Let Women SPeak - Australia & NZ tour

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I am so excited that this is coming to Australia - I will hopefully be attending.

Anyone else?

Now you want a pinned tweet.....

Well, something a little more obvious than the NZ Herald :)

As I said, never enough.

Perhaps you could draft a statement for her and tell her where it needs to be published so you can be satisfied she has sufficiently distanced herself.

My questions are: is there really a connection between those neo nazis and someone high up on the police? why did they police usher them through? And how did they get there without a permit?

This neo nazism is, apparently, completely home grown. And well known. And yet their media seems to be leveraging it to blame a visiting women's group, and the politicians are going along with it!

Nor expecting you to answer yet, just general musing.

All really good questions and I hope that there is a proper enquiry (although I haven't caught up properly with the allegations that the police let them in so I can't really personally comment).

Perhaps you could draft a statement for her and tell her where it needs to be published so you can be satisfied she has sufficiently distanced herself.

Hyperbole again.

if you disenfranchise people with genuine concerns about certain issues by branding them as bigoted and evil then they will gravitate towards people who don't make those judgements about them

and this is why my default reaction to anyone being called a Nazi is ‘yeah, right’

1. no one is a Nazi. It’s not 1938
2. loads of people get painted as far right with zero justification. I have in fact been accused of being a far right racist on another thread today (I’m not)

it’s so counterproductive. However the last thing I want to do is fall to take genuine far right extremism seriously. I will monitor myself for this.

But I really don’t think there’s as much far right extremism around as people think, given that being a bit miffed because you couldn’t get a GPs appointment due to your local resources being stretched to the limit in part because of unrestricted immigration from the EU got you painted as a far right bigot during the heady days of Brexit debates

How about hearing from the organiser?

Is it?

You keep moving the goal posts so the only way I can see you would be satisfied is if you did job yourself or perhaps accept that you may just have to live with not feeling better about it.

How about hearing from the organiser?

A whole hour of talking heads? Thank you, but I'll skip it.

I'll keep an eye out for direct footage because that, to me, is more important as a primary source, or in internet speak, 'a receipt', possibly.

That's not hyperbole, it's facetiousness.
Hyperbole is a vastly exaggerated representation of something e.g. OMG trans people are being literally rounded up and genocided!
Facetiousness is when someone has to reply to the same "genuine concern" for the million billionth time ( a extra little free hyperbole example for you ), and they no longer believe the "genuine concern" is genuine and they start getting all fukking sarcy as a result. What @FOJN was trying to hilight is that whatever KJK does, it's never enough. FOJN made a facetious suggestion about what might satisfy you, their point being it will not satisfy the queuing endless zombie horde waiting behind you ( both hyperbole and facetiousness ).

Is it?

Yes.

That's not hyperbole, it's facetiousness.

Fair enough. I actually think it is both but I'm not going to argue the point.

It's not. There is no element of hysterical blowing things out of all proportion. It is a sarcastic suggestion. Read it again, and explain what is being blown out of proportion.

Perhaps you could draft a statement for her and tell her where it needs to be published so you can be satisfied she has sufficiently distanced herself.

Footage you say?

It's not. There is no element of hysterical blowing things out of all proportion. It is a sarcastic suggestion. Read it again, and explain what is being blown out of proportion.

To be honest, I can't be arsed. I'll take facetious and sarcastic - they are good enough for me.

Thanks, Alison. I can't see where the police let the neo nazis through but I'm not denying that it happened. I hope that it is fully investigated.

Didn't we go though all this KJK smearing stuff yesterday or the day before and it hit 1K and auto locked? Much memery and fun was had towards the end.
I though there was like a negotaited truce with KJK "concern" trolls where everyone had agreed to only one of these threads a week.

Well at least we have soon good news re Kellie-Jay, the police have dropped the charges.
Did anyone guess correctly who made the charges ?
I didn't. It was Fox Fisher

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/mar/23/senator-lidia-thorpe-knocked-to-ground-in-struggle-with-police-anti-trans-rally-kellie-jay-keen-posie-parker-canberra-australia

Aboriginal senator of Victoria Lidia Thorpe is thrown to the ground.

"Let women speak, but only the ones who agree with us."

Yes, far better to have let Lidia bundle KJK to the ground, whilst shouting, "You're not welcome."

Lidia didn't want KJK, or her supporters, to speak, did she?

Why is that OK? She doesn't agree with KJK and tried to stop HER from speaking and you think that's absolutely rinky-dink. Hypocrite.

"given that being a bit miffed because you couldn’t get a GPs appointment due to your local resources being stretched to the limit in part because of unrestricted immigration from the EU got you painted as a far right bigot during the heady days of Brexit debates"

Or, as happened recently, opposing the Mayor of London's extension to the Emissions Zone got you painted as 'far right extremist'. Apparently you can't possibly protest at anything nowadays, because the far-right might turn up and then you're 'enabling' them.

That's disingenuous, not sure if that's you and/or the Guardian.

She didn't want to speak, she wanted to disrupt, otherwise she would have joined the queue and waited her turn just like everyone else.

Lidia didn't want KJK, or her supporters, to speak, did she?

Indeed.

https://twitter.com/salltweets/status/1638842187969593350

'Terds', police facilitating neo nazis and now Lidia saying 'that thing' to describe KJK.

How brave the women are who are speaking up in Australia...

Sall Grover's tweets have been so good.

Why is Lidia Thorpe claiming she was pulverised by the police? I've watched to footage several times and the police were trying to escort her away and she either fell or threw herself on the ground, you can clearly hear the police officer saying, "ma'am I'm going to need you to stand up".

Looks like there are embarrassing politicians all over the world.

There is no footage that I have seen of where the Police let them through.

I wrote a post yesterday that detailed there movements. Out of exasperation of people declaring these men 'stood next to women'. Did you see that?

Here it is again.

The first nazi mention I found was at 4.05 minutes on a live feed where KJK arrived at 28.49 minutes. They were video'ed at 5.30 minutes. They were well in place by this time so already there.

The NSN, Neo nazis, moved to the middle of the street in front of Parliament House at 36.00 minutes. They didn't move to the stairs 'beside' the women's speaking until 50.48 minutes.

They were walked out by police at 1:06.00.

So, they were there longer than 60 minutes and were not corralled by police at all. Why not? Why did police judge this group to be not a threat? They are fucking Neo-nazis !

They were 'beside' the women for 15:12 minutes. So around 1/4 of the time that they were there.

To be generous, they were up closer to the women for 30 minutes. So less than half of their time if you want to get really ridiculous and declare in the middle of the road to be 'on the side' of the women.

This is the link

www.facebook.com/therealrukshan/videos/229529329488872/

I have repeatedly pointed out the questions need to answered as to why Victorian Police allowed these men to be any where in that section.

From this footage, and it is long!, there is no police barrier protecting women because the police corralled the other groups separately. Who the fuck let these men through?

I don't believe the Police do not recognise this group. They have been active on social media. They must be on watch lists! One is even a Victorian policeman's son! Yet these men were allowed into the middle with relatively unprotected women.

And the media have completely over looked this from what I have seen although I have not really caught up much in the past 12 hours.