Let Women SPeak - Australia & NZ tour

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I am so excited that this is coming to Australia - I will hopefully be attending.

Anyone else?

Well said.

Still waiting for you to define the far right, @Helleofabore

For some reason, you seem unclear if men in black uniforms sieg-heiling are far right or...I don't know, just a normal bunch of mainstream lads having a laff with their mates.

Are you going to enlighten us on what exactly you think constitutes far right if this doesn't meet your very high bar??!

Exactly though, the Nazis were there to support SFW because they think SFW are on the same page as them.

Where are they claiming this? Did I miss something? I've only seen them denouncing KJK for her pro-lesbianism.

There was the thing above talking about the " Anti-Transgenderism/Anti-Grooming rally", but what makes you think that refers to Let Women Speak, rather than THEIR rally?

For some reason, you seem unclear if men in black uniforms sieg-heiling are far right or...I don't know, just a normal bunch of mainstream lads having a laff with their mates.

Are you going to enlighten us on what exactly you think constitutes far right if this doesn't meet your very high bar??!

I wonder what Melbourne's sizeable Jewish population thinks.

Oh right. It was on another thread.

Apologies, but I don't stalk you on here.

Surely it would be quicker to just say - we're those men far right or not in your opinion?

A yes or no will do. One word. Yes - they were far right or No - they weren't, despite looking and behaving exactly like a pretty classic definition of the far right.

Go on. Yes. Or no.

Which is it?,

And yet, on other threads a 'right wing' speaker was denigrated as being 'far right'. Here on FWR.

This is happening. Just because you don't think it is happening, doesn't mean it is not happening.

The people on this thread that you are accusing very personally are probably the people who very well know the difference. The reason we keep asking is because on FWR and over the internet people who are not 'far right' are being described as being 'far right.'

We can keep repeating this, and you can keep denying this. But it will get this thread nowhere.

For some reason, you seem unclear if men in black uniforms sieg-heiling are far right or...I don't know, just a normal bunch of mainstream lads having a laff with their mates.

Oh for fucks sake. While you're dancing on the graves of slaughtered millions, would you care to pull out:

• the political AIMS of this formed group that are so very dangerous
• their policies
• how this reinvented third reich apparently is now passionately supportive of women's equality, access, diversity, child safeguarding and homosexual females when the third reich actually murdered lesbians and were very into child medical experiments and would have had maya and julie bindel straight in the gas chambers for being non-aryan
• what they are achieving politically?

No they are not mainstream lads. They are offensive cosplay thugs after attention and jollies.

I am now going to don a fucking gilet, put on riding boots and a scarf and turn into Princess Anne, since apparently all I need to do is wear the costume and do the odd action or say a few lines and it's Total Authentic Reality to some.

I have had plenty to say on this thread. Why don't you read it?

Is this a private interrogation or can we all watch.

There's some ducking bizzare behaviour going on here this week.

HOW are they being far right?

WHAT THE FUCK IS far right?

What policies? What ACTIONS?

Did the feminists in Australia do this?

I hope so.

Does anyone have any info on this?

they looked like the Southampton students that visit Cowes every term to play Pub Golf, except with a change of clothes. A bunch of wee bawbags acting the goat for attention who'd probably be away home to their mum's house for a sandwich with all crisps on the side if it started raining.

Just catching up but this is hilarious

totally inappropriate footwear for storming a meeting being held on grass Lydia. Think it through next time lady

the chants of ‘Let women speak’ in response to her ridiculous behaviour were great

they looked like the Southampton students that visit Cowes every term to play Pub Golf, except with a change of clothes. A bunch of wee bawbags acting the goat for attention who'd probably be away home to their mum's house for a sandwich with all crisps on the side if it started raining.

You really need to do some Googling because they really aren't. Even a cursory search will reveal that NN groups are a real threat in both Australia and New Zealand.

I said what they looked like. I'm quite sure there are real bad people about. Maybe they were at home that day.

xxyzz is one of the very people who regularly conflate 'right' with 'far right' and throws around accusations of racism and Naziism with abandon whenever it suits them not to have to respond to a poster or they can't think of anything else to say.

You're part of the problem, xxyzz. If you don't want people to conflate right with far right, why don't you stop doing it?

