Let Women SPeak - Australia & NZ tour

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I am so excited that this is coming to Australia - I will hopefully be attending.

Anyone else?

I love how Helleofabore holds these people's feet to the fire.

You can't just chat shit. Or even, allegedly, 'informed' shit. You've got to actually hold your shit up to the spotlight to be examined.

Analytically. Forensically.

Then, and only then, can you legitimately take a position.

(Nothing, so far).

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Lol this is why banning words doesn’t really work. There’s always a funnier (if less succinct) way to express the same concept 😂

These threads all end up the same way though. All these claims, and eventually we will sort through the rumours and find the raw truth and also find out the motivations for the misrepresentations.

Although, I daresay we could probably name the motivation for one poster’s misogynistic labelling of Kellie Jay Keen.

A "socialist" or "marxist" is someone who claims to hate capitalism while tweeting on their newest Iphone about their funkopop collection and who have no idea what Marx actually wrote or said except for some 2 minute quick wikipedia google.

They are also the "side" who think you can comodify, corporatise and market the human body which I interpret as end stage capitalism.

Unfortunately this is all rather depressing. The general media haven’t bothered with any analysis or fact checking and are just publishing this as a nazi view which will be widely taken up, so it doesn’t feel like this has been productive. So much for right to a fair go. Plus moira deeming seems to have copped it for her support.

Here is another video from the extreme trans activist protestor side.

twitter.com/auscommenter/status/1636954578292969472?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

Those neo Nazis do seem to be saluting them in the same way they allegedly saluted the women (or actually saluted the Victorian government as it really wasn’t clear.)

Either way, shall we demand denouncements?

I did say ‘shame! Shame!’ when I read about Moira. Unfortunately, I remember thinking how the media only researched superficially during Katherine Deve’s campaign.

@Onnabugeisha " 🤣 Of course neo-NAZIs stand with KJK. I have been saying for ages KJK is a liability to women’s rights. Any feminist with any morals has distanced herself from her by now. "

You seem to have been doing an awful lot of saying but can you point me towards anything you've actually done? Anything at all, that you have personally organised that has given ordinary women a chance to speak?
And as for the rest of wpuc, no one has heard of wpuc beyond those of us paying very close attention and if those women had anything about them, they'd be stood with KJK which would dilute any attempt by any other group trying to hitch a ride but such cowardice, far easier to throw mud from a safe distance isn't it?!
And surely onnabugeisha, by now KJK has done an event somewhere you could travel to, why haven't you gone and confronted her, face to face, mano a mano, about these supposed connections she has to dodgy groups, likewise, you could call her a bimbo to her face while you're at it! Go on, i dare ya! After all, you should never say anything behind someones back, that you wouldn't say to their face, should you!

@OneMorePlant Very good post, it sums the name calling up to a tee.
It also reminds me that that's another reason why i'll never vote for starmer and co', happy to fling terms like far right around but then expecting the people they have insulted, not only to vote for them but if they're also party members, expect them to go out door knocking, canvassing, leafleting, etc., at their own cost. Yeah, righto starmer!

@Helleofabore

@Helleofabore Apologies, i forgot to post what i was going to say, lol.

" Although, I daresay we could probably name the motivation for one poster’s misogynistic labelling of Kellie Jay Keen "

It's laughable, i think.
The jealousy just oozes from every pore, it's tangible.
KJK, like her or not, has at least got off her backside, gone out and tried to do something in defence of women and children.
How any, right thinking person, can sit in good conscience and with straight face, try to rip her efforts to shreds, when to all intents and purposes, they've done sweet F A for the cause themselves, is a complete joke!

Jealousy is a nasty insidious thing, KJK must live rent free in the heads of many people, she has a good, happy family that she loves dearly, by all accounts, she's intelligent, a very bonny looking woman and damn it, she can even sing, she doesn't have to disrupt her life for the benefit of others but she does it because it's important even to the extent of not being with her own family on Mothers Day because she's out encouraging other women to use their voices, letting other women know, that they're not alone, there are others with the same worries, the courageous calling others to bring their courage and stand together as one, yet still we have the detractors, that have done the square root of sod all, well the detractors can feck the feck off all the way to Jupiter, they're a waste of oxygen!

And as for the bloke that was roughly manhandled by security, good! Play stupid games, win stupid prizes! He could have had a knife or a gun and we're expected to feel sorry for him? Feck that for a game of soldiers!

So, I wonder what some people are going to say to Julie Bindel now?

twitter.com/bindelj/status/1637511234902687744?s=46&t=HTxp6zC_d4GZ2FFv4a-YeQ

“To the misogynistic trans rights activists seeking to discredit ANY feminist that exposes gender ideology as the batshit, harmful bollox it is by suggesting that the Nazis love us. FFS. The Nazis rocked up at the StandingforXX event in order to have a stand-off with Antifa”

”and get their faces in the press. Nazis hate any woman standing up for our rights, whether feminists or antifeminists. Dickheads such as Bragg, Jones and the like could be accused of being in the KKK seeing as they supported Corbyn, so give it a rest. Scrape some other barrel.”

