Let Women SPeak - Australia & NZ tour

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I am so excited that this is coming to Australia - I will hopefully be attending.

Anyone else?

The slaughtered millions whose graves you so casually claim I'm 'dancing' on include dozens of members of my family, you weird sick person.

They don't mine, but my parents remembered the war vividly and both played parts in its aftermath including in previously occupied nations on the European mainland. My childhood included very clear and strict instruction that Nazi ideals and any modern manifestation of these were an abomination.

The minimising of this here is really quite distressing.

Yes dear, I'm a TRA. Sigh. Of course I am.

And in what way do the group of men who were at that event not meet this definition? There's stuff they've written that is indeed very anti-women. They include known Nazis. They use all the iconography and behaviour of Nazis to signal very clearly they are Nazis.

As I said, international media had no difficulty recognising this.

Why can't you?

How about a thread on FWR started by a supporter of the LWS Tour that explicitly, openly and without question denounces the neo nazi presence at that protest? We can all chime in with our agreement. That would make it very clear.

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good grief.

Have you even read other people's posts? In the past few pages.

There are people on this thread telling us that they were there to support the women!

No. It isn't that I can't.

It is because I have repeatedly told you to fucking go back and read my fucking posts.

They use all the iconography and behaviour of Nazis to signal very clearly they are Nazis.

<Puts on pirate hat, shouts 'ahar Jim lad' a lot and swigs rum, and signals very clearly that I have major involvement in the rum running and other highly dodgy politics of a couple of centuries ago. Cos it's not like I need to do anything is it? If you identify as, you are! Nothing more than image and a few actions needed!>

Jesus wept. What makes you think ANY of us have got ANYTHING to do with Nazis? There have been multiple denouncements on multiple threads and I don't really understand why you think you need to hold up another hoop for women to jump through.

A pp had it right when she said this is all a big struggle session to you lot. You're not into Nazis but you do love a bit of cultural revolution, don't you?

You claim the far right men there were there to support the women.

I haven't seen anyone claiming this except TRAs.

Please explain why you think this. I have seen zero evidence for this position - in fact the contrary, the men there have made it very clear in writing that they utterly despised women’s rights.

But if you know different, I'm sure we all can't wait for you to post the evidence.

I'll wait...

Ah yes, claiming the Jewish poster is really a Nazi.

I'm not going to bother to engage with that, strangely.

You should.

I have no idea yet as to what you think far right is. You don't seem sure. In fact at this point I have very little idea as to any points that you're making aside from some increasingly wild claims. But I am finding this casual weaponising of the word 'Nazi' really quite staggeringly horrible.

What?

You could just go the whole hog and accuse me of cultural Marxism why don't you.

Come on, let's get your dogwhistling out in the open.

FFS.

Let me get this straight...

The Nazis issued a statement saying they were attending because they didn't want 'feminists' to be unopposed in reinforcing cultural Marxism and KJK was promoting lesbianism.

KJK says they are nothing to do with her, she finds their views abhorrent, doesn't understand how they even exist in 2023 and didn't even know that that particular group of men in black were Nazis until they started saluting and she has no idea why the police allowed them in.

Soc fems say the Nazis were there to support KJK and she needs to try harder to denounce them because the perceived association is harming their efforts to make progress with left wing politicians.

Neither the Nazis or KJK have spoken in support of each other but somehow there is a perceived association.

COULD THE SOC FEMS STOP SELF SABOTAGING BY MANUFACTURING THE PERCEPTION OF AN ASSOCIATION, IT ONLY EXISTS IN YOUR HEADS

It's like watching you punch yourself in the face and then demanding I stop the pain.

Believe it or not Spartacus the main Jewish association had a senior representative state that they did not believe that there was any connection between the women and the National Socialist Network.

On twitter, they were hounded as being 'far right' themselves.

The more you actually follow this, the more confounding it gets.

Nils I think I love you

this is what I have been too impatient and stupid to say

The minimising of this here is really quite distressing.

This.

The downplaying of the very real threat from the far-right/neo-nazis in Australia on this thread is disgusting.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-51621679

Oh sure you are.

That's why you accused a Jewish poster who has posted many times about being descended from Holocaust survivors of 'dancing on the graves' of the 6 million murdered.

You really come across like someone who cares deeply about the word Nazi being used wrongly.

And you certainly never make 'increasingly wild claims'. Oh no.

I'm sure anyone reading this thread can figure out everything they need to about you.

The thing about dog whistles is that only dogs can hear them.

I don't know if you're a marxist or whatever, but you behave and talk like an authoritarian. It's very clear what side you're on, and it's not women's.

Was KJK supposed to sort that out for them too? Or are you suggesting she took them with her to Australia.

Perhaps the Australian Intelligence Service could do something about it?

Believe it or not Spartacus the main Jewish association had a senior representative state that they did not believe that there was any connection between the women and the National Socialist Network.

I did see that and it is somewhat confusing as you say although I know enough to unpick some of it and why it might be said (even if I don't agree with it).

But that's not the issue.

I don't think there was any connection at all.

For me, though as an ethical imperative born of my own morality and history, I want to make this publicly clear as well as that GC feminists denounce Nazism, neo nazism and those connected who use other names, and not for political reasons but as a categorical imperative.

I'm not on the same side as you, that's for sure.

I'm sure that regular posters can figure out exactly which side you're on.

From that article: "small cells" of right-wing extremists were meeting regularly to salute Nazi flags and share their ideology.

With what aims? What politics? What power? What intentions? Which seats are they standing for? What rallies are they holding to gain listeners?

Or are we talking about the kind of dabbling with image that's rather popular across the world at the moment?

Because one is a very serious issue, and cannot be allowed to rise into political office. The other is a symptom of a very different problem, that goes with identity politics.

They know exactly what they're doing. Was it you who said it was a struggle session? Whoever it was, was exactly right. They think they can wear us down with absurdities and accusations.

Yes, I think that's very true. I'm quite sure readers will be able to pick the sense out of this.