Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Let Women SPeak - Australia & NZ tour

1000 replies

ZombieMumEB · 11/02/2023 06:41

I am so excited that this is coming to Australia - I will hopefully be attending.

Anyone else?

Let Women SPeak - Australia & NZ tour
OP posts:
Thread gallery
58
GlorianaCervixia · 21/03/2023 20:35

I don't think many women will go to the event in Canberra. It's a very small, very woke left-wing city so the potential social consequences for women attending will be a deterrent. Add to that, the fear of violence from transactivists and lack of confidence in the police to hold them back.

It's shocking that the media and politicians have led to women feeling too afraid to speak in public. I feel so despondent about the situation here.

BoreOfWhabylon · 21/03/2023 20:41

@GlorianaCervixia
The darkest hour is just before dawn.

IwantToRetire · 21/03/2023 20:42

I had thought the Guardian was ducking out of this, ie no big glaring headlines but by accidant found something called "live news" (I think) and must to Australian based.

And it used phrases like nazi sympathisers etc., and they allowed comments in real time, and they were all going on about it being transphobia and anti LGBTQI+ etc..

And also checked to see if any newspaper had posted links to their stories of KJK / SFW on their facebook pages. And they haven't. Must have realised they would just have been inundated with comments about false reporting.

The more I read about Hobart the worse it seems.

And the politicians still making political capital out of it.

And guess what? Nowhere are women's rights mentioned. No where are women's need for single sex services mentioned.

IwantToRetire · 21/03/2023 20:45

Australian Press Council

The Press Council promotes freedom of speech and responsible journalism. It also sets standards and responds to complaints about material in Australian newspapers and magazines, as well as a growing number of online-only publications.

Online form to make a complaint
presscouncil.org.au/complaints/make-a-complaint

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 21:04

How about we also take some time to listen to this snippet.

https://twitter.com/salltweets/status/1636966573629149184?s=20

https://twitter.com/salltweets/status/1636966573629149184?s=20

JoodyBlue · 21/03/2023 21:18

Just watched the live stream from Hobart. The women there are so so brave. And the energy and the courage that Kellie shows is incredible. Words fail me really. How can this be happening?

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 21:57

Someone has finally been able to make changes to KJK’s Wikipedia page.

The spurious claims and guilt by association has been removed for the time being. All that damage! Because Wikipedia wouldn’t allow her to insist only verified facts could be posted.

FOJN · 21/03/2023 22:06

BoreOfWhabylon · 21/03/2023 20:41

@GlorianaCervixia
The darkest hour is just before dawn.

I hope you are right but I've been waiting for the sun to rise for about 5 years and I'm not feeling very hopeful at the moment, it actually feels like things continue to get worse.

The situation in Australia has made me feel quite despondent today.

Onnabugeisha · 21/03/2023 22:21

13 October 2019, KJK using her handle Posie Parker does an 80min video with white supremacist Jean Gariepy titled Being Female | w/ Posie Parker, TPS #548 During which Jean read questions from the regular chat for KJK to answer. Literally ten seconds after KJK signs off, Jean reads the question “Are you going to ask her if she is Jewish?”

Jean responded:
”Look guys it’s not always a relevant question to ask in an interview. Secondly, I don’t think that Posie has the physical features that would lead me to detect Jewry in her. And so I’m not going to ask this question.”

Beggars belief that she never watched the video she was on just like it beggars belief that she had no idea who and what Gariepy is. After all a two second google results in 15 March 2018 “A prominent far-right YouTuber who calls for a white “ethnostate” and makes videos with Richard Spencer is accused of luring and attempting to impregnate a developmentally disabled Hispanic teenager while lawyers contested his U.S. immigration status. This comes amid a separate legal battle with his wife, who accused him of trying to kidnap their infant to Canada.” www.thedailybeast.com/alt-right-youtuber-accused-of-luring-autistic-teen-in-pregnancy-plot.

No surprise now in 2023 after 4yrs of nurturing these sorts of connections that her “friends” came out from under their rocks to support her despite her claiming to “abhor” them.

”The sieg heiling neo-Nazis who turned up at Keen-Minshull’s speaking event in Victoria are a known group. They are the Nationalist Socialist Network (NSN) led by Tom Sewell. Sewell made clear that the group attended to support the anti-transgender event, posting to the social media platform Telegram that they acted as a “vanguard” against the “constant paedophilic agenda”. He ended the post saying “paedophiles deserve destruction, and the only solution to this sickness is white revolution!” www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/byron-clark-an-open-letter-to-the-minister-of-immigration-about-anti-trans-activist-posie-parker/ZPTRWH4ZDJHOHCE6JTSYIFRK5Y/

Her reaction this time is to spread false rumours:

“Anti-trans activists have tried to deny the presence of neo-Nazis at their rally on Saturday by spreading unfounded and false claims they were left-wing activists or undercover police, despite the far-right group’s own message of support.”