19/03/2023 17.47

I guess Julie has had enough of this shite too. Who is going to tell her that one of WPUK’s lot is here disagreeing with her?

Will WPUK cancel her for having the opinion that the neo Nazis didn’t ‘attend’ the SFW event but came for their own purpose and without any invitation from women or any engagement with SFW? Doesn’t quite fit their sly narrative implying that SFW had responsibility for the neo Nazis turning up.

I did have a moment of wondering when the other shoe would drop! 😁

WomanXXWorldsOriginsofMothersofAllNations-
And once again, noone was arrested on our side. And yet TRAs think they're are on the right side of history. It's amazing how little self awareness they have

‘My lot’ are WPUK and we have facilitated none of this.

I think it is worth remembering as the FiLia elephant workshop thread revealed, WPUK has been infiltrated by the bat shit purity spirals of Actual Gender Critical Left. AGCL whilst claiming to be about combating ring wing extremism actually (sorry the word is catching) aren't very good at this. And seem to think that creating the myth about KJK as being a nazi sympathiser they can agrandise themselves as being at the front line of fighting reactionaries.

But for this to be plausible they have to persuade any number of people (think how many attended the SfW events in Glasgow - who knew Scotland had so many nazi sympathisers willing to appear in public) that their allegations are true.

So not content with their feeble facebook efforts, and using their more friendly face WPUK, to scare women with myths about nazis front and foremost at SfW events, they then create a fake Australian feminist group that posts the content of an NUS leaflet decrying KJK on a dubious wordpress blog. Which not only was so badly done that everyone thought it was a spoof or something, their shortcomings as socialists feminists were illustrated by the statement by an actual (sorry!) social feminist group which defended KJK right to speak.

If anything what it looks like now is that ACGL / WPUK have all along been frantically signally to actual (oh no sorry again) right wing groups, look here, this "bimbo" supports you. Please, please turn up at her rallly and prove us right.

And whilst it is really distressing to see that Australian MSM has been completely Stonewalled, and even the DM has published these false flag opinion pieces mascarading as news, it has in fact back fired.

It has now become such a complete over reach that most ordianary people are just laughing.

If it wasn't so ugly you would want to laugh.

Lefties so desparate to prove themselves right ended up giving right wing extremists encouragement to get engaged.

GlorianaCervixia-What a shame. Moira did nothing wrong, it wasn't her fault that the police let them in. Now she is being kicked out of the Liberal Party and labelled a Nazi due to guilt by association, even though she didn't associate with them at all. I was there, does that make me, a person of Jewish heritage, a Nazi because those arseholes showed up? Does it make me a violent TRA just because violent TRAs always show up to LWS events? No it doesn't. It's shocking how women are always held responsible for the actions of men. Literally the first rule of misogyny right there. 😡

Victorian Liberals move to expel MP Moira Deeming for attending anti-trans rally

An outspoken Victorian Liberal MP is set to be expelled from the party over her involvement in an anti-transgender rally attended by neo-Nazis.

Moira Deeming spoke at the "Let Women Speak" event held by British anti-trans activist Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull outside Victorian parliament on Saturday.

A group of neo-Nazis joined the anti-trans demonstrators and repeatedly performed the Nazi salute, sparking violent clashes as police kept counter protesters at bay.

Opposition leader John Pesutto said he met Ms Deeming on Sunday afternoon and discussed her involvement in organising, promoting and participating in a rally that had speakers and others publicly linked with far right-wing extremist groups, including neo-Nazi activists.

Mr Pesutto confirmed he would move a motion at the next party room meeting to expel her as a member of the parliamentary Liberal Party, declaring her position "untenable".

www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-19/victorian-liberals-move-to-expel-mp-who-attended-rally/102117788

The Australian media is so completely captured by the trans agenda it is a real concern. Everybody I tell about the QLD sef ID laws and the amendment to the gender discrimination act (thereby allowing biological males to claim discrimination if refused a job in previously protected female only job if they self id as a woman) are gobsmacked by the idea. Nobody is talking about this element of the changes to the law - only this "be kind" type of sentiment. Deeming is not someone I would vote for in a month of Sundays but she has been so completely shafted by the Liberal Party leader as they are such a minority in Victoria after the last election I suspect they think they really cant afford anymore bad press. However, she was preselected on that exact platform. I cant fathom the whiplash that Pesutto and his minions must be experiencing right now. I think Deeming has big things in her future as an Independent and if she moves to the uppper house then I might be persuaded to vote for her!

Longdarkteatimeofthesoul- I will vote for her, too.

I think she is in the upper house?

She's being treated appallingly.

I hope this demonstrates to some of the WPUK types how challenging things are for women in Australia (and the US where they have also been blind to the different situation).

@Helleofabore lol 😀

Pepvixen - you are correct sorry!

I'm not rich by any means, but if Moira Deeming wants to sue for defamation I'd be happy to chip in.

Me too, I would support that action.

I would contribute too.

Yep me too!

Yep, me too.

As soon as it was reported the she ‘would be spoken too’ (chilling) I knew it wouldn’t be good news, and what a handy way to remind other women that we can only have what men will allow us.