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Standing for women - Portland rally cancelled over violent threats

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ArabellaScott · 26/10/2022 13:59

Not quite sure what's happened - seems there were credible threats to women's lives over these protests.

twitter.com/StandingforXX

Now it seems a few women went ahead and met up and were attacked. (Nobody seriously hurt as far as I can tell)

twitter.com/ReduxxMag/status/1585012546766966784

Hoping everyone is safe and well.

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PurgatoryOfPotholes · 26/10/2022 18:54

*in defiance of all rational thought

Helleofabore · 26/10/2022 18:57

I think we can safely agree that no one discussing the rights for any group should be subject to threats and any violence.

These women are very brave!

Amarette · 26/10/2022 19:01

I would love to hear @MargaritaPie agree that.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 26/10/2022 19:08

Helleofabore · 26/10/2022 18:57

I think we can safely agree that no one discussing the rights for any group should be subject to threats and any violence.

These women are very brave!

Even if they have parking tickets, have been blacklisted by the National Tiddlywinks Association, or have been suspended from a popular micro-blogging site.

Disydoll12 · 26/10/2022 20:12

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Igmum · 26/10/2022 20:15

Appalling violence but what brave women. There are good people standing up for women and children all around the world.

LangClegsInSpace · 26/10/2022 20:37

@Delphinium20 She put up a video about her decision to cancel. She said antifa were planning something big and the police had told her they would not be providing protection. So I think it was the right decision to cancel for her own safety and the safety of attendees.

The women who turned up anyway are incredibly brave and they've done a huge thing in highlighting the male violence that has shut down this event.

KJK is doing a tour, several locations around the country. I think she's already done one event in SF. On the video she was discussing doing something creative in Portland that would be safer than a Let Women Speak event.

It wouldn't work to keep the location completely secret because the aim is to platform lots of women, so women need to know where to turn up.

ArabellaScott · 26/10/2022 20:49

nilsmousehammer · 26/10/2022 18:23

Bloody hell.

'violent threats and fear for women'

TRA - squirrel squirrel squirrel!

Can't you scrape up ONE normal conscience anywhere between the lot of you?

It's wild, isn't it?

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GrinitchSpinach · 26/10/2022 21:22

Tacoma (near Seattle) livestream now:

Hoping all the women stay safe.

ArabellaScott · 26/10/2022 21:27

Lierre Keith speaking, excellent. Thanks for sharing, Grinitch.

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Justme56 · 26/10/2022 21:35

I was reading up on Portland and apparently they have some really antiquated form of governance. Basically the Mayor and 4 others look after it all (it is currently changing). They also defunded the police (in one area - at least). It’s been overturned but they are struggling to recruit, which I think is a big part of the problem. From what I remember there were something like 20+ murders 3 years ago and around 90 last year. This year it’s already over 80. Have a big problem with homeless too. Glad KJK gave it a miss.

GrinitchSpinach · 26/10/2022 21:45

ArabellaScott · 26/10/2022 21:27

Lierre Keith speaking, excellent. Thanks for sharing, Grinitch.

You're very welcome! Lierre is brilliant.

F0JN I think it's only a matter of time before either a deranged TRA or Antifa member kills a woman standing up for her rights...It's hard to believe I'm typing that with such a sense of resignation to the inevitability of that outcome in 2022.

I attended WDI USA's conference last month, and one of the most sobering moments was when Lierre spoke about (I am paraphrasing here) her certainty that a woman would be killed or seriously injured soon, and that in the face of that risk we must still show up to speak about our rights and lay bare the violence behind the male privilege movements.

That is the kind of courage she, Kara Dansky, and other US women are displaying by advocating for women in public in a country where violent men have pretty much a blank check to carry firearms.

GrinitchSpinach · 26/10/2022 22:04

At 17:42 in the video, a person rushes Lierre. Amy Sousa and a man I don’t recognize prevent the person from attacking her.

I am catching up on the feed as other duties called earlier.

Asdavaluesausage · 26/10/2022 22:15

MargaritaPie · 26/10/2022 15:40

Does that first account belong to Kelly Jay Keen? Hasn't she been permanently banned from Twitter before? Twitter doesn't permit banned users to make new accounts.

Graham Linehan is back on Twitter too after being perma-banned and posts a lot of diatribes about transpeople, but noone is taking his posts seriously. He used to write jokes but now he is the joke.

So @marg you’re ok with men threatening women? Why do you think it’s ok for men to threaten and attack women for having opinions?

Delphinium20 · 26/10/2022 22:44

LangClegsInSpace · 26/10/2022 20:37

@Delphinium20 She put up a video about her decision to cancel. She said antifa were planning something big and the police had told her they would not be providing protection. So I think it was the right decision to cancel for her own safety and the safety of attendees.

The women who turned up anyway are incredibly brave and they've done a huge thing in highlighting the male violence that has shut down this event.

