1 in 585 trans women are currently incarcerated for sexual offences

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Thanks to the census data, we can now show that 1 in every 585 trans women and England and Wales are convicted sex offenders.

That compares to 1 in every 2500-3000 men and 1 in every 243000 women.

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So which is it? Are trans women inherently more dangerous than men that don't identify as trans, or are men pretending to me trans in order to offend?

The answer doesn't actually matter. The same solution fixes both issues.

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i tried to find an estimate for how many sex offenders are not currently incarcerated. This says 850,000 and that’s just pedophiles.

Blimey, I find that absolutely staggering.

That is a very good point -each offender committing only a single offence is unlikely.

However, on the other side of the scale I left out all the offences that are not reported, the ones that are reported but the police decline to record, and those that get all the way to conviction but are then given a non-custodial sentence. Which is likely to add up to quite a hefty proportion, altogether.

More details about the number crunching & how the results were arrived at.

When you include male sex offenders who were incarcerated in the female prison estate at the time (5 - presumably none with a GRC or they would be counted as women), the figures are worse: 1 in 522.

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This article was linked in the comments, I don't recall seeing it at the time.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/seven-sex-attacks-in-womens-jails-by-transgender-convicts-cx9m8zqpg

'Transgender prisoners are five times more likely to carry out sex attacks on inmates at women’s jails than other prisoners are, official figures show.

Male prisoners who were transferred to women’s jails during gender reassignment and women inmates who are transitioning committed seven of the 124 sex attacks recorded between 2010 and 2018. They occurred at HMP Low Newton in Co Durham, Foston Hall in Derbyshire, Peterborough, Bronzefield in Middlesex and New Hall, West Yorkshire.'

This is an ignorant and misinformed post.
Take a look at these replies saying things along the lines of 'this is unsurprising' - have you ever considered the fact that this mindset is what causes the incarceration of these women in the first place, because of this disgusting bias you have against trans women.
Even if some trans women are offenders, that is only the minority and by promoting shocking statistics like that you are stigmatising being transgender and placing the label of 'predator' on all transgender people.
Is it the fact that these people are trans which causes them to be predators, or the fact that they are predators in the first place? Because there is no correlation.

and trans women belong in our women only spaces. because they are women

The stats show why men, as a class, should be kept out of women's spaces. The offending stats for transwomen as a class are 5 times worse. What more evidence do you need that the excluded from women's spaces? Unless you think women don't matter...

How are they women?

How are they women?

It’s their ladybrains, of course! I sure do wish someone would explain why men with ladybrain are three orders of magnitude more likely to commit sexual offences than women, who also have ladybrains in this theology.

this mindset is what causes the incarceration of these women in the first place, because of this disgusting bias you have against trans women.

Wow, I didn’t know I could get people incarcerated by disliking them! (I actually thought that only worked for the sacred caste, and even they have to fill in a form and pull sad faces first.)

Can you explain how it works and I’ll start making my list?

Here you are pauline:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3348290-It-will-never-happen-resource-thread

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This is an ignorant and misinformed post.
Take a look at these replies saying things along the lines of 'this is unsurprising' - have you ever considered the fact that this mindset is what causes the incarceration of these men in the first place, because of this disgusting bias you have against men.
Even if some men are offenders, that is only the minority and by promoting shocking statistics like that you are stigmatising being male and placing the label of 'predator' on all men.
Is it the fact that these people are male which causes them to be predators, or the fact that they are predators in the first place? Because there is no correlation.

As far as I can gather, it's because us women are horrible to them - presumably that causes the ladybrain to malfunction.

As usual, the TRAs use words as though they mean what they want them to mean, and not what they actually mean.

That was in response to Because there is no correlation.

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Even if some trans women are offenders, that is only the minority and by promoting shocking statistics like that you are stigmatising being transgender and placing the label of 'predator' on all transgender people.

Is it the fact that these people are trans which causes them to be predators, or the fact that they are predators in the first place? Because there is no correlation.

Only a minority of men are offenders, but 98% of crime is committed by men. To state this fact is not stigmatising all men. Do you really expect women not to mention, say, that men rape - for fear of hurting the reputations of all those men who don’t?

Men who feel they are women are still men, in spite of their feminine identities. Some of them are criminals.

Hi there i have made a detailed study of MOJ transgender statistics & using the 48,000 transwomen forgets* the160,000 sex non specified 166,000 out of 262,000 "nonbinaries".
I dont want to upset you but this is WRONGamong the academic engineering community we call this GIGO.
I have spent ALL day explaining to ONS that their good intentions have generated (in those who have not read the definitions carefully this total OVER-estimate. 48,000 does NOT include the vast number of male "sex unspecified" but here is a table of the correctly crunched data. For sex segregated spaces we only need to show HIGHER sexual offending & violence than the
FEMALE population.
The actual calculation shows that it is about the SAME as MALE sexual offending, that is enough for sex segregation. OVER-stating the rate does real harm to the cause of sex segregation. I am always available to help you CHECK YOUR FACTS.
I have spent 5 years studying these facts in DETAIL, I have fois for tg sexual offenders...and am just about to produce an academic paper that will NAIL this good and all, IF anyone takes the trouble to apply GCSE level Maths.
PLEASE dont circulate this number i am a mathematical analyst it is definitely WRONG.

Nope. No they are not, the trans bit gives it away. If they were women they'd just be called women. But they are called transwomen. Which means they are men.

I don’t know about you but personally I’m totally prepared to take the word of someone who posts an incoherent unstructured post with random capitalised words that women perpetuate sex offences at the same rate as men

oh wait! I’m 100% not!

You saved me having to write it

Do you actually understand the assessment of risk for safeguarding relies on statistics such as this?

I tell you what, how about you stop your hyperbole of saying anyone is saying ‘all are like this’ and address the actual issue. Or would you like to go back to believing that there is no issue so you feel better?

The numbers are based off prison records. It is highly likely the numbers are higher, just like the number of male sex offenders is higher due to the incredibly poor rate of convictions.

But do crack on trying to shame people for discussing the official statistics. Why don’t you instead tell these males to stop committing sex offences in the first place?

Maybe start a campaign educating them to not abuse, assault or rape anyone. and while you are at it, educated them to stop threatening women and trying to silence women as well.

That would be progress

They are female single sex spaces. For females. Not males.

How are males ever females?

You seem confused or just repeating tired old trope now.

I was wondering if you were going to do the number crunching Clare.

Are you going to put your workings up on your site? I would like to see more of your analysis.