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Standing for women - Portland rally cancelled over violent threats

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ArabellaScott · 26/10/2022 13:59

Not quite sure what's happened - seems there were credible threats to women's lives over these protests.

twitter.com/StandingforXX

Now it seems a few women went ahead and met up and were attacked. (Nobody seriously hurt as far as I can tell)

twitter.com/ReduxxMag/status/1585012546766966784

Hoping everyone is safe and well.

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Helleofabore · 31/10/2022 23:33

livvyposts · 31/10/2022 23:19

Peter Tatchell is a prominent trans rights activist. Why does it matter when he said those things?

Peter Tatchell is a prominent gay rights activist who occassionally supports trans people. If you think his comments mean the gay rights movement supports paedophilia then why not come out and say it.

Shall we discuss Breslow and Walker?

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 31/10/2022 23:39

The other woman who was spat on has come forward.

^Here I am at the Tacoma event getting spit on.
I am very clearly backing away calmly, retreating as the protesters menace us forward. The woman in the striped hat comes forward and spits directly at me.^

link

Discovereads · 01/11/2022 00:29

livvyposts · 31/10/2022 18:28

I've been trying to keep up with what's happening in the States on PP's tour and keep finding myself wondering what the purpose of it is/was?

She's probably done trans people a favour in the US at least. Lots of 'progressives' as I believe they call themselves over there have been confused about what is taking place regarding trans issues in the UK and these events have really shown how comfortable the gender critical movement are co-operating with the far right. Pics of Kellie Jay with Proud Boys members and using security firms linked to right wing militias are things that are a big deal over there. The far right are a much bigger threat than they are in the UK and no-one on the left or who considers themselves a liberal would condone or defend these kinds of links. And that's before you get to the 'terfs mace kids' chants that are now likely to be a staple of any counter protests to anti-trans demos.

These kind of stunts don't work in an environment where people carry weapons and are prepared to use serious and even deadly violence. They don't work in states that are on the brink of far right coups. It's not some big middle class media game over there, the lives of women, LGBTQ people, people of colour and left wing activists are at serious risk. She's completely out of her depth and has only succeeded in entrenching beliefs that the gender critical movement is if not far right itself then more than happy to co-operate with the far right. As probably now the best known gender critical activist from the UK in the US she's picked a side for the gender critical movement and it's not one most decent people want to go anywhere near.

👏👏👏👏👏
Voice of reason. I see the usual G-crew are out showcasing their stupendous ignorance of US laws, culture and politics. They’re also pretty desperate to defend KJK. You’d think she’d have realised that a British woman coming to a former colony with a heavily armed militia at her back to protest how the US is would be just a little bit unwelcome there. She’s a blonde Britannia, a modern day symbol of the imperial oppression that the US suffered under British rule. They weren’t granted independence after a vote by a benevolent monarch like the majority of the former colonies were…they fought two full blown wars for their independence.

KJK is out of her depth entirely and seems oblivious to how tone deaf her whole “US tour” is.

Her whole trip is a complete fiasco for her, and I couldn’t be more pleased really because she’s no feminist, she’s a right wing handmaiden masquerading as one.

The protest where only 30 people showed up for SFW in Tacoma was a pathetic turnout. It also had 200 counter protesters in opposition to them. That’s probably why she slunk off early and cancelled Portland.

Datun · 01/11/2022 00:48

Discovereads

Do you realise that you come across as utterly obsessed with Posie? There's a bubbling resentment that just gives off vibes that it's personal. Is it her hair?

Helleofabore · 01/11/2022 00:56

She’s a blonde Britannia, a modern day symbol of the imperial oppression that the US suffered under British rule.

Fuck. That is funny!!!

actually your whole post was hilarious disovereads .

Thanks for the laugh.

Discovereads · 01/11/2022 00:57

Datun · 01/11/2022 00:48

Discovereads

Do you realise that you come across as utterly obsessed with Posie? There's a bubbling resentment that just gives off vibes that it's personal. Is it her hair?