What is it about the culture of Australia and New Zealand that emboldens and nurtures these wankers?

Perhaps KJK could have got them to sign a piece of paper? That's always worked with Nazis....oh no.....wait!

Me? You want me to define far right? Sorry I have been reading pages back and this just caught my eye while posting an answer for something else.

I, that is me personally, define the 'far right' as a group of people who hold views that are autocratic, and often based on a nationalistic ideal that may also reflect a deeply authoritative religious ideal (that is usually harmful to women and to other minorities).

I have never professed to have any qualifications in politics. I am clear on FWR that I am not politically aligned with any party. So this 'definition' is hurried and not well thought out but I am actually trying to get some work done.

Just because I didn't answer your questions and asked instead that you read my posts, you seem to have taken this as a personal attack by me as I am reading your posts.

Why should I have had to repeat myself yet again on this very thread because you couldn't be arsed to read and then ask questions that I didn't feel I have answered?

Yes, I've done a very sophisticated name change from Anactor to Anactor. I'm sneaky like that.

That your first thought is that someone whose user name you don't know must be a name-change is revealing. How many sock-puppets/name-changes do you have?

My other question would be to ask why you're supporting the far-right? You've taken a smallish group of LARPing thugs, who might crash protests on a regular basis, and given them a massive amount of publicity. You're insisting that everyone who supports Posie Parker must be far-right, which is making it sound as if the neo-Nazis have sensible ideas. You're derailing the discussion of what was actually said at the Let Women Speak events...

The only thing left for you to do is to hand out their leaflets. You're effectively their biggest ally.

But, of course, that's a very old propaganda technique you're using. Create an enemy, make it sound like a huge threat, accuse any opponents of being part of the 'enemy grouping'. The fact that the 'enemy' is either a minor problem or completely imaginary is immaterial.

The important thing is that it's your grouping who ends up with the power.

The slaughtered millions whose graves you so casually claim I'm 'dancing' on include dozens of members of my family, you weird sick person. Though your attempt to attack a publicly Jewish poster with offensive claims about the Holocaust has been noted, and conclusions drawn.

By your definition, a Nazi is ever so conveniently only a historical figure, one who died some years ago and has already committed mass genocide.

That is not of course the definition of neo-Nazi or far right - and as far as I know, the only people for this is a helpful game to play are people who are themselves on the far right, trying to maintain plausible deniability.

Normal people don't sieg-heil - and normal people recognise that behaviour as overtly far right. It's not cosplaying and in many countries in the world where they recognise Nazism only too well due to their history, that behaviour would be criminal.

Posts like yours are like warm nectar to TRAs, who are no doubt screenshotting these as proof that MN is so far right it cannot recognise as far right the men every newspaper headline correctly identified as Nazis.

I don't know who on earth you think you're helping with this stunt, but it sure as hell ain't women.

Again, your claim that the Nazis at that event supported women’s rights is one that's only ever made by TRAs. Are you a TRA? Why would you make such a bizarre claim??

Cor

turn out it’s not just gender ideologists who get shirty when asked to explain why they believe what they believe

if those kind of questions make you so uncomfortable you go on the attack, I’d politely suggest that’s a you problem

I said what they looked like. I'm quite sure there are real bad people about. Maybe they were at home that day.

Or maybe they were the bad people. Do you have inside knowledge that they were not?

In any case, it isn't funny and it isn't a lark. I've had gay male friends bashed by neo nazis in Germany (where the movement is still active as well) and more locally, friends wearing hijabs spat at by nasty little bovver boys.

Either way, it's fucking offensive that some posters here are minimising it.

Imagine how the family members of the Christchurch shooting felt.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/dec/08/christchurch-shooter-was-active-with-australian-far-right-groups-online-but-escaped-police-attention

Ah yes, claiming the Jewish poster is really a Nazi.

I'm not going to bother to engage with that, strangely.

Enjoy the emoji fail.

Let's try that again.

Sorry, I just came across the post you have been talking about.

Please go back and read my posts. I have been very clear who these men are. Including what I believe their intention was.

Your questions here are irrelevant when you go back and read my posts. You could have saved yourself the effort.