KJK is doing a tour, several locations around the country. I think she's already done one event in SF. On the video she was discussing doing something creative in Portland that would be safer than a Let Women Speak event.

It wouldn't work to keep the location completely secret because the aim is to platform lots of women, so women need to know where to turn up.

Very smart move, that's good to hear. There are times when we won't go out for a walk anymore because of how things have changed where I live. Being targeted rather than fearing random violence must be much more frightening. Guns are everywhere as well. Having an idiot teen in a balaclava mask who calls himself antifa rushing the podium is probably the least of my worries for KJK as there are people with guns who can do much swifter damage. Some of them purposely try to cause divisions to push their extreme views www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-man-boogaloo-movement-pleads-guilty-firing-police-station-floyd-rcna2499. Many are not antifa (which is a much looser confederation of dunces), some are far more organized, like the men who conspired to kill a female Governor are paramilitary groups). www.npr.org/2022/10/26/1131607112/michigan-governor-gretchen-whitmer-kidnapping-convictions

It's a mess, frankly, and the police are overtasked. In some cases, the police are complicit.

Delphinium20 · 26/10/2022 22:45

So, @MargaritaPie , come to the US and see why women are afraid.

ArabellaScott · 26/10/2022 22:57

Such brave women speaking. It looked like a hostile and intimidating crowd. And glad Lierre was unharmed.

Fuck this shit, honestly. I still find it staggering that women can't meet and talk in public about their rights without violent threats. In 2022.

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Chillisquid · 26/10/2022 23:31

Those chants remind me of doe ram me.
From Babe, maybe I'm bias but I don't know what they're saying so my brain tells me that, must have watched that lovely film one too many times, the fact those people are just absolute sheep probably adds something to the effect.
Plus Posie is a complete babe of course and we know what's partly why they hate her so much.
I stand with kjk.

deepwatersolo · 27/10/2022 00:45

As if knives or pepper spray or silenced women could change material reality aka biological sex.

Obviously, this misogynist movement is very dangerous for women, but at the same time this absurd petulance is utterly ridiculous.

Delphinium20 · 27/10/2022 01:01

I was thinking on this again, that it's maddening how women standing up and speaking for themselves is met with violence. Iran is the most obvious current example. Who does it harm to have women not wear a scarf? I just can't. Why can't KJK say, "Women are adult human females."

And abortion...US midterms are coming up in a few days and I fear other states may succumb to losing this basic health care right. Women will die. Girls will be forced to carry their rapist's children to term. I feel like screaming.

MargaritaPie · 27/10/2022 02:29

GrinitchSpinach · 26/10/2022 16:34

Thanks for your concern for the women assaulted on camera, though, Margarita.

The gender critical woman who was struck by a cream pie? My deepest condolences.

Word on Twitter is KJK set up beside a school and the students came out the building to call her out on her hate. Further proof perhaps that the younger generation are more tolerant of transpeople than the older gen.

KJK then asked the principal to "make the kids go back inside". But wait, isn't that "cancelling" them? If KJK can have her say then so should everyone else, right?

Any comment?

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Girlsontour · 27/10/2022 06:25

Margy Free Speech and Free Assembly are protected under our constitution here in the USA. I am amazed you think a woman shouldn't speak near a school (probably was the Uni there) as if that's offensive. What's offensive is expecting women to lie about biological material fact or face rape and death threats.

We aren't gonna lie. No matter how much $$$$ is behind the marketing push for Gender Ideology by a couple of billionaires, the American public isn't buying it. I don't know anyone who doesn't think Biden is an old fool and is against giving puberty blockers, hormones and surgery to children identifying as trans. A lot of parents are getting upset and irate.

nilsmousehammer · 27/10/2022 08:59

This is reaching the point of really quite disgusting support for violence.

You're fine with credible threats to people's lives because they were in the wrong place saying something you don't agree with. And anyway, instead of actually being shot or killed, they got things thrown at them that were less than bricks so that's all right.

Bloody hell. Just when I think I've started to plumb the sociopathy of it all it staggers me all over again.

Can you imagine the screams and howls and moral outrage if someone threw a cotton wool ball at a TQ+ activist? You'd hear it on mars. Lundy Bancroft names this kind of double standards of treatment as the hallmark of an abusive relationship by a toxic party with serious issues with relationships and typical emotional and social capacity. Its starting to ring quite a lot of bells.

ArabellaScott · 27/10/2022 09:35

Delphinium20 · 27/10/2022 01:01

I was thinking on this again, that it's maddening how women standing up and speaking for themselves is met with violence. Iran is the most obvious current example. Who does it harm to have women not wear a scarf? I just can't. Why can't KJK say, "Women are adult human females."

And abortion...US midterms are coming up in a few days and I fear other states may succumb to losing this basic health care right. Women will die. Girls will be forced to carry their rapist's children to term. I feel like screaming.

Yes, it's unbearable. And the suffering of women is met with such staggeringly callous indifference.

But we have sisterhood. xxx

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