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Let Women SPeak - Australia & NZ tour

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ZombieMumEB · 11/02/2023 06:41

I am so excited that this is coming to Australia - I will hopefully be attending.

Anyone else?

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Helleofabore · 15/03/2023 22:48

Yay! womanxx!!!

Hopefully the police in Adelaide will be as good as they have been in Sydney, Brissy and Perth and you will be able to hear.

Mind you the last one I attended I couldn’t hear but went home and listened. The magic was just knowing you were there and you were supporting women speaking and meeting others.

Enjoy!

BoreOfWhabylon · 15/03/2023 23:31

Excellent womanxx, get your AHF t-shirt on and get out there!

No doubt Mishy will then confidently assert that there was an audience of 1 Grin

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 16/03/2023 04:30

That was epic!!

Women are so brave, and funny; some of the stories were heartbreaking, some hopeful, but the courage of all was inspiring.

There were very loud protesters standing not far behind us (behind a line of police and SFW stewards) who seemed to have real issues with letting women be heard. They used loud hailers and noise makers shouting “we can’t hear you” ummm no shit Sherlock - KJK did point out the problem for them 😂
Mounted police moved them on after about an hour and a half so when it finished no one had to walk through them.

I saw Channel 10, Channel 7, I think The Advertiser, and other reporters that I couldn’t identify filming most of it so we’ll see how biased they are.
From what I’ve seen from Channel 7 and The Advertiser, it’ll be very biased 😡
I guess I’ll also find out soon how works feels about women’s rights!

I pretty sure I peaked the taxi driver on the way home.
He had been sitting on the other side of the road so had seen the last 15 minutes and asked what it was all about.
He just kept asking “but how has that happened” “how has that been allowed” He was incredulous but is going to go check what his kids are being taught in school 💪

Oooo and I got a selfie (cos I wanted to thank KJK in person and couldn’t help myself) - obvs I won’t post that picture, but here’s a couple I can share.

Thanks @Helleofabore and @BoreOfWhabylon for your encouragement 💐

I also owe some thanks to @MishyJDI I was nervous about going because I was on my own and I’ve seen how the BeKind people are, and was worried about afterwards….. but you reminded me why women should step up and speak up.

Today I stepped up, next time I might even speak up…. but being there gave me the spark to have an open conversation with a random taxi driver when I had no idea what reception my TWANW was going to get, and now I’m very happy I did.

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Codlingmoths · 16/03/2023 04:40

I’d love to watch the melb one - will there be a YouTube or something?
a family member brought it up on the weekend. They are in the medical field and think it’s an experimental scandal on young people waiting to blow. Just for an anecdote on a random Aussie I’ve never discussed it with before for mishi

ISpyCobraKai · 16/03/2023 04:40

Great pics, so glad you had a good time.
I felt the same after Glasgow, women really are fabulous.

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 16/03/2023 04:45

It’s on YouTube already 😊

Helleofabore · 16/03/2023 05:08

I am so glad you got there womanxx. And once you start talking about it out loud, you don’t stop. I now leaflet in town centres, and people either listen or they don’t. But it is remarkable how many actually stop and those that stop, the vast majority are supportive or even (and this was surprising after hearing from extremist posters telling us we are the minority) already know and agree.

Nice pics too womanxx.

Helleofabore · 16/03/2023 06:07

Codlingmoths · 16/03/2023 04:40

I’d love to watch the melb one - will there be a YouTube or something?
a family member brought it up on the weekend. They are in the medical field and think it’s an experimental scandal on young people waiting to blow. Just for an anecdote on a random Aussie I’ve never discussed it with before for mishi

it is always live streamed and then made available unedited on YouTube after. (Hence people can check exactly what that woman accused of reading Mein Kampf actually said.)

It IS a medical scandal. And don’t worry, Mishy does know it is too. They started a bit of a worshipping thread on here on Michelle Telfer a year or so ago. Didn’t Telfer get moved out or sidelined out of their role recently?

She certainly has gone very quiet with all the news from Dr Cass and Tavistock over here and the guidance from the RANZCP that her treatment plans seemed to contradict somewhat, and the research coming out of the NSW youth and adolescent gender clinics that highlight issues, whereas Telfer’s team seem to be producing nothing to counter that research. Particularly too since Australia’s first detransitioner court case was announced.

In fact, she really seems to have disappeared lately, despite Mishy very confidently posting how Telfer “is a true feminist and hero” in this thread linked below. I suspect she will not be considered a hero in years to come. And I doubt she is a feminist at all.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4253558-Australian-Trans-Children-Positive-Support-including-by-the-Medical-Association

Sadly though, codling your family member is spot on about the scandal.

NotYourCisterinAus · 16/03/2023 07:17

MishyJDI · 15/03/2023 12:05

Doesn't look very successful. About 20 people turning up to each event, and many One Nation supporters, that are not exactly known for their feminism. Most Aussies are not interested in the sort of anti-feminism masking itself as protecting rights and having attendees quote Mein Kampf as happened in the UK. KJK really is an own goal. Glad it is going well!

Last December One National call for a Senate inquiry into the use of puberty blockers. The motion was voted down by Labor and the Greens, with the help of four Liberal senators. I have never, nor will I ever, vote for One Nation, but some things transcend politics.

Incidentally, none of this was reported by the main stream media, which I find rather telling!