“In the aftermath of the Melbourne appearance of Kellie-Jay Keen Let Women Speak tour, the UK-based anti-trans campaigner live-streamed a “post-event chat” where she sipped champagne with Victorian Liberal MP Moira Deeming, failed Liberal candidate for Warringah Katherine Deves and anti-trans campaigner and host of TERF Talk Down Under Angie Jones.
During the broadcast, Keen repeatedly claimed that a group of men who gave Nazi salutes, chanted “white power”, shouted slurs at the LGBTQIA+ protesters, and included public neo-Nazi figures might not have been neo-Nazis.

“All of this doesn’t make any sense, it feels really off. I mean, look in the UK. We had police impregnating animal rights campaigners. And we had those police infiltrating those groups. I don’t think it’s beyond the wits of anyone to think that either that was TRAs [trans rights activists] dressed up, or police, or, something was just off,” she said.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2023/03/20/kellie-jay-keen-anti-trans-neo-nazis-protest-melbourne/

Anti-trans rally speakers are falsely claiming neo-Nazi supporters were undercover police, trans activists

Anti-trans activist Kellie-Jay Keen sipped champagne as she told an online broadcast that the neo-Nazis' presence 'felt really off'.

https://www.crikey.com.au/2023/03/20/kellie-jay-keen-anti-trans-neo-nazis-protest-melbourne/

Datun · 21/03/2023 22:25

That's interesting. They cannot continue to insist on no debate. It doesn't work in the long run.

I know next to nothing about Australia, it's politics or the way communication works. I know it's a huge country but with a fairly small population, relatively.

I hope that the small population will count in our favour and the actual number of people, women and children mostly, who are negatively affected by trans ideology will be significant. That they will talk to each other. That they will form groups. And that they will march towards a critical mass.

I agree it's a very dark hour. I hope it's the one before dawn.

Datun · 21/03/2023 22:31

Obviously I wasn't responding to Onnabugeisha, nothing they post is of the slightest interest.

I was responding to flyingbuttress43 noting that btl comments are all turned off.

lifeturnsonadime · 21/03/2023 23:22

Helleofabore · 21/03/2023 21:04

How about we also take some time to listen to this snippet.

https://twitter.com/salltweets/status/1636966573629149184?s=20

Helle that clip made me cry when I watched it the other day.

Tears of joy that she got to speak, tears of anger that she had to speak and tears of frustration at the words she spoke.

Flowers
lifeturnsonadime · 21/03/2023 23:23

Onnabugeisha · 21/03/2023 22:21

13 October 2019, KJK using her handle Posie Parker does an 80min video with white supremacist Jean Gariepy titled Being Female | w/ Posie Parker, TPS #548 During which Jean read questions from the regular chat for KJK to answer. Literally ten seconds after KJK signs off, Jean reads the question “Are you going to ask her if she is Jewish?”

Jean responded:
”Look guys it’s not always a relevant question to ask in an interview. Secondly, I don’t think that Posie has the physical features that would lead me to detect Jewry in her. And so I’m not going to ask this question.”

Beggars belief that she never watched the video she was on just like it beggars belief that she had no idea who and what Gariepy is. After all a two second google results in 15 March 2018 “A prominent far-right YouTuber who calls for a white “ethnostate” and makes videos with Richard Spencer is accused of luring and attempting to impregnate a developmentally disabled Hispanic teenager while lawyers contested his U.S. immigration status. This comes amid a separate legal battle with his wife, who accused him of trying to kidnap their infant to Canada.” www.thedailybeast.com/alt-right-youtuber-accused-of-luring-autistic-teen-in-pregnancy-plot.

No surprise now in 2023 after 4yrs of nurturing these sorts of connections that her “friends” came out from under their rocks to support her despite her claiming to “abhor” them.

”The sieg heiling neo-Nazis who turned up at Keen-Minshull’s speaking event in Victoria are a known group. They are the Nationalist Socialist Network (NSN) led by Tom Sewell. Sewell made clear that the group attended to support the anti-transgender event, posting to the social media platform Telegram that they acted as a “vanguard” against the “constant paedophilic agenda”. He ended the post saying “paedophiles deserve destruction, and the only solution to this sickness is white revolution!” www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/byron-clark-an-open-letter-to-the-minister-of-immigration-about-anti-trans-activist-posie-parker/ZPTRWH4ZDJHOHCE6JTSYIFRK5Y/

Her reaction this time is to spread false rumours:

“Anti-trans activists have tried to deny the presence of neo-Nazis at their rally on Saturday by spreading unfounded and false claims they were left-wing activists or undercover police, despite the far-right group’s own message of support.”