@Datun
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This is what obsession with KJK looks like:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4663088-kellie-jay-keen-aka-posie-parker-appreciation-thread
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Girlsontour · 01/11/2022 01:07

I live in the USA I support KJK 100% and frankly most people have no idea she is here but the idea that a woman speaking up for women and girls alongside American women will be rejected is nonsense. A lot of pushback against the trans agenda is building ever since it became clear that they are zeroing in on kids. These people don’t understand mothers (and fathers) and how furious a lot of them are getting stateside. We’ll soon see how they all think with the midterms almost upon us. My household has already voted by mail. I am going to guess that the Democrats will get a rude awakening at how very unpopular this attempted break from reality (Gender Ideology) is.

People are inclined to believe their eyes whatever the Biden administration and all the captured institutions want to tell us. You can’t wheel out men on TV and tell the country they’re women. Nope. It’s a big NO.

BayArea · 01/11/2022 01:08

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Datun · 01/11/2022 01:16

Discovereads · 01/11/2022 00:57

@Datun
🤣🤣
This is what obsession with KJK looks like:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4663088-kellie-jay-keen-aka-posie-parker-appreciation-thread
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Crikey, maybe you really don't realise how you come across.
^^
Threads like that are because we agree with what she's doing and saying. It's supportive of her campaign goals. She's helping. It's the content of what she's doing, and her bravery in doing it. She's making people aware of everything we're talking about on this board.

People banging on about her hair, nails, domesticity, poring over her background to find people whose opinions you disagree with, is personal obsession.

Who does that? Seriously. It's resentment over a woman who has nothing to do with you.

Datun · 01/11/2022 01:18

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Both those threads are by people on your side of the fence who disagree with her.

Discovereads · 01/11/2022 01:31

Datun · 01/11/2022 01:16

Crikey, maybe you really don't realise how you come across.
^^
Threads like that are because we agree with what she's doing and saying. It's supportive of her campaign goals. She's helping. It's the content of what she's doing, and her bravery in doing it. She's making people aware of everything we're talking about on this board.

People banging on about her hair, nails, domesticity, poring over her background to find people whose opinions you disagree with, is personal obsession.

Who does that? Seriously. It's resentment over a woman who has nothing to do with you.

Threads like that are because we agree with what she's doing and saying.* Yeah, you’re all so obsessed you start multiple threads about her constantly. Threads tracking her every movement. Threads lamenting how she got banned from MN and trying to campaign to get her reinstated on here. Threads discussing how she is upset with a Waitrose delivery driver. Threads purely to express how much you love her 😍and how brave 🤩 you think she is and all the good 😇 she is doing.

Who does that? Seriously. It's adoration over and blind devotion to a woman who has nothing to do with you.

Me occasionally popping in on your super fan club feed of constant threads and bursting your bubble isn’t obsession, it’s an interruption of your obsession.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 01/11/2022 01:47

Sincerely and most genuinely, thank you for that post, discovereads.

I'm going to go to sleep giggling over the idea of KJK dressed up in a Lady Britannia costume.

You know she isn't shipping over British redcoats, right? She's engaging locals to act as security.

Discovereads · 01/11/2022 01:50

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Yep, and guess who is on 3 of the 4 threads about KJK? @datun who seems to me posting on 1 of the 4 threads= obsession 🤔

Discovereads · 01/11/2022 01:58

@PurgatoryOfPotholes
You know she isn't shipping over British redcoats, right? She's engaging locals to act as security.

So? Oh, wait, you don’t know history do you? You must think that only British redcoats fought for the British during the US War of Independence and War of 1812. If you did know history you wouldn’t have written such an ignorant comment.

IcakethereforeIam · 01/11/2022 02:04

@Discovereads that post is beneath you, @PurgatoryOfPotholes was being flippant not writing a dissertation.

I'm off to bed now...definitely.

BeyondsEnergyObsession · 01/11/2022 02:42

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What I find interesting in your screenshot, is the links that have been opened and are a different colour 🤔

Needmoresleep · 01/11/2022 03:57

So? Oh, wait, you don’t know history do you? You must think that only British redcoats fought for the British during the US War of Independence and War of 1812.

Duh…it is late. I read it as importing Butlins Redcoats from Britain to use as security. Though possibly more politically acceptable to our friends, probably less effective against threats of violence.