ShamedBySiri · 16/03/2023 08:18

It's a great tour, there have been fantastic speakers at each event.

Shocking things I've learnt?

Government materials discussing the sexuality of BABIES !

Victoria passing a law that means parents who try to protect their children (or therapists who try to look at the wider picture and actually - you know - do some therapy) can be fined $250,000 plus ten years in prison.

Who the hell dreamed that up? They really, really want to get at the children don't they. And break up families. Beat down safeguards - which start with the family.
And Western Australia is looking to bring in the same law.

Utterly shocking.

Thank goodness Kelly Jay has made it over there to give women a chance to speak and get these things out into the open.

10UsernamesNotAvailableTryAnotherOne · 17/03/2023 03:34

I'm so excited for tomorrow's Let Women Speak in Melbourne!

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations · 17/03/2023 05:23

Are you going?

I’m looking forward to the live feed and have everything crossed that whilst I know there’ll be loud, aggressive protesters there is no actual violence and everyone stays safe.

I would love it if the protesters would also actually try letting women speak, and listening, but I don’t think that’s going to happen 😕

GlorianaCervixia · 17/03/2023 05:40

MishyJDI · 15/03/2023 12:05

Doesn't look very successful. About 20 people turning up to each event, and many One Nation supporters, that are not exactly known for their feminism. Most Aussies are not interested in the sort of anti-feminism masking itself as protecting rights and having attendees quote Mein Kampf as happened in the UK. KJK really is an own goal. Glad it is going well!

This certainly isn’t true of the Sydney event I attended. Significantly more than 20 people were there and no one identified themselves as a One Nation supporter. Most people, if the mentioned a political party at all, said they had been Greens voters who now felt betrayed by their own party.

It’s a shame you feel the need to post lies but it does nicely illustrate the paucity of your arguments.

Helleofabore · 17/03/2023 08:21

It’s a shame you feel the need to post lies but it does nicely illustrate the paucity of your arguments.

I am never sure why some posters thinks the lies they post are going to do anything but show the paucity of their arguments. I suspect that it was repeated trope from twitter posted as a gleeful prod and nothing more.

Yet, this poster seems to think readers will believe they are supporting trans people. But posting blatant lies as seems common, really does the opposite. It detracts significantly from any credibility the trans supportive arguments had that wasn’t based on emotional manipulation.

Why would someone supposedly supportive of trans people want to do that?

Just like why would the protestors at these events keep up the intimidation tactics the way they are? It is just not logical.

Helleofabore · 17/03/2023 15:23

By the way Mishy how proud are you that women reportedly turned up to these rallies and left through fear of the protestors?

Here you are crowing about numbers that have been dishonestly reported! Have you ever stopped and thought, mmm… maybe crowing about women being scared of aggressive protestors who are allegedly the ‘most vulnerable’ people on earth is not the look that trans people want.

So, do keep doing you but it shows you don’t seem to understand the effect you have for the support of trans people.

BoreOfWhabylon · 17/03/2023 16:05

They didn't even stop when these small,children had to walk past. Unlike KJK who haltd the speeches
twitter.com/hallidayblack/status/1636502165006204928?s=20

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Helleofabore · 17/03/2023 16:41

Yes. I saw that on the live stream where she stopped the speaker until they left.

Meanwhile the aggressive protestors simply continued and gave no consideration to those children at all.

it really does seem to highlight the issue that this is a community that demands their desires to be fulfilled and couldn’t give a toss whether other people’s needs are considered. At all.

BoreOfWhabylon · 17/03/2023 20:08

I'm a bit worried for KJK today. Not only is it likely there will be lots of TRAs but also I've read that the temperature is predicted to be 38C with a North wind.

I used to live in Melbourne; it feels like being stood next to a giant hairdryer when that wind blasts straight from Australia's arid centre.

EndlessTea · 17/03/2023 21:29

Apologies if this has already been posted, but I am listening to this now. It’s an enjoyable one.

EpicChaos · 17/03/2023 23:52

I'm hoping that my friends son and gf turn up in Melbourne, or at least that they check out KJK.
I got in touch with my friend during the week and came out as a terf to her. The problem is, that she works in a department that will likely be up to it's eyeballs in the ideology, so there's always the chance that a friendship will be lost, no matter the decades that have passed, though i doubt that will happen in this case, however, she has an 18 month thereabouts, old granddaughter living in Oz and she and her son/gf need to be aware of what's happening, imo.
Anyhoo, fingers crossed, she passed the message on. We sally forth!
Other than that, i'm looking forward to hearing the stories/poems, etc., of the good women of Melbourne.

BoreOfWhabylon · 18/03/2023 01:04

Link for Melbourne libestream
https://www.youtube.com/live/9o47VZvDgAA?feature=share

BoreOfWhabylon · 18/03/2023 01:06

Trying again
youtube.com/live/9o47VZvDgAA?feature=share

EpicChaos · 18/03/2023 01:14

BoreOfWhabylon · 18/03/2023 01:06

Cheers! @BoreOfWhabylon

BoreOfWhabylon · 18/03/2023 01:16

Loads of people have turned up!

Police keeping the opposition well back.

zaramysaviour · 18/03/2023 01:19

Thank you, @BoreOfWhabylon! I've been unable to make it at the last minute, so I have this streaming in a corner of my work screen.

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