“In the aftermath of the Melbourne appearance of Kellie-Jay Keen Let Women Speak tour, the UK-based anti-trans campaigner live-streamed a “post-event chat” where she sipped champagne with Victorian Liberal MP Moira Deeming, failed Liberal candidate for Warringah Katherine Deves and anti-trans campaigner and host of TERF Talk Down Under Angie Jones.
During the broadcast, Keen repeatedly claimed that a group of men who gave Nazi salutes, chanted “white power”, shouted slurs at the LGBTQIA+ protesters, and included public neo-Nazi figures might not have been neo-Nazis.

“All of this doesn’t make any sense, it feels really off. I mean, look in the UK. We had police impregnating animal rights campaigners. And we had those police infiltrating those groups. I don’t think it’s beyond the wits of anyone to think that either that was TRAs [trans rights activists] dressed up, or police, or, something was just off,” she said.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2023/03/20/kellie-jay-keen-anti-trans-neo-nazis-protest-melbourne/

Onna, really, don't you care about the women she platforms.

Really?

IwantToRetire · 22/03/2023 00:46

The Daily Mail is now quoting WPUK to justify their coverage of KJK!!!!

I've written other posts where I've wondered about the link from AGCL to WPUK to the false wordpress blog, and whether in fact by spreading the false notion that KJK is actually working with nazi was in fact a way to get nazi to attend her events.

And now the Daily Mail in its continuing suprisingly "woke" coverage of the SfW tour is quoting evidence from WPUK and Jean Hackett as a known sympathiser blah, blah, blah, blah. And that "women's rights" campaigners in the UK do not support her.

Suprising they have managed to get some early "facts" about KJK but managed to overlook the sucess of the SfW events here in the UK.

I may previously have been disgusted with these groups, but what the DM report shows is that effectively this rabid anti free speech "feminists" are responsible for ramping up the anti KJK, ie encouraging violence against women, not just violence against women but against women struggling to get their voices heard of the violence and other issues with men.

Shame on them.

If anyone should be blacklisted they should. Antifa's Aunt Lydias

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11883261/How-transphobe-Kellie-Jay-Keen-aka-Posie-Parker-caused-controversy-Australian-tour.html

How Kellie-Jay Keen has caused controversy in Australia

The British anti-trans activist, 48 - who has been supported by JK Rowling - has faced criticism from LGBTIQA+ and feminist groups after Nazis attended her Melbourne rally.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11883261/How-transphobe-Kellie-Jay-Keen-aka-Posie-Parker-caused-controversy-Australian-tour.html

SinnerBoy · 22/03/2023 01:05

Helleofabore · Yesterday 14:51

Kirsten Banks took the view that the trans activists, whose lives are being 'threatened' were being pushed away by the police. She claims to have watched the footage. Yet seems to have missed that the trans activists rushing at the police for them to be 'pushed back'. There really is a disconnect in thinking here.

I don't think it's disconnected thinking, just a confident lie, to further their aims. They're lying and they don't care, because they are fanatics, who believe that anything is justified, in pursuing their agenda.

They and their supporters are confident enough to spout easily disprovable lies because they know that most of the media are onside and won't question it.

It's an extremely disturbing situation.

SinnerBoy · 22/03/2023 01:09

This reply has been deleted

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

LittleFingerStrength · 22/03/2023 01:29

I knew many knew that information about her family and it was out there, I never bothered to dig for it, what have her family (private individuals) to do with her campaigns?

Bosky · 22/03/2023 01:52

LittleFingerStrength · 22/03/2023 01:29

I knew many knew that information about her family and it was out there, I never bothered to dig for it, what have her family (private individuals) to do with her campaigns?

The Daily Mail putting KJK's family info out there has immediately led to veiled threats against her daughter, starting with a little shit Sam ONeil

https://twitter.com/d4ds4g4inst/status/1638279886971326476

Ignore the Northumbria Uni bit - he is a big grown-up lad now with a job

https://twitter.com/SFWnortheast/status/1638329136694394882

https://twitter.com/d4ds4g4inst/status/1638279886971326476

SinnerBoy · 22/03/2023 02:15

Bosky · Today 01:52

The Daily Mail putting KJK's family info out there has immediately led to veiled threats against her daughter, starting with a little shit Sam ONeil

Jeez, what a sinister little shite hawk, I hope he gets sacked. I can't see the Police doing anything, despite the implicit threat in his tweet.

NancyDrawed · 22/03/2023 07:29

From the daily mail article:

Also known as Posie Parker, the mum-of-four who dresses in bright jumpsuits and sports a Marilyn Monroe-style hairdo, has built a following by claiming it's impossible to change sex as she pushes to exclude trans women from female-only spaces.

I read that and I just can't quite believe that anyone sane would disagree that it is impossible to change sex (even if they don't think that males should be kept out of female only spaces)

I just don't understand

TidyDancer · 22/03/2023 07:42

seXX · 22/03/2023 07:36

The BBC are being as impartial as ever, describing Kelly Jay as "anti-transgender activist".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-65034603

I've just emailed them about that. It's done repeatedly in that article and it pissed me off the further I read it.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.
Swipe left for the next trending thread