

So there is no double standard as you can post what XYZ have said, so long as you do not claim it was said by NSN.

Good job I said neo Nazis rather than NSN then.

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