Why is the focus on the security. Surely the focus and condemnation should be on those making the threats.

Asdavaluesausage · 01/11/2022 05:03

@Discovereads the day you’re the voice of reason is the day Satan ice skates to work.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 01/11/2022 07:09

IcakethereforeIam · 01/11/2022 02:04

@Discovereads that post is beneath you, @PurgatoryOfPotholes was being flippant not writing a dissertation.

I'm off to bed now...definitely.

Perhaps discover lay down to type it? Grin

Standing for women - Portland rally cancelled over violent threats
PurgatoryOfPotholes · 01/11/2022 07:25

BeyondsEnergyObsession · 01/11/2022 02:42

What I find interesting in your screenshot, is the links that have been opened and are a different colour 🤔

Well now. How interesting...

Good spot, Beyond!

AlisonDonut · 01/11/2022 07:27

BeyondsEnergyObsession · 01/11/2022 02:42

What I find interesting in your screenshot, is the links that have been opened and are a different colour 🤔

I can't see the screentshot but I'm going to hazard a guess that they have only opened ones relating to KJK?

Every accusation is a confession as they say.

NecessaryScene · 01/11/2022 07:30

I can't see the screentshot but I'm going to hazard a guess that they have only opened ones relating to KJK?

Yep, 7 links in shot, 4 about KJK all read, but no interest in "Some light relief in sport", "Marks & Spencer" or "KPSS and the vital work they do".

AlisonDonut · 01/11/2022 07:32

NecessaryScene · 01/11/2022 07:30

I can't see the screentshot but I'm going to hazard a guess that they have only opened ones relating to KJK?

Yep, 7 links in shot, 4 about KJK all read, but no interest in "Some light relief in sport", "Marks & Spencer" or "KPSS and the vital work they do".

Well blow me down with a feather...I'm shook.

Helleofabore · 01/11/2022 08:57

What a night!!

Readers will certainly have seen some really interesting dynamics on this thread.

Yet another poster who dismisses violence against women. Who tries to keep the attention on a 14 year old who claimed to be sprayed and yet there is no evidence that they were sprayed by women who attended to speak. But trying to keep the focus there means less discussion about the actual violence experienced by those women who spoke or the women who supported those who spoke.

Of which there is video evidence.

That same poster is one who has thrown around many assertions about ‘who Kellie Jay is aligned with’, YET, immediately tried ineffectively to distance trans people from Peter Tatchell!

So, can dish out the ‘alignment’ crap but cannot accept that it works both ways. And Peter Tatchell is confirmed as a trans spokesperson because they appear on panels as a trans spokesperson and a Stonewall senior spokesperson and I don’t see any person discrediting that connection from the perspective of this poster.

The another poster came along with further ad hom attacks that are so ridiculous that if we didn’t know better, we would think of was a spoof.

What is immediately apparent is that too many posters are trying to defend those protester’s (those against the women speaking about their needs) violent actions, or distract people from them.

And that includes the video footage from that group themselves that they have posted which clearly shows they have no concept that following those women continuing the yelling and abuse (levied at a lesbian!), including April with her injuries, is about making sure those women feel they cannot get away. That is crossing into sinister behaviour when you look at the motivation. And it has not once been acknowledged as so.

There are too many posters on this thread dismissing violence against women. It is 2022, yet here we are.

And let’s not forget that one of the earlier posters also had recently asked what was dehumanising about calling people ‘the GCs’ or the just as disconnecting from being humans, ‘GCs’ - just like on this board we don’t call trans people the ‘transes’ for the same reason.

It goes hand in hand to call a group dehumanising terms to dismissing violence against them because they have been dehumanised.

Thanks to those posters though. It has been an informative live demonstration.

ArabellaScott · 01/11/2022 09:14

Helleofabore · 01/11/2022 00:56

She’s a blonde Britannia, a modern day symbol of the imperial oppression that the US suffered under British rule.

Fuck. That is funny!!!

actually your whole post was hilarious disovereads .

Thanks for the laugh.

There's an opportunity to get Amyl Nitrate out.

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